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Shifting From P2P To Stream Ripping

An anonymous reader submits "As users continue to try fending off the ever more litigious music industry, some seem to have dropped P2P entirely, moving to ripping instead. While they lose some control over what they are downloading, it's a untraceable way to download music (no way for the RIAA to track users or sue). With some of the more powerful software that's been coming out recently, stream ripping has become more main-stream. Some of the more well known software packages, like StationRipper, allow users to download several thousand songs on a daily basis. And, depending on how you read the law, it's 100% legal. How will the RIAA respond? As more users move to this type of technology to avoid the P2P lawsuits, how will the music industry respond?"

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  1. Just make sure... by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 5, Informative

    The station you rip is streaming their songs with the ID3 tags otherwise the software won't know when to stop one MP3 and start another one.

  2. streamripper by quelrods · · Score: 5, Informative

    don't forget streamripper.sourceforge.net They have support for just abt every os under the sun and if all else fails you can recompile yourself. I think finding a stream that spends 50% or more of it's time playing music you enjoy and ripping results in nice collection. (I do this because our bandwith at work is overused and streaming doesn't work out so well.)

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  3. Stream ripping easy does it with your friend Linux by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Informative
    I've been doing that with ALSA under Linux, and SoundBlaster Live! cards for a long time. No need to dowload anything. Here's how:

    Start alsamixer

    Set the capture source to "wave"

    Jack up the "wave capture" setting

    Capture the stream (or anything currently playing in fact) from /dev/dsp

    Just think people have been bitching and moaning about the truly staggering number of ALSA settings for SB-Lives!, now see how it's useful?

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  4. Re:My parents used to do this by pauls2272 · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Sure it sounded bad but they didn't care. And neither did the RIAA..."

    Actually they DID care. That is why a royalty is paid to record companies for every blank tape sold. To compensate them for the copying people did at home.

  5. Re:Good idea but... by Suidae · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why not just rip from CDs borrowed from friends (or the library)?

    Libraries are great sources, and so are used music and book stores. They will generally buy stuff back after you've had it for a while too. The music ends up not being totally free, but it only costs a couple of bucks per CD, which is better than anywhere else.

  6. Re:Keys to the kingdom for $9.95?!? by EverDense · · Score: 4, Informative

    Freeware Stream Ripper for Windows http://www.naturpic.com/all2wav/

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  7. For Mac Users... by toupsie · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you are using Mac OS X, you can use audio hijaak pro. It lets you record RealAudio, Windows Media and MP3 streams. I use it all the time to time shift radio shows I like to AAC or MP3 for my iPod. Works like a charm. You can set up schedules and file sizes. Really sharp.

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  8. Re:What's the equivalent for movies? by Z-MaxX · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can use ASFRecorder, or, what I've been doing lately, use MPlayer with the -dumpstream option to save absolutely anything. I've recorded Windows Media video (with audio), RealMedia streams, MP3, and more. Works like a charm.

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  9. Re:Good idea but... by Hwon · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are many high-quality stations on Shoutcast. Some go up as high as 320k/s, though there are very few of those and genre is fairly limited. Though there are plenty of streams around 256 just have to sort by bandwidth.

  10. Re:My parents used to do this by Suppafly · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hmmmm... maybe I should consider building a Line In for my car cassette deck, so I can hook my portable MP3 player directly into it.

    Mini jack to tape adapters only cost about $3 for a cheap one.

  11. Re:My parents used to do this by tkrotchko · · Score: 4, Informative

    Type I - Standard tape, useless except for radio recordings and voice
    Type II - Better sound than Type II. Good for stuff you just wanted to listen to in the car.
    Type IV - Metal tapes. Good enough to tape an album and listen to in your home stereo. Expensive, so you had to wait for sales.

    I seem to remember
    Type III - Chrome tapes. Good enough for most stuff, but tended to be noisier too.

    This is all from 25 years ago, so its a bit tough to remember everything.

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  12. Re:Legal Question (was Re:Good idea but...) by greyfeld · · Score: 5, Informative
    Actually burning a friend's CD with an approved device and approved media is completely legal as long as you are not selling the CD's. The Audio Home Recording Act was basically the government giving into the music lobby. They record companies (many owned by the makers of the recorders) realized that there was nothing they could do about home taping and the manufacturers of recording devices agreed to levy a tax on their product and everyone would look the other way. If you are using a device that is made specificaly for copying, then copy away!!

    There is a catch though, you must use a device that is "commonly distributed to individuals for use by individuals" and for which the primary purpose of the device is to make such recordings. What are these devices? Well they are DAT tape recorders, Cassette recorders, and CD recorders sold in places like Best Buy that are set top units. CD-ROM drives and computers are not "marketed for the primary purpose" of making digital audio copies, so they don't fit the law. You must also use blanks that are for the express purpose of copying music. They must also contain the SCMS (serial copy management system) that prevents you from making copies of copies. Source disks must be originals in these devices. Obviously, these controls do not exist on CDROM drives or computers.

    There is a tax on these devices and blanks that is distributed out to the artists as royalties based on their popularity, etc. That's the crux of the issue - CD-ROM drives are not marketed as primarily CD copying devices, nor are computers and they do not contain the record copyright controls. But these set top boxes have only one real function, and there is a additional tax levied on them in the U.S. to legitimize their use.

    Find a copy of the law here.

    Section 1001 defines a "digital audio recording device" as: "Any machine or device of a type commonly distributed to individuals for use by individuals, whether or not included with or as part of some other machine or device, the digital recording function of which is designed or marketed for the primary purpose of, and that is capable of, making a digital audio copied recording for private use ...".

    Section 1008 says "No action may be brought under this title alleging infringement of copyright based on the manufacture, importation, or distribution of a digital audio recording device, a digital audio recording medium, an analog recording device, or an analog recording medium, or based on the non-commercial use by a consumer of such a device or medium for making digital musical recordings or analog music recordings."