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iTunes One Year Anniversary Sparks Comparison

An anonymous reader writes "CNet News is running a story about the upcoming one year anniversary of Apple's iTunes service. It gives a pretty good summary of the year in online music, with a nice chart comparing each service's user base now and then. The most interesting quote in the article is from a record executive stressing that the industry is quietly hoping that the online music stores will start selling songs in compatible formats. As a sidenote, the headline story at the beginning is based off this page."

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  1. Re:Who want to bet... by FrYGuY101 · · Score: 4, Informative
    Is there a single google service that costs money for the average consumer to use?
    Yep. Google Answers.
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  2. Re:CD Baby - the word from the backend by linuxbaby · · Score: 5, Informative
    P.S. As of now, these are the different formats for which we have to convert every song - in delivering to the various download music services:
    • WMA9 - 192k
    • WMA9 - 160k
    • WMA9 - 128k
    • WMA9 - 96k
    • WMA9 - 32k
    • WMA9 - 20k mono
    • AAC - 128k
    • AAC - 256k
    • MP3 - hifi VBR (lame -preset standard)
    • MP3 - 128k
    • Ogg Vorbis - q6
    • FLAC
    In-house we use FLAC to store everything, then have shell scripts to de-code those FLACs to WAV files to convert to the various other formats.
  3. Not a proper tabulation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Looking at the comparison table, it isn't fair to list Rhapsody in there, with Rhapsody being a streaming service and almost every other player in there is a download service. Interesting to note that , RealPlayer music store is listed in there too and has a pretty good download number for something that opened just one-two months back.

    Rhapsody with a user base of 489,000 is doing pretty good I beleive with each user paying $10 / month . Thats like 4.89 million. Apple is way ahead in the competition with almost double the users compared to its successor.

  4. Bleep is my fave by Twid · · Score: 4, Informative

    My current favorite download service is Bleep

    http://www.warprecords.com/bleep/

    Great electronic stuff from guys like Squarepusher and Plaid in un-DRM'd 192k LAME-encoded mp3 goodness.

    I wish iTunes had a higher quality option. It's not that 160k AAC sounds bad, but if the download is all I get, I'd like a higher quality format to get at the same time.

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  5. Re:Microsoft offering a competitive environment? by Hanji · · Score: 4, Informative

    I call bullshit.

    PlayFair/iTunes allows burning of the same playlist to a CD up to 10 times without modification, and rearranging tracks or tacking on a 1-second silent track counts as modifying and entitles you to another 10 burns. There is no reasonable way you should ever run up against that limit in anything resembling normal use, it seems to me.

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  6. Re:Microsoft offering a competitive environment? by dr.badass · · Score: 4, Informative

    Apple's PlayFair files only allow burning under limited circumstances, particularly that the same mix of songs can only be burned three times.

    That's simply not true. What are these "limited circumstances" you speak of? And where do you get three times? Even Apple says ten is the limit for a given playlist, and IIRC, once you reach that limit you can just make a new, identical playlist. There is no per-track limit.

    Microsoft's WMA format allows the DRM applier to set whether they want to allow 1 burn, 5 burns, any other number of burns, or infinite burning. Again, Microsoft's just the software provider, it's up to the store to make the deals for these things....

    What this means in reality is that any two tracks even from the same store might have different limitations. If you make a mix with tracks A and B, with burn limits of 1 and 5, respectively, you won't be allowed to make two copies of that mix.

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  7. Legal alternatives, without DRM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why don't more people seem to mention or know about the legal alternatives to these services.

    www.allofmp3.com
    www.3mp3.ru
    club.mp3search.ru

    It's legal even in the US due to international copyright law.
    (www.museekster.com/allofmp3info.htm)

  8. Re:Mac + Windows = Success by useosx · · Score: 5, Informative

    Nice post, but a little out of date, as I see no mention of Poisoned which is a front end to giFT. giFT supports FastTrack (Kazaa), Gnutella, and OpenFT (a hot little network). Personally I'd rather run Poisoned than Kazaa any day.

    Furthermore, the BitTorrent community is alive and well on OS X. Azureus works really well, and there's a hot little native client that is better than the standard one.

    I've been using the Overnet command line client, which sucks but gets the job done better than the various front-ends floating around.

    And then there's Hotline, Carracho, and the new open-source client-server model "Wired".

    Enjoy.

  9. Re:Microsoft offering a competitive environment? by Durandal64 · · Score: 4, Informative
    The Apple camp exists in a silo, as usual. Music purchased at the iTunes Music Store is only playable in iTunes, and only natively transfers to an iPod family portible.
    iTunes Music Service M4P's will play in any application that can play QuickTime files. Maybe you should email the WinAmp developers and tell them to use the QuickTime API instead of pissing and moaning about how no apps besides iTunes support them (oh, except for VLC, but you were too busy complaining to research that). What do you want Apple to do? Write 4 other MP3 players? They've given Windows developers the tools to do it.
  10. DRM, Linux, Mac, and Windows... by Goonie · · Score: 3, Informative
    Your argument rests on the false assumption that Windows and Mac provide a safe environment for DRM systems. The only difference between DRM for Linux and DRM for closed-source platforms is that there is at least an illusion for closed source platforms that DRM will work.

    In practice, this is complete BS. Aside from Playfair, there are innumerable programs out there that provide "virtual sound cards", so you can rip the output of any sound player straight to your hard drive.

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  11. Re:CD Baby - the word from the backend by linuxbaby · · Score: 3, Informative
    Just out of curiosity, who gives out 256K AAC?
    Rhapsody doesn't distribute it but does use it as their in-house archive format for future transcoding.
  12. Re:Microsoft offering a competitive environment? by jimmyharris · · Score: 4, Informative

    Microsoft is only entering the game as a software provider? No Microsoft music store? Did you think Microsoft could really resist leaving any pie untouched?

    http://news.com.com/2100-1027-5176411.html

    Microsoft said Friday that the second half of the year will see the launch of its online music store, a long-expected entry into an increasingly crowded business dominated by Apple Computer's iTunes.

    The software giant this week began offering sneak peaks of the service to independent record labels at the South by Southwest trade show in Austin, Texas. Though Microsoft remains mum about specific details, this week's dog and pony show signals the company's heightened ambitions to enter the world of online music sales with a bang.

  13. Re:There are customers outside US also by Xenex · · Score: 3, Informative
    "im in australia and we get jipped on everything - we dont even have any online music stores"
    Yes we do. BigPond Music is selling tracks for $AU0.99, right now.

    I wouldn't actually use it, though.
  14. Re:Microsoft offering a competitive environment? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I don't want to be offensive, but you should read and understand the posts before you reply to them (specially if you are going to quote them).

    The 10-copy limit applies only to burning a playlist to CD. And, as the other posted said, once you reach that limit, it is trivial to restart the counter (by rearranging or recreating the playlist).

    So, in practice, the 10-copy limit is irrelevant to the regular end user. It's only intended to slow down the pirates who want to burn dozens of copies of the same list.

  15. Re:Microsoft offering a competitive environment? by dr.badass · · Score: 4, Informative

    Once it's on an ISO CD format, it's fair game. Just make a binary copy of that CD as many times as you want.

    Sure, you can do the same thing with CDs made from iTunes, except you don't need to.

    I consider it a point against WMA-based services that you need additional 3rd-party software to do something that iTunes has no problem with in the first place.

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