Videogame Character Threatens National Security?
Watchful Babbler writes "Apparently, 'the lead item on the government's daily threat matrix one day last April' was clear and definite: a reclusive millionaire had formed a terrorist group with the intent of launching chemical weapons attacks on Western cities. The White House was notified and the Director of the FBI briefed as the government raced to find information. But then, according to USNews.com, a White House staffer decided to Google for information on suspected threat Don Emilio Fulci and found him -- in a video game - Sega's action title Headhunter. No word on exactly which sources and methods came up with this gem, but word in the E Ring is that Fulci had issued the cryptic warning, 'You have no chance to survive make your time'."
... or is terrorism winning?
It certainly feels like evey time we get a false positive we panic.
If the US can so call intelligence community can be fooled into sending out alerts based on a Sega game how hard can it be fore AlQuda to send out false threats to yo-yo with the servalince. Since all this does is tell real people to do things sooner or later they will get tired and ignore the warnings thus allowing for a real threat to go further then it would without the DOS attack. I mean the terrorist aholes should start scaring people left and right, force the threat level up and down. How much risk is there to leak false intelligance.. then not follow through. Sooner or later we will get fed up, let our guard down and whamo they get a free ride. Jebus I really should wash my gray hat its looking darker and darker every day.
I don't see how so many of you conclude that the government doesn't know a real threat from a video game character. A threat can crop up in any one of a gazillion ways. Once made, they have to verify threats before they take them seriously. They did. They determined it was a video game character.
How else does it work? Magic? When a threat comes in, they use telepathic powers to determine that any given name is a real one and not a video game character? A quick google isn't to everyone's liking?
Dumbasses.
I'd be more afraid if the government weren't incompetent.
OK they recieved a tip that certainly, if true would be extremely serious, so they took it seriously and this makes you paranoid? It's good to know that our government takes threats seriously until they can be proven not to be serious, as in this case. Makes you lose sleep? well it makes me sleep better.
Could it be that you are all being had? Did anyone here bother to cross-examine the validity of this story or do any research? I guess when Slashdotters take things on faith they *must* be right because, well, that's just how the world works. Facts are facts because they fulfill our wildest fantasies.
*sigh*
As a sidenote, I don't know any french, but the first paragraphs are still pretty easy to understand: "Headhunter est donc un Metal Gear-like (ou un jeu d'action infiltration, si vous preferez) edité par Sega." (ok, 'Metal Gear-like' might not be french)
The alternative is to eliminate nonsense threats, like videogame villains, before they top the threat matrix. That's what security professionals do. Apparently not what the BushCo incompetents do. You trusted them on September 11, 2001, you trust them now, don't be surprised when you get screwed again.
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Of a very knee-jerk reaction to security here in the US
Knee-jerk in what way? I don't remember Fulci being placed at the top of the Most Wanted List. Was there an APB put out for him? Did Bush get in front of the microphones and say we had a new, greater, enemy in the war on terror? No, some nutjob phoned in a "tip", and after it went through various channels someone discovered it was a hoax. It happens all the time, nothing to see here, move along.
God invented whiskey so the Irish would not rule the world.
+1, Ironic. You claim the government is overreacting by shouting in hysterics because someone phoned in a hoax tip which was subsequently proven to be a hoax and dropped. Go outside, take a breath of fresh air, and relax for pity's sake.
God invented whiskey so the Irish would not rule the world.
You do realize that it was never a question of if Iraq had WMD's or not. The world saw him use them, for cryin out loud. The only question that remains is what he did with them. He was supposed to show the world proof that he destroyed the weapons. That never happened.
"The defense of freedom requires the advance of freedom" - George W Bush
From the (extremely brief) article it sounds like the system put in place to evaluate threats worked. A potential threat was identified somehow, then dismissed once it was turned out to be a nonthreat. Its not like any action beyond evaluation was taken. Even if the "potential threat" in this case was a videogame character, I would prefer to have a human being make that call then let some automated search engine do the screening based on some rules. Whatever automated system they are using is probably only designed to identify potential threats, not evaluate them.
No, the questions were:
1. Does Iraq have weapons of mass destruction that can be used against the United States?
2. Is Iraq planning to use those weapons?
As is plainly evident, even to the man the Bush Administration hired to find the weapons couldn't find them, and I've seen no document saying that Iraq was planning an attack.
