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IT Workers Not Eligible for Overtime in New Rules
bjarvis354 writes "The San Diego Union Tribune is reporting that the Department of Labor Secretary Elaine Chao unveiled new rules that seem to specifically target IT workers and other white collar workers for exemption from overtime pay. The Oneonta Daily Star claims that 'According to new exemption tests, the employee isn't guaranteed overtime pay if primary duties involve office or non-manual work,' and 'Computer employees are not guaranteed overtime pay if they make $455 a week, or if their hourly rate is $27.63. Affected employees include computer systems analysts, programmers, software engineers or anyone with a similar title.'"
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THis sucks!!f1&7 p0$7
to hop on the boat to bangalore. Do they have flush toilets in india?
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NO not unions al unionsend up doing is exploting the employer. They should get together in a group but do not form a union UNION = 3v1l
The conservative is the man who has a real concern for injustices and takes thought against the day of reckoning.
Right-wing freaks? No, this is a moderate idea. Overtime was not progress: it was fascism. The government should not meddle in such private affairs: it is not their business. Let the pay be for the real value of the work, not some arbitrary value set by Washington.
The Democrats stand for the 8 or 9% of workers who are in unions and actually want to be in them. The Republicans stand for the other 91% of the workforce, and stands to protect them from being forced into political organizations as a condition of work. The Democrats don't help matters when they want higher taxes on working people.
A. Jackass, it's not uninformed. I was an IT drone for almost 7 years.
/. surfers provide virtually no income to me at all. They're mostly leechers.
B.
C. I have nothing to do with spam, whatsoever.
Go away.
"Welcome to club GITMO, mr Coward..."
Bush could mandage overtime pay of 5 times the regular rate, and the AFL-CIO would still hate him.
How about blasting a few assumptions from our lazy semi-socialist system:
1) You, not the government, should be responsible to ensure your needs are met.
2) You, not the government, are free to sign or not sign a contract with your employer that will detail compensation.
3) Minimum wages restrict the demand for labor, and creates unemployment.
4) Requirements by the government, such as requiring/not allowing overtime pay, warp the market for labor, and only hurt society.
5) The habit of government to get involved has made most of you convinced that you cannot act on your own, hence the whining BS which always follows such a post. This is about the degradation of our social fabric.
If you think you are not paid enough the solution is quite simple:
1) Change jobs
2) Get an additional job
3) Start your own company
If you can't cut it, go back to your mother's basement.
Passing the buck for reasons of "social equality" will lead to nothing but friction on the progress of society, let alone enters the realm of oppressing liberty, in the rather muddled definition of "social equality".
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Yes, I work about 43-44 hours a week. But considering that I spend 2-3 hours a day jerking off to porn during work hours (ah, the joys of working at home), I think I owe it to the company to put in those extra hours.
And yes, I am very good at multitasking.. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to pull that off.
We are not hiring. Business is slow. I am a network tech at the company www.unionbuiltpc.com . They teat me well and pay me decent. We have competitive bill rates (about $100/hr) and good prices on computers (close to the big companies). Vote your dollars and buy from this company. Social change comes mostly from the market in business situation. Tell others about this company. They do not sell out for more profits. Both line workers and management are unionized (separate unions). This balance works for everyone.
What people forget is that government is there to protect those who can't protect themselves.
I don't forget that because it's simply not true. I guess I forget where in the constitution it defines the purpose of government "to protect those who can't protect themselves."
Government does create laws to protect people, but when you get a job you enter into what should be a private contract between you and your employer. The government has created labor laws protecting workers. These laws define the length of a workweek, they define a minimum wage, they establish departments like OSHA. There are no longer any valid reasons for unions.
Don't anybody whine that they may lose overtime benefits. Nobody guaranteed you a job out of college, let alone one that paid $50k or more because of overtime. If you think you're working too hard for not enough pay, that's when you go to your employer, show the evidence of how much extra you've done for the company, and ask for a raise. If you're not inclined to do that, then you probably would LIKE more money, but realize you're not worth it. If you're scared you'll get fired, then you probably realize that you are expendable and are being paid what you are worth to the company. If you don't like, go somewhere else. Despite all the doom and gloom news, there are plenty of jobs. If you're not qualified, then you don't have anyone to blame but yourself.
Stupid sexy Flanders.
"Department of Labor Secretary Elaine Chao unveiled new rules that seem to specifically target IT workers..."
How can you discuss "promotion ladders" at a time like this? The Bush administration has just said that you don't deserve to be paid for some of the hours you work.
Bush for President! -- Of Iraq. He made the mess. Let him fix it. And no paid overtime for him.
Bush seems to be close buddies with Osama bin Laden. Bush got war and weapons and oil contracts for his friends. Osama got his dream -- The U.S. invaded an oil-rich Arab country. All the publicity Osama could want, and he didn't have to place even one ad. Bush is a master marketing man, but he's working for the cause of violence.
Mubaryk: "There exists today a hatred of Americans never equalled in the region," he told the newspaper Le Monde in a reference to the Middle East.
"In the beginning some people thought the Americans were helping them. There was no hatred towards Americans. After what happened in Iraq, there is an unprecedented hatred and the Americans know it," said Mubarak, regarded as one of the Middle Eastern leaders relatively sympathetic to the United States.
He said the first cause of terrorism was injustice. "Look at what is happening in Palestine and in Iraq. Where there is pressure and injustice there are terrorism and attacks," he said.
"It is despair that pushes some people to commit attacks against some American interest or other.
"Despair and a feeling of injustice are not going to confine themselves to our region," Mubarak said. "American and Israeli interests are not safe, not only in our region but in other parts of the world, in Europe, in America, anywhere in the worl."
Mubarak also accused the United States of having helped create fundamentalist Islamist movements to fight the influence of the former Soviet Union.
"It is dangerous to exploit religion. They used Islam against communism. And today they say Islam is a danger. You should not meddle with the faith and beliefs of people."
...after being found guilty of treason in a court of law, of course.
Until we get rid of the idea that our elected offical are anything other than our goddamn hired men, and start recognizing that the citizen is the owner of America, and that the country should revolve around satisfying the citizen, then this pack animal crap will continue.
We need to start punishing our hired men in a drastic fashion.
eat shiat and bark at the moon
Wake up. First, the rule does NOT say IT workers get overtime pay if they make less than $455/week, it says they don;t get overtime AT ALL because their job does not involve manual labor. So unless your primary responsibility job is stringing cables or the like you will not get overtime pay.
Secondly, there are LOTS of people who make more than a pitiful $23,600 per year who make overtime pay (and $23,600 is what $455/week translates into).
Bush made SEVEN HUNDRED THOUSAND dollars last year, while his buddy Cheney made EIGHT hundred thousand. I don;t have a problem with people making a lot of money, but i don;t want them making rules that take it away from people who are just barely surviving. These guys made more in a day than the poor jerks who make $455/week made in an entire MONTH - and now they want to stop their overtime pay!!!
Bush, Cheney, rove, Wolfowitz, and Runsfeld are all multi-millionaires who want to make sure all the money comes to them and their fat cat cronies. Now he wants to keep the poor slobs who make a fucking pitifull $23,000 an year from getting overtime pay. It is all about greed and power. It is about Enron and Halliburton and oil and the Saudi royal family and money, money, money. Wake the fuck up.