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Ninja Gaiden Censored For European Release

Thanks to GamesIndustry.Biz for its article confirming that Tecmo's Xbox title Ninja Gaiden has been censored for European release, seemingly "to remove certain violent aspects such as decapitations." According to the piece, these changes "have been removed apparently at the request of European censors, and the final PAL code for the game has been granted a 16 rating by pan-European ratings body PEGI, which rates games for a wide range of European countries (including the notoriously censorious German market)." However, it seems "the actual impact of the change to the game is minor... and does little to detract from the well-received game - which was the best selling single-platform title in the USA last month." Update: 04/22 14:42 GMT by S : Simon Vivien explains what commenters also mention: "Germany still uses USK, which is another rating board dedicated to their market. The rest of Europe indeeds use PEGI. A 16+ PEGI rating doesn't especially mean a 16+ USK rating - as was witnessed in our latest shooter, Painkiller, who received a 16+ PEGI rating but was banned in Germany."

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  1. Not altogether scandalous by wizarddc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is the equivilant of movie producers removing blood, titties and cursing after they get a NC-17, trying to at least sneak in an R. It just so happens that the Euros are censoring this when the US isn't. I don't see anything that big a deal about this, except for the fact that this might be the first major time this has happened.

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    1. Re:Not altogether scandalous by Krandor3 · · Score: 5, Informative

      If I am reading the article correctly, it sounds like they were not forced to remove stuff, but that they would have just gotten a higher rating if they didn't remove it. If they had a choice to release the game with all the material in and just have gotten a higher rating, then it is not censorship. They decided to remove it to get a 16 rating. At least that is how ie reads to me.

    2. Re:Not altogether scandalous by Fred+Or+Alive · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yep, there's an 18+ PEGI rating (the voluntary game ratings system used in Europe, replacing the ELSPA ones in the UK.) However individual countries laws can go overrule this, such as the UK's Video Recordings Act (and associated laws), and Germany's laws, where they really don't like gore and so on. They might only want to prepare one PAL version of the game (rather than a rest-of-Europe and a German version), so bow to the German censorship requirements across Europe, or they just want a lower rating for sales reasons.

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  2. bah censorship... by hookedup · · Score: 4, Funny

    C'mon folks, HE'S A NINJA, it's what they do.

    Any idea if manhunt had a european release? I cant even see that game hitting the shelves over there.

    1. Re:bah censorship... by GregChant · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Obviously, the EU hasn't discovered the real ultimate power yet...

    2. Re:bah censorship... by Fred+Or+Alive · · Score: 4, Informative

      Manhunt was release in Europe, or at least in the UK. It doesn't have the PEGI voluntary ratings, it has a BBFC 18 certificate, which means that retailers would break the law if sell it to people under 18, the same as an 18 rated DVD (the Video Recordings Act 1984 and all that funk.) I don't know about other countries, as most games nowadays have UK specific packaging, so the UK BBFC rating is the only one on the box IIRC.

      AFAIK it was developed by Rockstar North, the same people as Grand Theft Auto (originally DMA Design, who also created the first Lemmings), who are based in Scotland. GTA games are also BBFC 18 rated.

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  3. Great Game by j.bellone · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This game is a great game, fun, well though out, well planned, there is almost nothing wrong with this game... almost. The front of the game box says "Online Enabled", I spent $50 on the game to go play some Ninja Gaiden online (in any form) only to find out when I got home that the whole "online tournament" didn't start until E3 (the middle of May). Very misleading.

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    1. Re:Great Game by randomdef · · Score: 3, Funny

      see, you gotta look out buddy, look for the super packages that say "Online Enabled NOW"

    2. Re:Great Game by Xzzy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My only complaint with the game was the long recycle time when you died, it seemed completely unneccessary.

      And considering the steep learning curve of the game, many people die a LOT.

      Playing that boring death animation, fading to the game over, selecting "yes", then waiting for a reload translates to a lot of wasted time. Even worse if you're stuck on a fight that leads in with a cutscene.. ugh.

    3. Re:Great Game by j.bellone · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Did you ever notice that you absolutely cannot quit to the title screen once you're in a game? I've tired several ways, the damn exit thing on the menu just exits the menus.

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  4. Not the first time, won't be the last by BigJimSlade · · Score: 3, Interesting

    1) The Euro version of Contra was called "Probotectors" and featured robots. Because obviously a bunch of robots killing aliens is much less violent than two Rambo clones.

    2) Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles. They're definitely not ninjas.

    1. Re:Not the first time, won't be the last by buffer-overflowed · · Score: 5, Funny

      Europe: Violence bad. Nudity/Sex ok.
      USA: Violence good. Nudity/Sex bad.
      Japan: Violence ok. Nudity/Sex good. Tentacle rape better!

      Different cultures/different attitudes.