I think we all remember Colin Powell circling some stuff on a map, and then holding up a vial saying, "They have this here." Well, where the did "here" go?
What about North Korea? They actually have a nuclear program, and a dictator who has directly threatened the US. What about Saudi Arabia, where 15 of the 19 hijackers came from, and home to bin Laden and many terrorist organizations funded by the Saudi Government?
Bush doesn't have any balls. He'll attack a country that has virtually no defense (Afghanistan) or a country that we've been bombing for 10 years (Iraq), but not so much as cut diplomatic ties with the nation that 80% of the 911 terrorists originated from (Saudi Arabia).
I don't think Bush is evil, but he is incompetent and short sighted. Not too great of a choice for President.
Yeah, those sound like objective, non-politically motivated quotes. I have it on good sources that:
"mozumder cannot tell the difference between a qualitative analysis, and something that was taken out of a book designed to slam bush."
"Muzumder is alltogether willing to abandon common sense, and accept that bush doesn't know anything at all about the rather broad topic of 'policy'"
"Muzumder has an axe to grind, but uses a very soft stone. Consequently, he ends up looking like a jackass."
Just because someone said something, even if it was in print, does not make it so. I never liked Clinton, in fact, I was one of the haters, but I never did anything so foolish as to suggest he was going to suspend national elections, like so many tinfoil hat conservatives did. Why? Because the idea is preposterous on the face of it. Is bush an eloquent speaker? Clearly he is not. Do you believe for one second that he does not have any knowledge of anything that could fall under the heading "policy"? If so, you are the fool, not bush. For an administration to contain a cabinet as diverse in opinion as his does, yet to not consider diverse viewpoints would be rather self-defeating, wouldn't it?
Observation of the Polical scene requires thought, and examination. Quotes from the preface of a book whose entire purpose is to slam Bush do not qualify for the former, nor the latter. Dunce cap for you slappy.
"Inattention makes clowns of us all" -Bean
Slightly offtopic but coincides with this thread: that was (as we could guess) a hoax. Ix-nay on the +4 formative-innay. /. sig says, we're citizens, not consumers, and I'm a little disappointed that people would reward such a company for finely polished attempts at mind control like the ones it satirized by buying into their product.
Viral marketing like the "Beta-7.com" campaign is SO FSCKING ANNOYING.
You can picture these balding, gray-suited marketing executives sitting around the Table of the Round going "hey! having an Internet site about our product will make people buy it!". In fact all they manage to do is remind us that nothing you read on the Interweb is trustworthy - which is a fine postmodernist lesson - but I don't appreciate being treated as a commodity.
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We recently had heard in the office over one of the Yellow Machine that's made by Anthology Solutions.
History shows that war on any common noun does not go well. Where are we with the war on drugs? How's that war on poverty going?
For a war to really get traction and be effect it needs to be against a Person or Place, not just a Thing.
Back on the subject, information by it's very definition is measured by it's surprise. The approach taken by the TIA should really be called the "Total Data Awareness." They think that by viewing massive quantities of the ordinary will reveal the extraordinary.
They forget that databases can't file the extraordinary. All of the tips, leads, and missed clues were people noticing that something didn't jive, something didn't fit. Computers can't do that. At least not unaided.
"Learning is not compulsory... neither is survival."
--Dr.W.Edwards Deming
Google Search: "Don Fulci" Results 1 - 10 of about 81 for "Don Fulci".
PSXNATION: Run by a crack team of hardcore gamers.
NTSC-uk review > Dreamcast > Headhunter
GamePartisan.com | Sony | Review
etc...
I am glad that the man in charge of protecting our national security DOES have the balls to act when necessary.
... "No, It's because I de-prioritized counter-terrorism efforts. Bin Ladin has nothing to do with it. In fact I'm in the process of dismantling existing intelligence gathering efforts. For example, I cancelled the investigation on the USS Cole and forced that nosy FBI agent to come home. We booted his ass and he works at the World Trade Center now."
.... WE'RE UNDER ATTACK!!!!! Either that, or big balled dummy knew and was VERY PLEASED.
Yeah, hindsight is 20/20. But memos titled "Bin Ladin determined to strike in the US" tend to elicit some activity. It could generate a question like, "Hey Ashcroft, is this the reason you only fly private charter now????"
