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Earthlings: Ugly Bags of Mostly Water

darthcamaro writes "Earthlings Ugly Bags of Mostly Water is the name of a new documentary film - starring Worf (aka Michael Dorn)about Klingon language and culture. They've got a weird website too. 'Earthlings: Ugly Bags of Mostly Water' captures the lives, passions and quirks of the members of the Klingon Language Institute during their annual qep'a' (conference). The film's producers issued a press release about it today with some interesting quotes... 'The perspective of Michael Dorn, the world's most recognized Klingon, provides both serious and comedic elements to the project,' said Earthlings Director Alexandre Philippe. 'This is a man who embodies all the elements of a Klingon warrior: honor, respect, ferocity. For years, Klingon fans have looked to the Worf character for their education in Klingon culture.' Quaplah! /. !!"

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  1. No by EpsCylonB · · Score: 4, Insightful

    'Earthlings: Ugly Bags of Mostly Water' captures the lives, passions and quirks of the members of the Klingon Language Institute during their annual qep'a' (conference).

    I'm sorry but it's people like this that give science fiction a bad name.

    1. Re:No by SubliminalLove · · Score: 5, Insightful

      On the contrary, it's people who take sci-fi as more than mere entertainment who give the genre it's amazing power. Consider those dreamers, many obsessed in their adolescence with worlds beyond any possibility, who thirty years later orchestrated the landing of a human being on the surface of the Moon. True fans of science fiction, who see the futures portrayed therein as possibilities waiting to be unlocked rather than foolhardy dreams, are our pilgrims into the future. As odd as they might seem, they are an incredibly valuable portion of our species.

    2. Re:No by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Of course not. Neil is a very brave and very famous rocket jockey. He was a test pilot who just broke an altitude record. He is not a geek. The geeks stayed on the ground and made sure he didn't go boom.

    3. Re:No by teeker · · Score: 4, Insightful

      True fans of science fiction, who see the futures portrayed therein as possibilities waiting to be unlocked rather than foolhardy dreams, are our pilgrims into the future.

      True, those people definitely exist, however most hardcore sci-fi fans aren't inspired visionaries....they're just plain old dorks. ;-)

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    4. Re:No by kaisyain · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is only true if the people who dress up at Sci-Fi conventions or go to Klingon Language Institute gatherings actual comprise a sizable percentage of the scientists who make the kinds of achievements you talk about. I've seen nothing to suggest this might be the case. Certainly many scientists are fans of science fiction. But the OP wasn't just about sci-fi fans. It was about a particular kind of sci-fi fan who makes the whole genre look bad.

      I would wager that not very many members of the Mars Pathfinder team dress us as Klingons. A "true" science fiction fan is not defined as "someone who learns Klingon". I don't know why you seem to implicitly assume that the people being discussed are the pilgrims to the future.

    5. Re:No by NanoGator · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "I'm sorry but it's people like this that give science fiction a bad name."

      Worse is when the people say "It wasn't a Klingon that called people ugly bags of mostly water!"

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  2. Makes you wonder... by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What percentage of water are Klingons?

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  3. Starting to understand by 0racle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm really beginning to understand why so many people consider Star Trek fans just a bunch of dorks.

    Now as such, why did they name it this, the title has nothing to do with Klingons at all.

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    1. Re:Starting to understand by 0racle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Where an alien life form that lived a few centimeters under the sand of a planet the Federation was in the process of terraforming began to fight back. They refered to everyone they talked to as an "Ugly bag of mostly water." Once again, why did they choose this name, which has nothing to do with Klingons.

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  4. Scary by N8F8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm pretty sure this is how religions get started.

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  5. Odd... by radicalskeptic · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Was it the Klingons who referred to humans as "ugly bags of mostly water"? I was under the impression it was those weird crystal things from the episode Home Soil.

    http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php? showtopic=927368&st=120 (search for "ugly", it is at the bottom of the page)

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    1. Re:Odd... by Tyler+Durden · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Exactly. Klingons are probably water-based as well. The title makes no sense.

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    2. Re:Odd... by ivanmarsh · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No kidding! What's the Klingon word for: Non Sequitur?

