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Amazon's Search Engine Goes Live

fjordboy writes "John Battelle has posted a discussion and review of Amazon's new search engine: a9.com. From the article:"What makes this particularly noteworthy is that A9 is built quite literally on top of Google. In short, Amazon has taken the best of Google, and made it, to my mind, a lot better. Sound familiar? Yup, it's what Google did to Yahoo, Yahoo to Netscape...you get the picture." "

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  1. Oh that's real nice... by bigHairyDog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's a search history viewable to the user. So just when various senators, the EFF and half of /. were getting uppety about Gmail's ability to connect a name with a search history, Amazon do the exactly the same.

    In fact, they go one step further - with Google's email you can always lie about your detals, but with Amazon's history feature you can't - it's tied to your Amazon account, credit card and all.

    Of course, I Have Nothing To Hide, but I still think that comapnies shouldn't put themselves in a position where they have a load of juicy data that the police only need a warrant to get at.

    It would have been smart for Amazon to keep this feature offline for a few weeks to get a better idea of how well google deals with the criticism.

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  2. actually looks really good by untermensch · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I hate to say it, but the site looks really slick. The search history, site info, diary feature, book searching are all really clever ideas. But this takes the whole Google privcy debate to another level doesn't it.

    Color scheme kind of turns me of tho'

  3. Search the text of some of Amazon's bookstore.. by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Amazon's "Inside the Book" search engine is a very interesting thing.

    If you only need to see a paragraph to know what you need to know, you have no reason left to pay for the rest of the book.

    However, most of the returns are from fiction books, so maybe you're better off just sticking with Google and saving this as a fallback only.

  4. It seems a bit lacking by outofpaper · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While they say that they might be better, there what looks to me like clutter.

    "Perfection is reached, not when there is no longer anything to
    add, but when there is no longer anything to take away."
    -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

    Google got this right.

  5. URL Short cuts - cool! by Psychic+Burrito · · Score: 2, Insightful
    From the a9 what's cool page:
    URL Short Cuts: At A9.com you can search directly from the browser URL box by typing: a9.com/query
    I think this is extremely cool. A short way to enter queries by even bypassing the home page completely. I suggested this to Google 3 years back, but they wouldn't hear. I hope they will implement this now in some form.
    1. Re:URL Short cuts - cool! by cwg_at_opc · · Score: 2, Insightful

      how is this different from the "Google" box
      provided at the top of Safari?

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  6. Re:Weird findings regarding IE by Cecil · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not really fishy.

    No one tells anyone to go "get IE". Everyone who can have IE already HAS IE, for better or for worse. No need to link to it. As a result, the pagerank of most "Download IE" sites (uh, Windows Update???) would be remarkably low compared to the number of people who link to Mozilla et al.

  7. Re:Weird findings regarding IE by Jahf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not really at all.

    1) The people most likely to search for "web browser" or anything related to IE's homepage are most likely looking at alternatives. Most folks looking for IE know that the first thing to do is type "www.microsoft.com" and go from there.

    2) Not very many people look for IE online in general ... it is "just there" and is updated through Windows Update. Related to #1, if they are having to research IE they are probably doing so in some form of technical aspect.

    3) Microsoft doesn't market IE as a "web browser" online, it is a Windows component and as such would have far different content indexed than that of any of the listed browsers.

    4) The search results you mention appear in almost the same order if you search for "web browser" on Google. Is that Fishy to you, too?

    5) There ARE things about A9 that seem fishy ... I agree with other posters who think storing search history is not something I want to see done ... but I don't think the results you mention are.

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  8. Privacy? by countach · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Does anybody really WANT Amazon to be storing our searches on their server forever and a day? Even the "edit history" feature apparently only allows you to "hide" old entries. This sux big time!! I guess it's a marketing ploy.