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  5. Idea by Sv-Manowar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    why dont they ever just release the original with a high rating , and then consider releasing a censored version - therefore not taking any away from the game for guys who really want to see every piece of tissue flying from their opponents brain. Of course it's all about the money for the publishers so your never going to see a version that won't be aimed at the biggest market

  6. Re:Slashdot censors too. Watch this. by MCC-SMART · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It exists no cencoring in Europe. What in Europe exists is legal protection for children and young persons. When you are 18+ it's no problem to buy your non-defused version at retailer which imports the game's US-Version. Costs some Euros more, but so what? P.S. It is not Europe, which established an Gestapo with a law called Patriot Act I+II...

  7. PEGI is NOT valid in Germany by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Germany has its own rating board called the USK (Unterhaltungssoftware Selbstkontrolle, entertainment software self-control), whose ratings are legally binding. That means you go to jail for selling a game without youth clearance (i.e. 18 and over) to a minor or any other game to a person younger than the minimum age the USK set.

    Furthermore there is the BPjM (Bundesprüfstelle für jugendgefährdende Medien, federal testing centre for youth-endangering media), which can issue an indexing that makes it illegal to advertise the game to minors (means you are not allowed to put it on a shelf or write about it in a magazine if the shelf or magazine is accessible by minors). Most retailers don't stock or sell indexed games and since there'S no advertising that can be fatal for sales.

    The PEGI is not an accepted rating system within Germany.

  8. Re:GAH! by WormholeFiend · · Score: 2, Insightful

    you dont know what "fo shizzle" means, do you?

  9. Doesn't Europe Realize by Mr.Dippy · · Score: 2, Funny

    when decapitations are outlawed only outlaws will have decapitations.

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  10. Re:Thank goodness by feyhunde · · Score: 3, Funny

    Yes, we all know in France people qued up to get their hair cut during the revolution.

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  11. Re:America vs. Europe by Shakey_Jake33 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There's actually a suprisingly lack of these kinds of people in Europe.

    Germany truely is simply the exception to the rule really, a large majority of violent games can be released in the rest of Europe, and few people will bat an eyelid.
    I believe they even banned Quake 2 in Germany for the longest time, whereas I don't think such a thing was even suggested elsewhere.

    The general view here is that violent games usually have an 18 age rating, and it is enforced, anyone who even looks under 18 will nopt be abler to buy the game without some form of identification (I myself get refused sale of a game sometimes, dispite being over 18)...so kids shouldn't be playing the game anyway. If they are, someone's messed up along the lines... but certainly not the company. All but a few obsessive mothers recognise that, generally.

    One exception to this however would be the game Hooligans, which caused a fair bit of controversy here in the UK, but that was largely because England has a pretty bad reputation for football hooliganism.

  12. Re:America vs. Europe by teddiesmooth · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've been living in Germany for the past 9 months and you see lots of this on TV. They have no problems with showing sex in movies, or liquid soap commercials with a naked chick showering in a waterfall, or Britney's Toxic video, but they have major issues with censoring what would be considered virtual violence. I think our 'puritianistic' American society, which is run by the hypocritical bible-bound asses of politicians, should be a little bit more stringent about violent content on normal TV.

    Too many parents rely on the TV as a babysitter. Maybe if we had better parenting in our society censorship wouldn't be as much as a problem!

    I'll step down from my soapbox and put my two cents back into my pocket.

  13. Re:Slashdot censors too. Watch this. by captainktainer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The difference is none. Europe is "protecting" children and young people- censoring what they are allowed to be exposed to. More importantly, because the censorship is applied to all retailers, it affects what adults can be exposed to as well. The appropriateness of the censorship can be debated all you want, but it is *still censorship*.

    I can import Japanese tentacle porn, but by no means does that mean that censorship isn't going on- it just means that the censorship has a "outlet" wherein domestic producers aren't allowed to produce a certain work, but if it comes from overseas, it's just fine and dandy. (Yes, tentacle porn can be produced in the U.S. In fact, pretty much anything can be produced in the U.S. We don't have censorship on the order of the European countries. It is being used to illustrate a point.)

    By the way, your obviously trolling and irrelevant crap about the Patriot Act isn't appreciated. Yeah, the USAPATRIOT Act was a POS. But Patriot Act II has not been passed- elements were just incorporated into an intelligence bill, and whatever anti-American biases exist in your mind, it isn't as bad as the Fascists, who raped, pillaged, shut people away in labor camps, and led them to their death simply because they looked different. If you're going to flame away about absolutely irrelevant American politics, know what you're talking about, mmkay?

  14. Re:Slashdot censors too. Watch this. by Guppy06 · · Score: 2, Informative
  15. Re:All your nazi are belong to us by MCC-SMART · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You can't import a Wolf3D-guide, because it contains illegal signs. It is not allowed in Germany to show things like the SS-sign or the swastika. These signs had been used by the Nazis and where often used by the Neonazi-groups to identificate thmselves. In Germany it is not allowed to rush against minorities, jews or foreigners in a brainless way (like the Noenazis ones). So these organisations and groups are forbidden, and so their signs are forbidden. Medias (books, films, magazines, games etc.) which contain these signs for non-artistic way, are forbidden too. The Wolf3D-Guide contains SS-signs and swastikas.

  16. In other news... by daVinci1980 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... and because it didn't affect the rating in Europe, the ninjas you will be facing in Ninja Gaiden are all naked women.

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