  6. Mirror , just in case by mirror_dude · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Hi their, just in case things go sidewise as it were I have put up a mirror.
    The mirror of http://www.earthlings-movie.com/ is at http://mirrorit.demonmoo.com/r_7/www.earthlings-mo vie.com/
    The mirror of http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT= 104&STORY=/www/story/04-30-2004/0002163991&EDA TE= is at http://mirrorit.demonmoo.com/r_7/www.prnewswire.co m/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/04- 30-2004/0002163991&EDATE=

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  7. Re:Ahead geek factor 6 by JabberWokky · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I would say that the top five or ten most recognized detectives are all fictional (starting out with Sherlock Holmes). Telly Savalis's Kojack and Peter Falk's Columbo are up there on the list.

    Recognition of an actor as a famous or 'most recognized' "something" is not confusing the fact that they are actors. It's merely shortcutting the phrase "{character}, as portrayed by {actor}, is the most recognized {type of character}. When people think of {actor}, they think of {type of character}, and if you think of a {type of character}, you think of {character} as portrayed by {actor}."

    If you think of "Vampire Slayer", you are likely thinking of one of five actors who portrayed them. Probably one of two characters (Van Helsing or Buffy).

    It doesn't mean any of it is real... but "recognized" is a slippery term when dealing with fiction.

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  8. Re:Say this once... by Paulrothrock · · Score: 1, Insightful

    We know it's a TV show. Real life just sucks. Make real life better, and maybe we'll live in it.

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  9. Re:Does anyone have the Klingon translation... by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Gotta love people who hang out on a site subtitled "news for nerds" ripping on other people for how geeky they are.

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  10. people like this by moviepig.com · · Score: 3, Insightful
    ...it's people like this that give science fiction a bad name.

    "People like this" are society's excluded. And they (we?) will always exist because society will always exclude. And they'll find places to gather that are, well, exclusive.

    Among the current crop of such places, Planet Klingon's not so bad.

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    1. Re:people like this by -kertrats- · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Honestly...there is no 'Planet Klingon'. The Klingon homeworld is known as qo'nos (pronounced 'Kronos'). Your nerd license is hereby revoked.

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  11. Re:I wonder what is spoken more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The serious answer is that if you are looking for fluent speakers, you will find more Esperantists. I also noticed that the Klingon Language Institute has an Esperanto introduction whereas no Klingon speakers have done a similar page for the Universala Esperanto-Asocio. That says something about the relative availability of translators for the two languages.

  12. Re:I wonder what is spoken more by HeghmoH · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Esperanto FAQ claims that Esperanto is spoken by roughly the same number of people as Latvian or Hebrew, i.e. enough people to fill a smallish middle-eastern or eastern-european country. Klingon is probably way behind. It's not exactly an impartial source, though.

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  13. Re:Why the title? by Experiment+626 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I thought the choice was rather odd too. In the original context, a creature made of rock calls humans "ugly bags of mostly water", and it makes sense, because compared to a rock, we are. Coming from a Klingon, however, who are carbon-based humanoids like us and appear to have a similar level of water content in their tissue to humans, the phrase is very out of place.

  14. Re:Does anyone have the Klingon translation... by mandolin · · Score: 2, Insightful
    There's nerdy, and then there's nerdy. Good Lord.

    ..which is just another way of saying "perception is relative".

    The "klingons" probably look down on roleplayers.. or those idiots who camp out at the new Star Wars premieres.. or those 50-year-old guys who dress as Sailor Moon (yeah, I read machall).. or -- heaven forbid -- linux weenies.

    In fact, somebody out there thinks you are the lowest of the low, and ya know what? Fuck 'em.

  15. Re:Only Constructed Language from Popular Culture? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Tolkien was also a very noted antiquarian scholar. He wrote ground-breaking essays on Old English, Proto-Germanic, and both Brythonic and Goidelic Celtic tongues.

    Finally, I highly doubt Tolkien intended for grown men to feverishly obssess over his creation. Rather, Elvish was more like an academic excercize intended to more fully flesh out the world he created.

    Summary: Tolkien was a brilliant scholar and craftsman. Klingons have no such artistic vision and are living in their parents' basement.