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MP3.com Archive Not Lost (1.7 Million Songs Saved)
macdaddypunk writes "We all remember last December's grim news: MP3.com closed its doors, warning thousands of musicians that 'all your content will be deleted from our servers.' However, as the Wall Street Journal reports today, most of the original MP3.com archive was never deleted! Two companies, GarageBand and Trusonic, claiming to have a legitimate copy of the archive, are now enabling former MP3.com artists to visit www.MP3isBack.com and recover their MP3.com music, instantly re-generating their artist pages with just a few clicks. Trusonic, itself a Vivendi spin-out, focuses on licensing music to retailers for in-store airplay. GarageBand, like a HOTorNOT for music, offers free mp3 downloads and claims to host the definitive charts of independent music."
The songs that TruSonic/GarageBand have are only the ones that were included in TruSonic's broadcasting program. If you didn't opt-in, your songs are gone (or at least, TruSonic just doesn't have them). Also, it was already known a while ago that TruSonic still had these songs, it's just that now the authors are able to access them again.
It was also the sampling frequency they used. others use a higher sampling frequency for better results.
as for FLAC/SHN as soon as mp3 player's can read them and play them back I'm sure people will start serving them, but for now they are a very niche market
"I mean, come on - one single writable CD can hold a hundred or so songs. How hard would it be for even the most prolific band to keep a copy of everything they submitted to MP3.com"
I suppose you missed this little snippet: "are now enabling former MP3.com artists to visit www.MP3isBack.com and recover their MP3.com music, instantly re-generating their artist pages with just a few clicks"
I'm baffled as to how you were modded up so fast for this comment.
"Derp de derp."
Apple licensed the name from Garageband.com. No lawsuit. Don't worry.
Other than the few people who are signed but still have files available (Armchair Martian) who is worth listening to?
Red Delicious (a sort of college-rock/acoustic Garbage group), Bitsream Dream (electronic with a formerly large list on MP3.com, but check out "Velvet Black" and the "Anger Management" remix, and "Buddha's Patio" doesn't suck, either), and Ghost in the Machine (not-quite-ambient, sort of an electronic Robert Miles), to name three that I discovered through MP3.com and at least a handful of their work made it to my personal playlist.
Or, how about Jonne Valtonen, better known (one upon a time) as Purple Motion of Future Crew?
Add to that a few dozen one-offs that made it to my playlist (mostly by artists I lack the name of), and although it makes a low overall S:N, MP3.com did indeed have some great music available there.
Providing any of these folks resurrect their accounts:
Kim Justice (wrote Megatokyo-inspired songs).
Rick Richards (audio available here).
Prototype (audio available here as well).
Come to the University of Mars! Classes starting soon!
plug: nufunq
.. I can't explain it, and you may not like it. But some people do. I've been approached once or twice by parts of the industry and I've never performed live or have spent a cent on promotion.
d'n'b, blissed out electronic jazz, electro-hiphop
"Old man yells at systemd"
Uhm, nope. This is just a provider who has possession of a legit copy of the tunes that was given to them, and they're requiring the owner of the songs, the artists, step forward before distributing them.
RIAA has nothing to do with this. These were all indie bands to begin with...
I believe they get a lot of money/support from Alexa. They have some dedicated lines to Alexa which Alexa uses to send their internet crawls to Archive.org (which are shown on Archive.org after a six month or so delay). They also team up with the Library of Congress (at least for all the September 11th crawls).
.5 gig/second line. All the Grateful Dead tapes are clogging their bandwidth.
I think they can handle the storage space. They already have over half a petabyte. They bandwidth, however, might be a problem since they are maxing out their
Archive.org is a very worthy project. I am going to make my donation once I get my finances in order (aka, decide how much money I have to give and how exactly it will be divided up).
TERMS & CONDITIONS: What am I committing to?
For every song you host with GarageBand.com, you must agree to the contract below. It probably looks scarier than it really is, but please read through the whole thing. The key points are:
You confirm that you own the music you're uploading and that it obeys all content laws (e.g. it's not pornographic), that it contains no viruses, and that you're not a minor.
You grant us non-exclusive permission to use this music however we see fit (as part of a marketing promotion, for example)
Rest assured, however, that we're not going to sell your music (unless, of course, you decide to sign a recording or licensing contract with us).
