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Microsoft Drops Next-Generation Security Project [updated]

grooveFX points to this CRN article which starts "After a year of tackling the Windows security nightmare, Microsoft has killed its Next-Generation Secure Computing Base (NGSCB) project and later this year plans to detail a revised security plan for Longhorn, the next major version of Windows, company executives said..." grooveFX writes "Glad to see they actually listen to the gripes from the media and users." Update: 05/05 19:13 GMT by T : phil reed writes "Oops. According to this article on Microsoft Watch, Microsoft really isn't giving up on NGSCB (aka 'Palladium') after all. Microsoft spent much of Day 2 of its Windows Hardware Engineering Conference (WinHEC) here refuting a published report claiming the company has axed its Next Generation Secure Computing Base (NGSCB) security technology."

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  1. Next goal for Microsoft by Neil+Blender · · Score: 5, Funny

    If this goes well, they plan to cancel all security projects.

    1. Re:Next goal for Microsoft by Tackhead · · Score: 3, Funny
      > If this goes well, they plan to cancel all security projects.

      How would anyone notice?

    2. Re:Next goal for Microsoft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      That's different than now, how?

    3. Re:Next goal for Microsoft by MarkGriz · · Score: 5, Funny

      Great. Perhaps now they can focus on *this generation* security projects.

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    4. Re:Next goal for Microsoft by Phenris+Wolfe · · Score: 2, Funny
      Win2003 is already more secure than most Linux distros, and its far more useful.

      Flame war in 5....4....3....2....1....

  2. Cancelling security? What next? by AtariAmarok · · Score: 2, Funny

    They have cancelled security? What next? Will Microsoft stop supporting Linux? Oh no!

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    1. Re:Cancelling security? What next? by AtariAmarok · · Score: 2, Funny
      "WIndows on Linux is a much greater threat than you think"

      Can you imagine the prospect of SCO receiving $699 for each installation of Windows???

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  3. Next Gen? by daeley · · Score: 4, Funny

    Their Next Generation security project was doomed from the start once Lore kidnapped Data and took his place in the landing party.

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  4. And it's already rumored... by tunabomber · · Score: 4, Funny

    ..that the "revised security plan" will make heavy use of the recent advances in obscurity technology.

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  5. What? by baudilus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Microsoft has security projects?

    1. Re:What? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 1, Funny

      Microsoft has security projects?

      Of course. Have you ever tried to enter the Microsoft premises at night without telling the guards? if you had, I bet you'd still have evidences of their security on your butt, in the form of a big german shepherd's bitemark...

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  6. Definition of trusted computing by AtariAmarok · · Score: 5, Funny
    From dictionary.com definition of trust: "A combination of firms or corporations for the purpose of reducing competition and controlling prices throughout a business or an industry."

    Trusted computing, therefore, facilitates reduction of competition.

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  7. Re:Security != Trusted Computing? by Neil+Blender · · Score: 2, Funny

    They changed their logo. Now it's just 'Computing'.

  8. In conjunction by razmaspaz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft also lowered the hardware requireements for longhorn from 2x4ghz procs to a single 1ghz proc, citing the decrease in complexity of drm will free up much of the needed processing power.

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  9. The security feature we need is... by potus98 · · Score: 5, Funny
    "Though Microsoft plans to use the NGSCB "compartmentalizing" technology in future versions of Windows, the company is moving swiftly to support No Execute (NX) security technology in newer AMD and Intel processors. NX reduces memory buffer overruns that many hackers exploit to insert malicious code into Windows and allows developers to mark pages as nonexecutable. "

    What we need is "No Executive" security technology. Even the greatest security tools can be hogswaddled by the pointy hair types.

    [/obligitory upper-management jab]

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  10. Re:A few suggestions by sunwukong · · Score: 5, Funny

    Like the airlines think Saftey, Saftey, Saftey - Microsoft need to adopt the slogan.. Security Security Security

    And some sort of chant -- maybe a dance ...

  11. Re:A few suggestions by Soko · · Score: 4, Funny

    Like the airlines think Saftey, Saftey, Saftey - Microsoft need to adopt the slogan.. Security Security Security

    Let's hope they get past "developers developers developers"...

