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Apple Revises eMac

RadRafe writes "Today Apple revised the eMac. It now sports a 1.25 GHz G4 processor, DDR RAM, and Radeon 9200 graphics. The Combo Drive model has twice as much RAM as before, and the SuperDrive model now costs just a grand. This is the first consumer Mac update in five months."

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  1. Re:Worth buying? by Visigothe · · Score: 4, Informative

    The eMac is a good machine. the proc is fast enough to do most things [web, mail, WP, digital camera editing, mp3 ripping, etc.]. A few things to be aware of. The eMac is much larger than you think it is. Unlike the original iMac, the eMac doesn't have a handle, and the 17" monitor makes it rather awkward to pick up and move around.

    And yes, you'll want to up the RAM to as much as you can afford [OSX likes to use RAM as cache].

    Enjoy!

  2. Re:Really how fast is this 1.25GHz machine by amichalo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Anyone know this machine with the 1.25 GHz G4 processor fares against the new Intel 3.2Ghz processor with 1Gb RAM?

    The 1.25Ghz G4 fares extremely well - It costs a lot less!

    While the P4 3.2 costs between $300 and $400 just fo rthe chip, this $800 unit includes the 1.25 G4, Combo drive, 40GB hd, 256K Ram, CRT built in custom housing, video, networking, USB 2, Firewire800, Airport Extreme upgrade path, Bluetooth upgrade path, OS X Jaguar, iLife (Garageband, iMovie, iDVD, iPhoto, iTunes) and the cache of owning an Apple.

    You can check out this review of the 1.25 Ghz G4 when it first came out and this review of the P4 3.2Ghz vs. an Athlon

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  3. Re:The first ever "bargain" Mac by Llywelyn · · Score: 3, Informative

    >It is a Jaguar system

    Panther, actually.

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  4. Re:So I'm stupid... by amichalo · · Score: 4, Informative

    'e' stands for 'education'.

    Apple released the eMac as a more durable, less expensive alternative to the LCD iMac. Schools wanted it.

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  5. Re:Worth buying? by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 4, Informative


    Get the stand for the eMac, if you do buy one; I think they're about $60, and it really makes re-positioning the eMac a lot easier. W/o, the eMac is just so much of a 70# boat anchor.

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  6. Re:The first ever "bargain" Mac by PretzelBat · · Score: 3, Informative

    My parents have bought two computers from Costco, and had nary a problem with them. (Well, except for the usually MS virus/worm/insecurity nastiness, which I had to deal with for them.)

    Although personal experience doesn't negate your point, this: " I understand Costco has a kick ass return policy" is very true.

    I believe it is ONE YEAR (!!!) with NO restock fee! If it was me, I'd want it to break after 9 months (and if the proc is going to fail, it's likely to happen in the first year).

    For a cheap computer like this one, I'd be willing to save the $200 dollars by buying at Costco.

    *Your milage may vary*

  7. The cache of owning an Apple? by GrahamCox · · Score: 4, Informative

    Cache = store, etc. I think you might mean cachet. That's pronounced "kash-ay" for you Americans that don't speak foreign.

  8. Nice little system by hattig · · Score: 5, Informative

    At last a reasonably priced Apple computer. And the international prices don't have the standard 50% Apple International tax, they are reasonably close to the US prices after currency conversion!

    For a laugh earlier I configured a system on Dells site with similar features. This was a 2.6GHz Celeron 2400C system. It came out higher priced than the eMac (eMac 549, Dell 580) for as close a match of specification as possible (and I made sure that warranties, etc, were minimal on the Dell, I'm not an Apple owner so I won't cheat like that!). Certainly not a bad deal in my opinion, especially with iLife and Panther included (after a year of using XP, I realise how much I loathe it). The Dell looked like a turd as well, if that matters to you! :)

    1. Re:Nice little system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
      At last"? The eMac's been available for years. This is a speed bump, nothing more.

      It's a bit more than just a processor speed bump. Yes, the G4 now runs at 1.25GHz instead of 1GHz. It also runs on a 167MHz FSB (instead of 133MHz), and also has 512K of L2 cache (instead of 256KB). The memory subsystem is now DDR333 based instead of PC133 SDR. The graphics chip is now a Radeon 9200 instead of a Radeon 7500. The USB ports are now USB 2 compliant instead of 1.1. The SuperDrive is now 8x instead of 2x. It also ships standard with 256MB of RAM instead of 128MB. And the price has been reduced.

      So apart from the CPU speed, CPU cache, front side bus speed, memory subsystem, graphics subsystem, I/O ports, optical drive, standard memory and the price, yes...you are right. Not much else has changed.

  9. Re:Worth buying? by Huge+Pi+Removal · · Score: 4, Informative

    FYI, the eMac is slightly shorter front-to-back than a CRT iMac :)

    It is, however, wider, higher, heavier, and a pain to move around. Good machines though, and the CRT is flat which makes it pleasant to work at.

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  10. Re:Worth buying? by Graymalkin · · Score: 4, Informative

    The eMac uses about as much power (ie produces as much heat) as a similarly sized CRT monitor. So for the heat output of a nice size monitor you get a whole computer. Even if you've got a flat panel display it is going to be driven by a little space heater under the desk. While an LCD is definitely going to be smaller than an eMac the overall power savings aren't too impressive. If you want a system that won't heat up a room or take up a bunch of space get a Powerbook. My 12" PB uses as much power as a small light bulb and has a really crisp screen.

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  11. Not quite. by RadRafe · · Score: 5, Informative
    If Apple had used Linux for the base system, they would have been forced to be part of the community and give full value in return instead of getting away with dropping a bone here and there.
    Sigh. In the process of turning OPENSTEP into Mac OS X, why in the name of salted peanuts should Avie and his team have ripped everything out and started again with Linux? Or do you not even know the history of NextSTEP?

    Besides, what source doesn't Apple share already, that a GNU license would force them to? Darwin is totally open. You can download the source here.

  12. Re:Depends on your philosophy, doesn't it by MadChicken · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yes, OS X (10.3 at least) is a very, very good operating system -- I own an iBook G4 -- but only if you agree with the design philosophy. OS X was designed for completely different people who want to do completely different things with computers than, say, Linux users.

    Uh. I run PostgreSQL and Apache on my eMac, as well as an IMAP server. Same thing I would do if this was a Linux box. I keep a terminal in my dock. GIMP is there too.

    There's tons of choice in OS X. Install Fink and pretend it's a Linux box.

    There is a difference though, I can do (almost) all of my Linux stuff PLUS have iTunes and GarageBand -- Ardour+LADSPA+Jack-rack+Hydrogen are amusing but horrible hacks in comparison.

    Oh yeah and I can't run Wine. Is that a bad thing? :)

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  13. Re:The first ever "bargain" Mac by Lebooge · · Score: 4, Informative

    Another thing for people to keep in mind is that this is the 'e'Mac.... as in educational. This box is not designed for power users or even 'prosumer' high-end home users. It's designed to be a relatively cheap computer that Apple can sell in bulk to school districts.