Ascroft's response of course would be
The President's Response: "I thought I told you to shut down all those investigations against my old Bin Ladin buddies. You know them and my daddy go way back. They're really ticked that some of our agents are trying to shut down their charities. Make sure that money keeps flowing. It's how they fund their little brother Osama."
Condaleeza Rice: "Mr President, would you like me to read the report to you again????"
President: "No. 11 pages is way too long. Make sure you redact it so if I have to remember it again, it will only be two pages. Just cut out the nine in the middle. Yeah, and get Dick on the phone. I have to figure out how the Iraq war plan is going. Did we end up giving most the oil to Exxon or Shell????"
Of course, the morning of 9/11 your beloved hero was very vigilant in protecting our nation. He knew about the diverted planes BEFORE he left the hotel. He knew about the first strike BEFORE he went into the classroom. A reporter asked him if he knew what was going on in New York, he responded "Yeah, I saw that on TV, that was a pretty bad pilot".
Tick, tock, tick, tock, buzzzz. You can see the engine creaking inside the presidents mind. But he doesn't put two and two together. In fact, along the line he must have issued an order for the Air Force to STAND DOWN. Otherwise, all the jets would have been INTERCEPTED as per standard operating procedure (Google Payne Stewart Plane Crash).
Big ball, no brain Bush goes into a classroom and sits on his ass reading to 2nd graders while our nation it under attack. Than, he is informed that a SECOND plane hits the World Trade Center. Big dummy still hasn't figured it out
Nevertheless, big balled dummey sits in a classroom for another 15 minutes and finishes the goat story. It's so rare that the President is among his intellectual peers. I'm sure he relishes those precious moments.
OK big balled dummy, what do we do. Do you rescind your stand down order that prevented planes from scrambling. Nope, not yet. Plane #3 hasn't struck yet. Don't believe the lies. Do you seriously believe that planes capable of travelling 1500 miles an hour stationed just outside the capital would be unable to intercept the Pentagon airliner????????
Are we stupid??? Is the military this utterly inept???? I don't believe so. If they were, the Soviets would have leveled our nation a LONG time ago.
After all the stupidity on the morning of 9/11, the President makes a brave call to "authorize" shooting down the Pennsylvania plane. How brave he is since he could have prevented the fall of WTC 1, as well as saving the lives of people in the Pentagon. Had he not issued a stand down warning, he could have saved WTC 1 as well.
Who knows, he might have even prevented WTC 7 from mysteriously imploding for no apparent reason.
On to Afghanistan. Does Bush have the Balls to see the Afghan campaign through???? Does he have the balls to put large numbers of boots on the ground to catch his old family friend Osama Bin Ladin??????
Nope. Bush is more concerned with Saddam Hussein. He was obsessed from day one.
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Okay, to take my theory that we got trolled a little bit further for those who didn't bother to at least stop and think about it.
There are a couple of a problems with this kind of story:
1.) It's very sensational and funny. Something you woudln't expect to happen but 'did'.
2.) It's only being carried by ONE news site. Something this humorous and blunderous that has such far reaching claims of incompotency in our intelligence departments should have made bigger news. Why didn't it? The other news agencies did not or could not collaborate it. Either it's true and was successfully burried or it never happened.
3.) There are little to no details about why/how this made it to the top of the "terror threat matrix." One anonymous tip? Come on, as much as it's funny to think that our intelligence departments are stupid, do you really believe they're THAT stupid?
4.) Why did finding the name in a game have any bearing on whether this person was a threat? The FBI didn't drop their case against Cap'n Crunch when they found out he was just a cereal advertising cartoon character, did they?
I'd expect to be reading this in an e-mail titled "Fw: Fw: Fw: Fw: Fw: Fw: Fw: Fw: Fw: Re: Game character plots terror attack against USA." Not on slashdot. We should be the experts on trolling, not the ones to feed it.
Jamon.
Btw, Someone needs to remind these moderators that moderation is not for making your opinion heard or making the oponents opinion heard, it's to promote easily reading discussion on the topic without having to sift through trolls, flaimbait, and offtopic posts. And I urge anyone who meta-moderates to help us clear out people who abuse the moderation system as a way to filter their opinions upon everyone else.
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