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Turbolinux Licenses Windows Media 9

spike-288 writes "According a press release, Turbolinux is the first major Linux distributor to license and ship a media player capable of streaming Windows Media audio and video. The new product, "Turbolinux 10 F..." is based on Turbolinux 10 Desktop but will also include licensed versions of Macromedia Flash, legal commercial DVD playback (via Cyberlink's PowerDVD player), RealPlayer 8, commercial Kanji fonts and iPod support via gtkpod (including enhanced functionality)." Update: 04/28 02:33 GMT by T : Prostoalex adds "The Windows Media codecs for Linux will be available for download for $64, the complete TurboLinux OS will cost $150 in Japan and the United States."

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  1. *BSD IS DYING by *BSD+is+Dead · · Score: -1, Troll
    It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: *BSD is dying

    Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dead

    1. Re:*BSD IS DYING by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

      Although my precious and limited time (I am an IT-outsourcing consultant) did not allow me to read the article, I am sure it involves something that

      • does run Linux

      • proofs that Mirosoft is making bad software

      • shows how stealing intellectual property simply cannot be wrong ("Actually, it is not stealing") because every fucking idiot does it

      • assumes that any law preventing child molesters from distributing their filthy shit is an attack on Free Speech

      • promotes homosexual, interracial or interspecial cohibitation


      So, if you are in an executive position and should ever decide to rather give a chance to hard working, motivated and educated asian IT-specialists instead of continuing to rely on your lazy, arrogant and incompetent US-American employees, there's Rent-A-Gook.

      Thank you for your time.
  2. SUK IT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    YAH!

  3. The problem with this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Linux Sucks! Use FreeBSD instead.

  4. Re:It still sucks by bogie · · Score: -1, Troll

    Who the hell modded this underrated?

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  5. Poor security makes this worthless. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Gentoo security announcements this month: 20
    TurboLinux security announcements this year: 13

    Gentoo security has been slow, but TurboLinux security appears to be abysmal.

  6. MPAA jews give you that shaft as usual by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    The MPAA jews will always find a way to milk all your suckers for a few bucks.

    The italians had an OK extortion racket but they were always illegal but the jews got a legal extortion racket going!

  7. Well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    There's nothing terribly GNU/Linuxy about this story.

  8. Re:first post! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    Hey w00t! ANothre Gnetoo user??!??? whaddup, buddy???! wahts ur AOL number??!??

    Gentoo is the rul0x0r!!!!!!!! w00000t!!!!

  9. Re:proprietary formats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Troll

    "people are stuck with a proprietary evil"

    Shut the FUCK up, you pathetic little whiner-boy! No one wants to hear your snivelling 'OSS at all costs' pedantic effluent.

  10. Re:Real Player? vs. Helix Player by Curtman · · Score: 1, Troll

    RealPlayer 10, coming this summer, adds non-open source components like RealAudio, RealVideo, MP3, Flash, etc. to the Helix Player

    So.. What does it do? Its a player with no codecs of its own? Its a YAMP? The exciting things in open source media these days are OGM, OGG, Theora, Matroska, and MPlayer's upcoming NUT container. I remember a lot of hype about Helix, but I have to say I'm much less than impressed with the player from Real as it stands. Helix sounds like a huge improvement over that, but that's like saying herpes is better than prostate cancer.

    But then again, I have no idea what I'm talking about. ;)

  11. Re:Still waiting for open video... by LucidityZero · · Score: 0, Troll

    What difference does that really make? The Ogg Vorbis audio format sucks.

    I'm not trolling here. You can check my karma and previous posts if you'd like. I'm all about open standards.

    However, if the Ogg Vorbis video codec is going to be anywhere near the quality of their audio codec, I won't use it.

    Before you mark me as a troll, encode something at 320kbps in Ogg and in 320kbps using LAME, and tell me that the difference isn't so amazing you'd wonder why you ever used ogg in the first place. (Besides the fact that it's totally open. That IS a major selling point.)

    I guess the main point here is that we shouldn't be sitting here relying on "The Ogg Vorbis" people or the like to bring us something open. Why aren't we working on changing the general attitude towards these things, so even better codecs are developed open in the first place?

    Don't place a band-aid on the wound. Stop it from happening in the first place.

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  12. We are allowed to listen to our own music! by the+Slashbot · · Score: -1, Troll

    Yes, we should be allowed to listen to our own music, that we downloaded off Kazaa. How dare anyone try to stop us. It is on our computer now, so therefore it is ours.

    And by not paying, I am helping the artists. No I will not explain how that works, it is so obvious you must be a stupid luser for not seeing it.

    TurboLinux is about making money, which is not very GNU/Linuxy. As a matter of fact, it is evil and you will burn in hell if you want to sell your software for money. You should make money off support services.

    And as for M$, we should boycott any business that uses M$ products, as their soul has been sold to the Dark Lord. Every second you spend in front of a GUI part of your GNU/life force disappears.

  13. Re:Linux is here! by Not+The+Real+Me · · Score: 0, Troll

    Either way, WMV codecs stink.

    Try skipping around in a video. WMV will hang 6/10 times -- especially on videos that use lower bitrates.

    You can skip around in MPG just fine.
    AVI's (i.e. DivX encoded for example), as long as you've got reasonable keyframes, you can skip around a movie/video all you want and it works great.

    Even without DRM, WMV is a rotten codec.

  14. Re:Getting rid of DRM? by redshift520 · · Score: 0, Troll

    Riiiiiiiggggghhhhht... that's what we do... make numerous copies of our own music and movie files.

    Lord all mighty... this got old many moons ago. "I make copies of music/movies i've purchased outright". Alright... maybe you do mr/mrs oneinamillion. Dance around the bush all you want, there really is an issue of PIRATING out there. One which you are defending no matter how eliquently you word it. Blind extremes to either side of an argument are never good.