    Soko

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  12. Re:A few suggestions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Handy Travel Hint: avoid flying on any airline whose motto is "Saftey, Saftey, Saftey"

  13. The witch is dead.... by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Funny

    The witch is dead, but will likely by replaced by an ogre or a kraken.

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  14. Re:Palladium by segfault7375 · · Score: 5, Funny

    This could be the start of "Say something nice about Microsoft day!"

    That kind of talk will get you banned from Slashdot :)

  15. I Dreamed This! by bfg9000 · · Score: 5, Funny

    In a recent interview with WinEvil.com, Gates confirmed, "Yeah, it [the NGSCB] just wasn't eeeevil enough for us. We've got a history of setting the evilbar pretty high, and our current efforts were "extremely irritating" at best... We're looking for true unadulterated mindbending evil, and we know our customers won't settle for anything less. Give us a chance -- you won't be disappointed."

    Gates then proceeded to use a Windows XP CDRom as a prism to magnify his own inner evil until it was focused enough to melt a cute puppy, drawing appreciative applause from the crowd of evildoers. The crowd then had a huge WindowsXP InstallFest and cut off their own testicles in preparation for the comet Zurg's arrival to take them away.

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  16. Can we be serious for a second by Prince+Vegeta+SSJ4 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Microsoft has killed its Next-Generation Secure Computing Base (NGSCB) project

    The'll just insert a coupon with Longhorn saying that users will get the Free Security upgrade when Half Life 2 ships, or when someone believes the 'free beer - tomorrow" sign, whichever comes first

    Like they ever had a security project in the first place

  17. Right... The new plan is this... by feloneous+cat · · Score: 2, Funny

    (In MS Meeting Room 30 feet below Earth's surface)

    PHG (pointy hair guy): Right. We killed the old plan.
    MSGurus: Hooray!
    PHG: Everyone gets a bonus.
    MSGurus: Hooray!
    PHG: We have a better plan.
    MSGurus: Hooray... we think.
    PHG: Because we spent so much time and money on the old plan...
    MSGurus: Booooo!
    PHG: We have to implement the new time in a fraction of the time. Bill thinks six weeks is plenty. Meeting adjourned.

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  18. Re:A few suggestions by Progman3K · · Score: 2, Funny

    >Like the airlines think Saftey, Saftey, Saftey - Microsoft need to adopt the slogan.. Security Security Security

    I thought Microsoft's slogan was

    "Developers developers developers" ?
    http://www.ntk.net/media/developers.mpg

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  19. Re:RTFA by spectral · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not knowing spanish (and, like the stupid American I am, automatically assuming it IS spanish), how do you pronounce Juarez? If Juan is essentually pronounced with the ju becoming a 'w', is his name 'warez'?

  20. It's because they gave up. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 3, Funny

    Problem is, people (particularly Windows users) buy features before they buy security.

    IMHO that's because Windows users have given up on getting security. B-)

    With a choice of an insecure platform with fewer features or an insecure platform with more, of course they'll pick the one with more. Just think: They might actually be able to get something done between crashes, infections, and reinstalls.

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  21. no, MS security plans have now leaked by swschrad · · Score: 4, Funny

    they plan to provide DRM kits to script kiddies so all viruses are signed, and thus acceptable to Windows.

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  22. Re:How are they going to name their DRM next time? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    How are they going to name their DRM next time?
    They'll name it BATLAM -- Bend over And Take it Like A Man...
  23. Re:A few suggestions by AnonymousKev · · Score: 2, Funny

    A Safety Dance? Hold onto your hats!.

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  24. Secure XP boxes for sale! by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Tigerdirect is selling what they claim to be "The Next Level of Computer Security for Your Home or Office". I think their definition of computer security may be a bit different than yours or mine however, as one of the major selling points is a "-110 decibel siren to sound alarm and scare off intruders". Imagine that bad boy going off every time the machine is violated by the Windows worm de jour! ;)

  25. Re:NGSCB NOT a security project. by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    They're just renaming it again. The new name will consist entirely of characters from an obscure font containing only symbols that have no pronounceable names to make sure no one will be able to talk about it.

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  26. kernel.... by lexluther · · Score: 2, Funny

    The nexus was to be the kernel of an isolated software stack that was designed to run inside the standard Windows environment.

    I believe they will be using Kernel version 2.6.14 for maximum security.