  9. Re:Tinfoil Hat Not Required by cybermancer · · Score: 4, Insightful
    A9 offers a generic tracking free interface for the paranoid type. Which is the one most everyone here will be using I am sure.

    generic.a9.com

    If you would prefer not to be recognized on our site, we recommend that you use our alternate service located at generic.A9.com. On generic.a9.com, we will not recognize your A9.com or Amazon.com cookie. Information we gather on generic.a9.com will not be used in our data analysis (other than to detect abuse) and will not be used to personalize the services we offer you.

    Of course if you disable the Amazon and A9 cookies then you loose the search inside and history "features", which is most of what A9 offers over Google.

    Disabling the tracking is a nice feature. Wish you could do that with Google. Sure, google doesn't tell you what your history is, but they know.

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  10. Re:lazy name selection by donutz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Something like that....but not quite.

    Amazon.com is 10 characters long...or A plus 9 more.

    A5.com (A + length(mazon) + .com) may have been their first choice but it's already taken.

  11. Re:I'll stick with Google, thanks. by LostCluster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not to mention, the account logon gets tied to Amazon.com's system... so they can use your search history of websearches via A9 to influence your Amazon homepages and e-mails...

  12. Re:Weird findings regarding IE by wfberg · · Score: 3, Insightful

    People who like IE and never consider an alternative just call it "the internet".

    "the internet" lists IE as the second hit, microsoft .com first.

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  13. Re:Reputation by zx2c4 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yah, that is a good point. I've been a google fan ever since I stoped using Yahoo mail (quite some time ago). I don't think that A9 will catch on. Hell - the term "google" has come to mean so much more than a search tool.

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  14. Re:Weird findings regarding IE by antic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's a pretty rough comparison, but I like it anyway. :)

    Offtopic: I wish Slashdot wouldn't run ads (such as the Dell one I'm seeing nearly every page load) that interferes with my typing of comments. I'm mid comment when it steals focus from the textarea. Not nice!

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  15. A Google Killer by Snowspinner · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The article seems to suggest A9 as a Google killer.

    Somehow, I don't think that the Google killer will license Google's search.

  16. Forget the bells and whistles- Does it Find Things by JabberWokky · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I just typed several esoteric subjects (i.e., not in the top 2% of search words), and it pulls results far worse than Google. Rocky Horror, several specific roleplaying terms, etc. The stuff that is really specific and Google is useful for locating on the web. I know the top sites for everything I entered, and they do not appear, or lousy geocities, vacant sites or 404s pop up while the high traffic or official sites do not appear. Meanwhile certain domains (imdb, owned by Amazon) seem to always be in the first few returns.

    It's still in beta, but so far it doesn't impress.

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  17. Amazon is just power hungry like the rest of them. by tcgwebs · · Score: 4, Insightful
    You do realize that when you run a search, your results are the same as what you would get at Google, but with that god-awful interface and Amazon ads? Don't mean to be a troll, but there's absolutely no compelling reason to use a9 over Google.

    Besides, Google's toolbar lets you save your recent searches anyway, that's nothing new, and it saves you the five seconds that it would take to type "google.com" or "a9.com/..." for you lazy people out there.

    The only reason Amazon did this is because they want more people to shop at Amazon and use their search engine (obviously). It's been tried a thousand times before. Google won the preference of millions because the ads aren't obtrusive and they weren't in the business to try to get you to shop somewhere, or join a pay service, or any of that crap that Yahoo and MSN does.

    I'd say Google wins. :)

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  18. Re:Also note... by Erik+Hollensbe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They redirect and try to trap you from backing out. How refreshing. One of the web page practices I most despise.

    Nice pun. :)

  19. Re:Tinfoil Hat Not Required by Grant_Watson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you've got nothing to hide...

    Why do I need to have something to hide in order to want privacy? Can't I simply desire to prevent others from gathering unnecessary information on me?

  20. Re:Nice touch by grahamsz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's superfluous tho!

    They should have just used the beta symbol on it's own or spell the english variant. It's like "IRC Chat" or "ATM Machine" or "LCD Display" or "CGPColinGregoryPalmernet"

    Some people...