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High-Temp Superconducting Tape

DrLudicrous writes "The NYTimes is running a little overview of the current state of mass produced superconducting materials. A company named Superpower (another blurb on them here) is making a layered superconducting tape out of ceramic materials- ceramics that are high-temperature superconductors (no resistance at liquid nitrogen temperatures, 77K). This is much cheaper to maintain than technologies based on superconducting metals, which tend to require liquid helium (~4 Kelvin) temperatures. A note of contention: the article mentions that superconductivity is not well understood -- high-temperature superconductors are not, but classical 'low-temperature' superconductors are well-described under the Bardeen-Cooper-Schrieffer (BCS) theory."

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  1. Still only liquid nitrogen temps? by dankjones · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Man! We had that when I was in high school (late `80's)

    Looks like room temperature superconductivity is impossible. Have we made any progress in new superconducting materials in the last 15 years?

  2. Super Conduction by Arngautr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    That floating magnet experiment/demonstration they describe is one of the coolest physics phenomena I've witnessed, for those without subscriptions you chill the superconductor below its critical temperature and place a small magnet with high magnetic field strength to mass ratio above the superconductor and it floats or sits in mid air spining slightly, pretty cool to see.

    This article is low on actual content, it fails to even mention what the Tc is for this tape. The highest Tc I'm aware of is in the 130K while room temperature is on the order of 300K. If we can find materials with high enough Tc and without bad qualities it will revolutionize the world, imagine an electric motor with near zero resistance, unfortunately it could be used for evil too.

  3. High Tc Superconductivity explained by Goldsmith · · Score: 3, Interesting

    High Tc superconductivity actaully has the begginings of a good theory to explain it.

    In BCS theory, electrons interact with phonons (lattice vibrations) to coordinate into pairs and form bosons.

    In much the same way, electrons in high Tc superconductors interact with spin waves in an antiferromagnetic material to coordinate into pairs and form bosons.

    An antiferromagnetic material is one where the magnetic moments of neighboring atoms are opposite

    up down up down up down up down up

    You could imagine trying to move the middle electron over one position (trade with the electron to its right):

    up down up down down up up down up

    Now our magnetic order is screwed up, and this defect can propogate:

    up down down up down up down up up

    Each pair of "up up" or "down down" next to eachother is a spin wave, which is a boson, with a spin of 1.

    Of course, really proving this theoretically is much harder, I don't think it's been done in 3D.

  4. Re:For what? by barawn · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Interesting. Is copper really that expensive?

    Yes, actually. It's about $20-25/kAm right now.

    But it's the recurring cost that's a big deal: at kiloampere levels, the power burned off by copper resistance starts to become more expensive than the cost of cooling. Since superconductors have strictly zero resistance, the cooling cost is fixed as the current scales, whereas it's linear in copper. At some point it becomes more economical.

    The problem with high-Tc superconductors is that they have a current limit as well, and it's quite moderate, so the scale isn't quite there yet, when you work out all of the factors involved.

    There are other reasons to switch, though: simply physical size: in Detroit, where they're replacing copper with superconducting cable in a few areas, they're replacing 18,000 pounds of copper with 250 pounds of superconductor - they replaced 9 cables with 3, and left 6 empty cable lines. This gives them 3 times the energy capacity without having to dig new cable lines at all.

    The capacity issue is really what's been driving cities to replace them, though - digging new power lines, especially in cities, is simply ludicrously expensive, and so any option to replace with higher capacity lines without digging is a win.

    So yes, really, they will replace copper with superconductors ... and they have, actually. Copenhagen was the first, if memory serves. All of them quoted the capacity increase without digging as being the main reason. Per kA, it's probably more expensive, but the costs savings from not digging will probably make it cheaper over the lifetime of the cable.