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Jens Of Sweden MP3 Player With OLED, Ogg

rune-bare-rune writes "Gadget manufacturer Jens of Sweden launches a nice-looking MP3 player with an unusual OLED display that doubles as a mirror. Supports MP3, WMA and OGG Vorbis. And as a few other really small players it handles the USB connection nicely."

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  1. Re:What's with the marketing? by Scutter · · Score: 2, Informative

    Surely most people will want to see pictures of the product, not some silly Flash animation

    I hate waiting for flash animations to load, but in this case, the flash animations *are* the pictures you're looking for.

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  2. Likely to be pretty expensive by phatsharpie · · Score: 4, Informative

    Hammacher Schlemmer, the listed reseller of Jens of Sweden's product in the US, has one of the older models - the MP110 - for $249.95 with 256MB of storage.

    http://www.hammacher.com/publish/70549.asp?promo =e l_audio

    I would think this model, the MP130, would be at least as expensive, but likely more.

    -B

    1. Re:Likely to be pretty expensive by irokitt · · Score: 2, Informative

      $219.95 USD at Outward Sound. There are only two places to buy the thing in the US though-there and at Hammacher Schlemmer, like you mentioned. Definitely a very appealing toy, but I know *I* don't have $220 lying around right now.

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  3. Re:USB 1.1? by phoenix.bam! · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, they could have called it USB 2.0 FULL SPEED. Not high speed. High speed IS 480mbps, full speed is 12mbps or something

  4. Re:Strange thing I noticed... by Dun+Malg · · Score: 2, Informative
    It's got to be an overlay - otherwise, you'd see a camera in the reflection.

    Only if the person was actually lookin' at theyself in the mirror. If the person looking into the mirror is seeing a reflection of the camera, it'd look like the picture. They do it in movies all the time.

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  5. Re:USB 1.1? by Tweaker_Phreaker · · Score: 3, Informative

    There's hardly any reason for them to use USB 2.0 because most compact flash cards can't transfer above USB 1.1 speeds. A 12x compact flash card transfers at 14.4 mbps which is just barely over USB 1.1's limit.

  6. Not made in sweden. by shikra · · Score: 4, Informative

    Would be good if the player is actually made and designed in Sweden. Too bad it's not. Fact is, the flash-based MP3 player market is largely dominated by the koreans.

  7. Re:Yeah, but... by Chmarr · · Score: 3, Informative

    It probably DOES work, but you need to tell linux that a 'vendor 1234, device 2345' (or whatever it is) needs to be activated with the usb-flash driver.

    Dinking around with the ID/Driver database generally solves my 'compatibilty' problems. Even with modern kernels, unless the company, or a fan of the device, decides to submit the mapping to the linux project, it'll remain 'apparently' incompatible.

  8. It Ain't Vapor; It's IOPS by kjoonlee · · Score: 4, Informative

    IOPS players have been on sale in Korea for some time now.

  9. Close, but not quite. by kjoonlee · · Score: 3, Informative

    Tell me what you see here: IOPS

  10. Yes, it will work. by kjoonlee · · Score: 3, Informative

    It will work with Linux 2.4+, according to the manufacturer.

  11. Re:USB 1.1? by RedWizzard · · Score: 4, Informative

    You are way out of date. I use a Transcend 256MB 30x CF card with my camera and it transfers several times quicker over a USB2 connection than a USB1 connection. I bought it 9 months ago, today Transcend's cards are 45x. Kingston's Elite Pro range transfer at 5.2MB per second, well over 3 times USB1.1's 12Mbps. SanDisk's Ultra II CF cards claim a minimum sustained write speed of 9MBps. That's megabytes not megabits.

  12. Re:OLED == OEL by ajlitt · · Score: 3, Informative

    OLED implies a thin-film organic LED. If it's an LED, I expect a device that behaves like a P-N junction and operates at low voltages like a standard silicon or other inorganic LED. Organic Electroluminescent is totally different. OEL is a monolithic material that fluoresces under high voltages and low currents. OEL is what is used for backlights for many portable devices and is ultimately not as efficient as OLED (because of the HV stepup) and does not have as easily a tunable color range as OLED.

    So who told you that they were the same thing, huh?

  13. Re:SanDisk ultra II by GoRK · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you were actually using a PCMCIA 16 bit adaptor then it's likely that you couldn't reach near 9MB/s anyway. PIO 16 bit with no buffering (there probably isn't any in your CF PCMCIA adaptor) is going to be slow as heck. The connection you get is akin to pre-UDMA hard drives. The maximum theoretical speed on 16 bit PCMCIA is 33MB/s (the same as ISA) and using PIO (since you don't get DMA using this for IDE) there is only going to be half of that (16.5MB/s) available to transfer data. Without any ram to buffer the IO you are likely going to drop your performance below what the card is even capable of.

