Social Contract Amendment May Bump Sarge To 2005

An anonymous reader submits "Debian's Release Manager Anthony Towns announced that after the Grand Resolution to amend the Social Contract has been successful (it does not only apply to software any more), vital parts to modern Linux systems, such as important documentation, firmware needed for proper hardware support will have to be removed from the distribution before the next release. Moreover, the upcoming installer will need to be changed. He goes on to say that he does not expect this to happen by the end of this year which means that Sarge will not be released in 2004."

Comments

Re:Debian is fading into irrelevence?

[Anonymous Coward]

Aw hell, you had to go and do it. You post something that praises the ease of debian and you get a +5 mod to make you stand out.

Don't you know that you are just inviting the gentoo parrots to reply and lull us all into a semi-coma stupor as the prattle on and on? WHAT WERE YOU THINKING, MAN?

You know what this means.

[Visceral Monkey]

It's obviously the result of a grand conspiracy involving the masons, jews and gentoo users. Those dirty, dirty Gentoo users..

Re:You know what this means.

[Nasarius]

Those dirty, dirty Gentoo users..

And we would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!

Ah jeez...

[ecloud]

another excuse to be even later than ever.

I wish I had known to go vote on that one. I've been a bit of a Debian snob ever since I switched from Slackware but they seem to get further behind all the time. Am trying Gentoo on one box now, and it's much better about that. Nowadays it's better for bragging about too... don't need no steenkin' unoptimized binaries, and all that jazz.

Yeah I like the stability, and I like that it's 100% free software but this is ridiculous. Maybe do it in the next version? Plan ahead a little, rather than stop the whole train?

Eric Raymond a few years ago was preaching that while Open Source software doesn't permit you to make money by selling software, at least you can sell documentation, and consulting services, and t-shirts, and still put the beans on the table. Well I guess they don't even believe in non-free documentation. Next they'll be insisting that all Debian t-shirts be made only from wild open-range hemp, harvested and woven by young virgin volunteers, stone-washed in the Rocky Mountain heights, and given away freely to anyone who knows how to sing the Free Software Song properly.

I don't know the history of the libc documentation but I don't think anybody was suing them for compensation, were they? If not, maybe it's free enough, regardless of some poorly chosen words in a preamble somewhere?

Re:Debians own social standards???

[DAldredge]

You imply he is wrong in the first half of your sentence, then in the second have say he was right.

Every thought of running a presidental campaign?

In other news...

[luna1ix]

Debian has decided to change the codename of the next release to GNU/Longhorn.

Re:Why can't they

[gnu-generation-one]

"I tend to think of the "standard" location as being where I can find a file on better than 75% of the systems I've used"

#!c:\perl\bin\perl

Re:Why can't they

[vk2]

Secondly, you are sure that when you deploy, it's quick and painless, and you won't brake your server with a botched compile. Thirdly, you can deploy then on multiple servers quickly and efficiently.

No wonder my server ( without dev tools offcourse ) never slows down :-)