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Diary Illuminates Einstein's Last Years
b00le writes "Several sources carry versions of this story about the diary of Johanna Fantova who shared much of the last years of Einstein's life (and cut his hair) and witnessed his kindness and poltical activisim. The diary does not seem to have been translated from the German yet, but the site has extracts. According to this, Fantova tried to publish the diaries herself and of course failed to find an agent."
This is possably why she failed to find a publisist.
They check the document before publishing it. Were as newspaper's push anything they have to the public.
Very interesting... I wonder how true it is. I have my concerns with the "Big Nazi" comments. From many published reports, Einstein was a bit on the touched side on social issues, but this seems a bit questionable. Having access to the "full diary" should prove the authenticity of the whole thing. I have my doubts about it, and getting excepts only raises my suspicions.
the people in charge of knowing better don't.
Film executives don't know anything about film or movie goers. Music executives certainly wouldn't know music if they heard it, but they understand large boobies and good skin. While a perhaps surprising number of female models look like male heroin addicts. So literary agents don't know something worth reading when it's already largely written and walks itself into their office. I'm sure we could all turn to another NetOps ForceCenter book which Tom Clancy probably outsourced to a prison labor camp in North Korea.
In fact Einstein said "ein grosse Nazi". I thnk it just about accurately sums up Heisenberg who had been active in the Bavarian extreme right even before the Nazi's came to power.
I am aware of that. I am also aware that he did not sympathize with the nazis and only did his work because he had to. But nonetheless, he _did_ the work. There are stories of Heisenberg having to fake nazi sympathies in letters to friends because the nazis read everything he wrote, something that caused a lot of his old friends to think he really did sympathize with the nazis at the time and take offence.
was a UN with teeth. Violate the charter and we'll come after you. Much more effective than the current talking sessions, which no violator ever takes serious. Now *that* would improve the world.
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forget the e=mc^2 stuff
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This is from the article:
In close succession, Einstein received visits from physicist Werner Heisenberg, who led the Nazi German A-bomb effort, and Aage Bohr, son of physicist Niels Bohr, who became Heisenberg's rival. Fantova recounted that after the visits, Einstein called Heisenberg "a big Nazi" and commented that Bohr was more pleasant but spoke constantly.
From the context, it seems clear that Einstein is referring to Heisenberg's demeanour, perhaps also his expressed opinions and world-views. Heisenberg's past is not the issue here. Einstein was stating his personal perception of Heisenberg, as established from his own acquaintance with him.
I hear there's rumors on the Slashdots
One of the more interesting things about society in the United States is the way in which "dangerous" ideas can be neutralized and forgotten without actual censorship. Jack London, Helen Keller, and Albert Einstein are good examples of people whose political opinions were successfully submerged in the popular consciousness by elevating the non-threatening aspects of their life and work.
An example from the right rather than the left would be Charles Lindbergh.
I remember being surprised by my discovery, in the sixties, that a) many people of my parents' generation at least recognize the tune and words of The Internationale, that virtually nobody from the sixties generation does--not even the real lefties--and that people from my parents' generation were largely unaware that people from the next generation don't know it. A song and a political emblem, into the memory hole without benefit of telescreens.
"How to Do Nothing," kids activities, back in print!
...was "I live in that solitude which is painful in youth, but delicious in the years of maturity."
It's surprising that someone so respected would need to chase a carrot like that. It sounds like that solitude extended indefinitely. Maybe extreme genius demands solitude.
Any thoughts?
Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose.
What exactly does that mean?
It fills me with deep apprehension to see how people who might otherwise rail against "PC revisionism" will dismiss something like Einstein's various social causes, putting them in a basket like "he was a little 'touched'" to keep them at a safe distance. Heisenberg had worked for the German war machine trying to develop an atom bomb. Do we not think Einstein could possibly have strong feelings about that? Whether this diary's legit or not, that particular point doesn't seem over the edge to me. Over-candid, maybe -- as might happen in a diary...
It' ain't just Einstein (who was an avowed socialist by the way -- boo!). A worse and weirder thing has happened with Helen Keller. Helen Keller was a hell of a woman; Winston Churchill called her "The greatest woman of our age." We've made her a curiosity, a freak show -- because we're airbrushing out her entire adult life so that she's safer for fifth-graders to read about. Okay, so these two people were socialists, and I'm not. (I'd be more of a Keynesian, along the lines of Richard Nixon, economically.) Opinions far from our own aren't inherently nuts, and we don't have to be scared of them -- do we?
