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Wonkette and the Ethics of Online Journalism

Decaffeinated Jedi writes "The New York Times offers up a thought-provoking article ('First With the Scoop, if Not the Truth' - free reg. req.) on Ana Marie Cox, proprietor of the popular inside-the-beltway gossip blog Wonkette. Known for her site's 'gossipy, raunchy, potty-mouthed' coverage of Washington politics, site owner Nick Denton is quoted in the article as saying, 'I think it's implicit in the way that a Web site is produced that our standards of accuracy are lower. Besides, immediacy is more important than accuracy, and humor is more important than accuracy.' Needless to say, such a statement raises some interesting questions about the growing influence of blogs and other non-traditional online news sources. That being said, does the nature of the World Wide Web in fact give sites like Wonkette, Drudge, or even Slashdot a free pass on accuracy if it means the difference between getting the scoop or not?"

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  1. Ah, yes, the New York Times by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Because they've never had a problem with journalistic ethics.

  2. On Slashdot? by orthogonal · · Score: 3, Funny
    That being said, does the nature of the World Wide Web in fact give sites like Wonkette, Drudge, or even Slashdot a free pass on accuracy if it means the difference between getting the scoop or not?"

    Speaking only of Slashdot, I'll just say... so far.

    Although in the case of Slashdot, I think it's not so much about getting a scoop as posting a dupe


    I kid, I kid! In truth I love you all!

  3. Um..... by Finni · · Score: 4, Funny
    "or even Slashdot a free pass on accuracy"

    I'm not even sure where to start.

  4. No news is news by stanmann · · Score: 3, Funny

    Let's see, fired from her previous employer, spreading completely unsubstantiated rumor as fact, and talking nonsense in general...

    sounds like she's looking for a job at the Enquirer, Times or Star.

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  5. Re:How is it... by orthogonal · · Score: 2, Funny

    I could scoop ALL the major news sources just by making up crap stories featuring the right players

    Hey, man, I just wanted to say that I loved your informative scoop about Rob Malda, John Ashcroft and Colonel Mustard in the Library with the Rope.

    Who'dya have thunk that?

  6. food for trolls by theMerovingian · · Score: 2, Funny


    Besides, immediacy is more important than accuracy, and humor is more important than accuracy.'

    Thus, if you make a funny first post without reading the article, you will get +5 in seconds.

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  7. Re:Drudge is the first site I visit every day. by orthogonal · · Score: 4, Funny
    I always hit Drudge first thing when I log on in the morning. I don't necessarily trust everything he says or posts, but if something big happened, I know it will be there

    Yeah, Drudge has the big stuff, ever it it's not true.

    Like just this morning I went to Drudge and saw this posted:

    Sad news ... Stephen King, dead at 54

    I just heard some sad news on talk radio - Horror/Sci Fi writer Stephen King was found dead in his Maine home this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon.

    God, I was so upset until I went to Google news.
  8. Since when does by hackhound · · Score: 3, Funny

    the New York Times care about accuracy?

  9. Re:Wrong Question by w9ofa · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow, AC! What a great idea.
    If only we could convert "objectivity" to
    a numerical scale in an objective fashion.

    Oh wait.

  10. Ahh, the irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Slashdot's inaccurate summary about accuracy on the web.

  11. Pot Kettle? by Quila · · Score: 2, Funny

    The New York Times offers up a thought-provoking article ('First With the Scoop, if Not the Truth' -

    At first I thought the article was going to be about the NYT itself, but no, they're just pointing at others who don't have much less journalistic integrity than themselves.

  12. Re:Old media get a free pass as well... by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 4, Funny

    Someone considers The Today Show to be a news show?

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  13. Re:Old media get a free pass as well... by stanmann · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Today show, not the daily show.

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  14. Re:Old media get a free pass as well... by rabel · · Score: 2, Funny

    The point: Most readers will trade off accuracy for someone who's openly in their philosophical or political corner.

    Ummm... Does The Daily Show count?

  15. I read Wonkette by TheRoss · · Score: 2, Funny

    Because it's pretty funny--

    Of course, it probably should have a more explicit and obvious disclaimer. I've always been a big fan of the one at the bottom of appleturns.com:

    """
    DISCLAIMER: AtAT is not a news site any more than "Inside Edition" is a "real" news show. We make "Dawson's Creek" look like "60 Minutes." We engage in rampant guesswork, wild speculation, and pure fabrication for the entertainment of our viewers. Sure, everything here is "inspired by actual events," but so was "Amityville II: The Possession." So lighten up.
    """

  16. Re:Plenty of bad journalists in all media... by Xenographic · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just think if the NY Times had a policy of publishing every letter sent to the editor. Now that will keep you honest.

    Not the trolls, though, I should hope...

    The thought of opening a newspaper, only to find a picture of the Goatse man on the oppinion page just sent a chill down my spine. Ugh!

  17. eh? by Thud457 · · Score: 2, Funny
    artist of the week

    It's the tradition of your forefathers, boy. Don't sweep it under the rug.

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  18. Re:Slashthink by admiralh · · Score: 3, Funny

    That happened a long time ago.

    We called it "Junior High School".

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  19. Re:Groupthink in general terms by carlos_benj · · Score: 2, Funny

    There are ways to tell people that they are wong without saying, "Hey, Nimrod, your being dumb!".

    Y'mean like this?

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  20. Forget Wonkette, how about slashdot postings? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Known for her site's 'gossipy, raunchy, potty-mouthed' coverage of Washington politics, site owner Nick Denton is quoted in the article as saying, 'I think it's implicit in the way that a Web site is produced that our standards of accuracy are lower.
    ...so from this sentence we may infer that Nick Denton is a she?

    Is there a story moderation like "-1, crappy grammar"?

  21. Especially if she talks about Ass-Fucking! by ccmay · · Score: 2, Funny
    The nerdy guys who dominate the online world are absolute suckers for any woman who will talk about sex.

    This is particularly true if she is willing to talk in frank terms about ass-fucking. And Wonkette certainly is. In fact, for some reason it's so important to her that she capitalizes it as 'Ass-Fucking' every time.

    -ccm

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