    Try your benchmark again with an IDECF adaptor plugged directly into a drive controller (or IDE/Firewire bridge if you are limited to the laptop) and see if it makes a difference. It ought to!

  14. True, OLED==OEL by kjoonlee · · Score: 4, Informative

    The IEC TC 110 WG/4 recently agreed in April 2004 to call them all OLED now. Here's a news report, in Korean. I can't find any links in English though.

  15. 520mAh vs 2200mAh by zudark · · Score: 2, Informative

    The capacity difference between the two cells is not
    as large as the Amp-hour rating would seem to indicate.
    Li-ion cells operate at about 3.6 volts, while NiMH cells
    operate at about 1.2. Thus, assuming constant voltage
    during discharge and zero internal resistance (incorrect,
    but it makes this easier), you can calculate capacities of:

    1.2V * 2.2Ah = 9.5kJ for the AA cell and
    3.6V * .53Ah = 6.7kJ for the Li-Ion cell.

    Given the higher energy density per mass of Li-Ion
    cells and the form factor flexibility ditching the
    AA provides, this seems like a good tradeoff.

  16. jenz of sweden does NOT create mp3players by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    note that jenz of sweden does not create any mp3players at all: they just buy mp3players from asia and put the "jenz of sweden" logo on it.

  17. Re:Looks like... by evil_tamarind · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sorry but the JoS MP-130 is actually a rebranded IOPS MPF-350 (from the MPF-300 series)

  18. Re:You are almost certainly right by CyberDruid · · Score: 3, Informative

    Jens of Sweden has never developed any technology of it's own. Their game is to rebrand other manufacturers mp3-players and make the exterior look somewhat better. I don't have the energy to find a link, but this is common knowledge.

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  19. Rebranded crap. by nordicfrost · · Score: 2, Informative

    Why is it that the "design labels" of our days have the need for rebranding of far eastern goods? As someone already pointed out in this tread, this is a rebranded Iops player.

    I remember Bang & Olufsen when they launched their failed cellphone series. It was just a rebranded Ericsson phone, in three more colors at twice the price. My guess is that todays consumers are too vary of these things and JoS will fail unless they cooperate and innovate like certain other companies.

    The absolutely worst case of rebranding ever was the North Korean government: They bought / stole severeal Huyndai cars and rebranded them (illegaly) as their own brand. Everybody outside NK understood what was going on, but this was a publicity stunt for their own people to convince them that NK had an up to date booming car industry.

  20. Re:Yeah, but... by jhdsl · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, I have a JOS, MP100. It just comes up as an USB hard drive, so it is a no brainer to get it to work on Linux. The bad part is that firware upgrade can only be done from MS Windows, not even Mac.

  21. Looks Like The Muzio - OLED Is Rubbish! by Jakeg · · Score: 2, Informative

    This player is extremley similar to my Muzio (www.muzio.co.kr) player, which also has an OLED display (in fact, Jens one looks like the same one running on slightly updated software). Same button combination too. The Muzio is great - 512MB memory, line-in, direct MP3 encoding, FM radio, voice recording. BUT big drawback - the OLED display is shockingly bad. You can hardly see it at all, when at full brightness, in bright sunlight. Very annoying. Apart from this, I'd recommend the Muzio, but the Jen looks more stylish... and you get a free mirror!!!

    1. Re:Looks Like The Muzio - OLED Is Rubbish! by oneiron · · Score: 2, Informative

      My experience with OLED is exactly opposite. I have a phone (LG VX6000) with an external OLED display, and it is brighter and more readable than any other type of display I have yet seen in any light.

  22. Re:OGG Players' Killer App by cozziewozzie · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yeah, but most people don't encode their music to OGG. They download MP3s/WMAs/whatever and put them on their players.

    You do understand that transcoding from MP3 to OGG means absolutely shitty quality regardless on what bitrate you use? The result is always worse than what you started with.

  23. More specs from press release by viktor · · Score: 2, Informative

    Specs from the press release (which is only available in nordic languages it seems):

    • File formats: MP3, WMA, ASF, OGG
    • Built in FM radio
    • Entirely graphical 96x64mm OLED screen in red and orange
    • Alarm
    • Clock
    • Customers can import jpeg:s and create their own screen savers
    • 18 hours play time minimum
    • Foldable USB port
    • 13 + 13 mW output
    • SRS, TRUBASS and other sound enhancing effects
    • Line in which records to WMA or MP3
    • Size 79.5 x 31.0 x 14.8mm, weight 43g.
    • 128, 256 and 512 MB models

    The recommended prices are SEK 1795/2495/3295, which translates to very roughly $240/$330/$430.

  24. MPIO FL-100 Has A Mirror by N8F8 · · Score: 2, Informative

    The MPIO FL-100 already havea mirrored surface. You can also but the FL-100 at your favorite retail outlet. No USB port though. But it does have some Linux support

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  25. Jens of Sweden MP-300 is made by Korean Nextway by i4u · · Score: 3, Informative