"Fundamentalism" isn't about divine morality. It's about human authority.
Werner Heisenberg is the father of the Atom Bomb.
Just in an alternate universe.
Yea, the Nazi's won in that one. Churchhill tripped once as a teenager and hit his head a bit too hard on the pavement. He was finally killed by the SS when they marched through London. No, not in Parliament, on the street. He was a bum.
It's quite an alternate universe, let me tell ya.
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Well, speaking as a German, I think it is highly likely that he said that.
Namecalling isn't only an American pasttime.
And calling people Nazi's is one of my nations favorites pasttime.
And just after the war it was bound to happen even more often - especially if you consider that Heisenberg wasn't exactly on the left side of politics, neither before nor after the war.
"ein grosse Nazi"
I doubt he would have butchered the German language, so where did you find this "fact"?
On a tagential, but seemingly related note. Hao Wang's book "A Logical Journey: From Gödel to Philosophy" is a similar type of book. It's really more of a historical source, not a book. The author merely collected and recorded facts based on Godel's life. Godel and Einstein spent 20 years together at the Institute for Advanced Study. Often times they would take walks together and they seemed to be good friends. Also, Godel seemed to have had an active interest in cosmology, prehaps presceint of the rigourization of cosmological models in the post-Einstein era.
Godel lived a rather mundane life. He was no Feynman. He was quiet. While Einstein seemed to enjoy, if not ask, to be treated as a scientific god, Godel seemed to hate such exclusion. Often times, mathematicians and philosophers feared to even talk to the great Godel. Even Von Nuemann (who seemed to have little respect for Einstein [see Ulam's autobiography]), referred to Godel as the greatest philosopher since Aristotle. Facts, as found in Wang's book, such as Godel's fondness for "chicken and biscuits" or Godel spending Sunday mornings in bed reading the Bible are mundane. However, these men were mundane. They're world was completely of the mind. Often these men quirks are the only really interesting things about them. They were virtually indisguishable in public. In fact, in Martin Davis book, "The Universal Computer" Davis' wife exclaimed, upon first seeing Einstein and Godel together at Princeton, that see had seen "Einstein and his lawyer".
In the case of this woman's diaries, I'm more concerned she deified Einstein, thus tainting her view. I believe the publishers may have been right in this case. Her diaries probably read more like notes. They probably would have requried some extensive work or further research before being worthy of a book.
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The mistake mentioned in the article (reporting Einstein phoning his sister several years after she was dead) doesn't sound like the sort of mistake a real diarist would ever make.Well, the German word "Schwester" can mean any of "nurse", "nun" and "sister", so it's not totally unlikely that either Johanna Fantova misunderstood Einstein or the person finding that mistake misunderstood Mrs Fantova, as Einstein, being ill, certainly had to deal with nurses.
Heisenberg's Physics and Beyond is, on the other hand, a brilliant chronicle of the development of quantum physics. Heisenberg's disgust at faculty loyalty oaths and other trappings of National Socialism is clear. Heinsenberg also records the brilliance and humor of his colleagues, like Wolfgang Pauli, "There is no God and Dirac is His prophet!" Heisenberg is quite gracious to Einstein, so it is sad Einstein couldn't rise above his petty bitterness to all things quantum (what a cranky idiot savant).
Since this is Slashdot, there is of course no need to urge folks to read Stan Ulam's Adventures of a Mathematician. Y'all got it next to Feynman on your shelves, right?
As I read the posts here, it strikes me that now is no different, it's just a different group that the public hears. The scientists, poets, playwrights of earlier times were the celebrities of that era. They were looked up to and listened to. That's why so much of that history is tied to political leanings.
Just as the celebrities of our time are just as outspoken. Actors, actresses, musicians--their comments on Bush, Iraq, Blair.
It's just a different era and those that have the public's ear are not those same 'lofty' thinkers as they were then. Torvalds, Gates, or Jobs might have political leanings you've never even thought of, but it'll probably never make it to the press. It's just not what the public wants anymore.