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Comcast Plans Cable Boxes with Integrated Wi-Fi and Snooping

Kaa writes "Short version: Comcast's cable modem/802.11g base station that is made by Linksys has capabilities to 'phone home' to Comcast and tell them how many devices are connected to your WiFi base station, how much bandwidth they are using, etc. It also has the capability to 'disable LAN segments' which, I assume, means they can kick your devices off your home network if they choose to do so. Something tells me this particular device won't make it into my house..."

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  1. This is a product for the lusers... by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sure, the /. user won't want this in their house...

    But the user who is too dumb to configure WiFi without Comcast's help needs this. This technology could let Comcast's techs lock down any access point who's not running WEP, and see to it that all the devices the customer has are taking their DHCP assignments properly. Of course, anybody reading this will know how to do these administrative tasks on their own, but those who are clueless can have trust Comcast configure their router and firewall to optimal settings.

    If this cuts down the number of worm-vunerable computers on the Internet by letting those who don't know what they're doing hand the controls over to Comcast, I won't complain.

    1. Re:This is a product for the lusers... by the_mad_poster · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yea, you won't complain until Comcast won't give you service unless you have "compliant" hardware. It's a big potential benefit to Comcast's bottom line, and the "lusers" aren't going to know enough to try and kill it. Do you think they'll give a crap if you want it or not?

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    2. Re:This is a product for the lusers... by gabbarbhai · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Umm.. If you trust them enough, sure. What's to stop them from analyzing your work habits/surfing habits, and start pumping specific ads to the devices, or worse?
      I wouldn't let comcast, of all people, to administer my computers. Nor would anyone else want to, no matter how technically-alternatively-enabled.. And there might be (I don't know) some products specifically designed to keep your computers patched properly (no, NOT M$SFT) that one might want to subscribe to separately, with proper disclosures and agreements signed.

    3. Re:This is a product for the lusers... by the_mad_poster · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I can't use just any old modem I want for Adelphia. It has to provide certain *ahem* "features" that let them do some level of snooping. Of course, this is all in the name of helping me troubleshoot my connection.... yea.. sure... depsite the fact that they've never successfully found a problem remotely...

      They can't make you use any specific modem, but they CAN mandate that your modem must have certain "features" and "standards" under the guise of helping you out. Then, they can push that this tech gets standardized and start requiring it for new connections.

      Never underestimate the power of a monopoly to get it's way when it comes to raping consumers.

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    4. Re:This is a product for the lusers... by DrEldarion · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I wouldn't let comcast, of all people, to administer my computers. Nor would anyone else want to, no matter how technically-alternatively-enabled..

      I'm sure you'd be surprised how many "technically-alternatively-enabled" people would jump at the chance to have Comcast administer their computers.

      I'm not saying that it would be in their best interests, but if you're clueless about computers, a well-known company offering to take care of everything for you is something you'd squeal in glee about.

      In fact, I'd imagine that a significant portion of computer-illiterates would give FULL control of their computer to any well-known company (say, MS) if the company put enough marketing spin on it ("Imagine having all your computer problems fixed with one call! We'll even do it all for you, you just sit back and relax!")

  2. I'm out. by Schezar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm done with consumer/residential broadband. Blocked ports, slow connections, poor customer service, arbitrary limitations on use... It's just not worth it anymore. I've dealt with dead lines and clueless techs for too long.

    Instead, I'm springing for commercial/business class service. The support is better, the speeds are higher, and the service is usually excellent (since businesses won't put up with the same garbage residential users will).

    Consider this: a cable modem usually costs about $40-$50 a month for residential service including a single IP address and bandwidth caps. I can get 1536k x 256k commercial DSL for about $80 a month that includes web hosting, DNS, and 5 IP addresses. The extra $40 is not much, and you can offset that by selling access to your neighbor if you're so inclined (perfectly ok with most providers).

    The above costs about as much as most people pay for a cable modem and cable TV, and quite frankly, I've found that lots of bandwidth is far more entertaining than lots of TV stations.

    I'd list some companies that offer comparable service plans, but I don't want to look like an astroturfer. Hit Google and you'll find lots of nice options (as long as you live somewhere civilized ^_~)

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    1. Re:I'm out. by Minwee · · Score: 5, Interesting
      "I'm so angry at my ISP that I'm going to give them even more money so maybe they will provide the kind of service I was supposed to be getting in the first place."

      I think you're their kind of customer. How much more will you cough up when they start screwing with your "business class" service?

  3. Re:Huh? by ciroknight · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well in theory this technology could be good if they only charged you for the bandwidth you actually pulled through your modem, but they could do this without their level of snooping.

    My guess is that they just want more control over your modems, making sure that there's no way you can modify the bandwidth you use (uncapping), automatically updating firmware ([[could be good: block certain ports during a virus emergency]]), etc etc etc... but the fact still remains: they could do all of this from their side of the network.

    So really, you have to question what they're going to do with this..

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  4. Buy this, and they'll raise your speed cap... by LostCluster · · Score: 3, Interesting

    From the press release...
    Users who sign up for the service can receive a Linksys wireless gateway, along with network adapters for connecting up to five computers, professional installation, multiple levels of security, and increased downstream speed of up to 4Mbps.

    Comcast's current peak downstream bandwidth for most customers is 3 Mbps. So, so far Comcast is actually offering to tweak upwards the bandwidth of people who pay for this service.

    Of course, I've rarely found a website (other than my own) that actually feeds me data at a speed that's anywhere near 3 Mbps, so that extra space within 3 to 4 Mbps is rarely going to be used. Still, if you are somebody who frequenly maxes out the downstream on a Comcast modem, this might be of interest to you.

  5. Re:Speakeasy by Creepy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yeah - I did the same.

    Speakeasy even allows you to sell wi-fi net access to your neighbors and gives you a 50% discount to run it and provide the support. I wonder what they'd do if I paid my neighbor $20 monthly to do this, tho - thus decreasing my net cost from $90 to $65 and giving him access for free :P

  6. Re:Smoothwall by gujo-odori · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just to clarify, what I mean by "doesn't fluctuate at all" is I have all my bandwidth, all the time. I downloaded the 4 GB DVD image of the latest Fedora Core 2, and it was solid at 240 kbps, give or take just a few kbps, from start to finish.

    My dad has standard Roadrunner consumer service, and while I have seen speeds on his network far higher than mine (sometimes over 400 kbps, and often over 350, during off-peak hours), I have also seen speeds far lower.

    While I suppose I could live with fluctuation (I've never seen a speed below 100 kbps down on his network, and even that is rare), I do also like having a global static IP and no restrictions (save those imposed by law) on what I do with my connection.

  7. Re:Smoothwall by brsmith4 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There is something seriously wrong if you are paying for business class and only getting 240Kbps. I have regular plain-jane RR and get 366kbps constantly. Perhaps you should use that schnazy support to resolve that problem because for 90 bucks, it is a serious problem.