Please, have your attorney check this out. We're sure you'll find it's fair and surprisingly chilled out. Here's the whole enchilada:
GARAGEBAND.COM INTERNET MUSIC HOSTING AGREEMENT
We have attempted to outline below in straightforward English the terms you agree to when you host your music at www.GarageBand.com ("GBC"). Please be aware that these terms if accepted by you, create a binding legal agreement between you and GBC which affects your rights. We strongly urge that before accepting these terms you print out a copy and review it with your attorney, manager and other representatives and if you have no such representatives that you seek other independent qualified guidance. We reserve the right to make changes to the Internet Music Hosting Agreement in the future, although these changes would not apply to you unless you accepted the revised terms.
The basic submissions terms which will constitute our agreement if you accept by clicking the "I ACCEPT" box or submit any material to GBC are as follows:
1. GBC Rights.
Any sound recordings, musical and/or vocal works, pictures, videos, song lyrics and/or other materials (collectively the "Material") submitted by you shall be available for us to use on a non-exclusive basis anywhere and everywhere throughout the universe without any payment to you. We will not sell or license your music to others (making your music available to visitors of our site shall not be considered a sale or license), but GBC will be authorized to reproduce, distribute, publicly perform,
publicly display and digitally perform and/or distribute the Material in whole or in part, alone or together with other material. GBC shall also have the right to use the Material for the
purpose of promoting GBC products and services and to use the name, likeness and biographical material and any logos, marks or trade names of you or any individuals performing or otherwise represented in the Material or the artist or
band included or referred to in the Material without any payment to you or any other persons or companies.
2. Ownership of Materials.
At all times you shall retain full ownership of the Material while granting to GBC the following non-exclusive rights: By accepting
this agreement and/or submitting any Material, you are guaranteeing to GBC that you are of legal age to enter into contracts (you're not a minor) and have all rights, approvals and/or consents necessary to submit the Material on the terms provided herein. You also guarantee that no permission is required from any other individual or company for us to use the Material and other rights provided herein. You further guarantee
to GBC that the compositions, recordings, lyrics and other materials contained in the Material are original, created only by you and do not contain any "samples" or excerpts from
the material of others and do not otherwise infringe on the rights of any other individuals or companies. Although we're big believers in free expression, you also guarantee that the
Material does not and will not violate any laws or be defamatory, libelous, pornographic or obscene. Finally, you guarantee to GBC that the Material will not contain any "viruses" or other information which may damage or otherwise interfere with GBC computer systems or data or tha
Trusonic FAQ
4a. I was told that my music was going to be deleted after the sale of MP3.com. What happened?
Trusonic has the audio files of songs upload to www.mp3.com, but only if those songs were enrolled in the Trusonic Music Program as of December 19, 2003. Trusonic does not have access to songs that were not enrolled in the Trusonic Music Program.
Or give them $100 for 'lifetime' membership, though they obviously cannot guarantee they'll be around for anybody's lifetime.
Yet another mu$ic indu$stry scam ... composers are forced to pay in order to get their stuff heard. Hey! Is anybody listening? We're the ones doing the work. You should be paying US!!
On garageband, you can recover only 3 songs. If you want to recover more, it will cost you $ 6.99 per song..
Sounds like a good idea, and then I went to recover our old tunes. Nice of them to say that you have to pay if you want to recover more than three, after signing up. Grrr.
;)
Then it insists you choose three artists similar to you, from a rather limited drop down list. Someone should tell them that not everyone makes guitar-based music.
All our tunes are on our own website anyway. Couldn't find a link to delete the Garageband.com account (what a crap name anyway!) so I am awaiting an email back about it...
Oh, and download some tunes if you want, but I know they're not great, so don't bother flaming
The iRATE project downloads music from sites like these, and gives them to you inside a music player. You then say how much you like various tracks, and it compares your ratings to those of other people, and gives you more stuff it thinks you'll like. You end up with a large collection of indie music that is filtered to be what you consider good stuff. (And then you can buy CDs of it to support the band if you like :)
Aside from all this talk about lossy compression, some of you might want to know that CNET has recently launched music.download.com as a substitute for previous users of MP3.com to release their music.
I previously had an MP3.com account, and after I got the notification that the service was going down, I got an e-mail, along with the rest of us, from CNET announcing that they where going to set up a service like MP3.com.
CNET Downloads.com Music will still have artist pages with your photo, bio, song listings, etc. You can only upload 192kbps stereo MP3s (which is unfortunate because I was hoping for OGGs as well, but they need to do that for their streaming software).
It's still in the beta stage now. It should go public in "a few short weeks", but if you are an artist you can sign up now and start submitting your files. So, not only is the MP3.com archive not lost, but a similar service is comming back as well.