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A Raft Of New Products From Sony Japan

my1wong writes "Sony Japan has launched a DoVaio campaign which features a lot of new stuff. ... Main new stuff included wide screen notebooks ( E series), multimedia desktop replacement ( A Series), long-awaited evolution update to the ultra small U101, and this time it's a tablet indeed ( U series). Last but not least, the expected challenger to iPod, it's called VAIO pocket, VGF-AP1. All very sexy... Guess Sony has been woken up by Apple's success with iPods and Powerbooks."

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  1. Video by sheriff_p · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It looks like their iPod clone has some funky screen on it - is that a video player of some description?

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  2. Very Sexy by Moblaster · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Except for the proprietary ATRAC format killing of your poor MP3 world.

    Ever notice that if you choose Sony, everything seems to work really well with if it is also from Sony? In their hardwary kind of way, they are getting as hegemonous as the big M.

    1. Re:Very Sexy by flewp · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I've never had any problems with my Sony Minidisc player and it using ATRAC.

      I actually think it's a good thing Sony focuses on making their products work together. Sure, you might get locked into owning nothing but Sony, but I've never had problems with Sony hardware and everything works together nicely. Now, if they focus on making crappy products and leave you with no alternative, then you have a problem.

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    2. Re:Very Sexy by Albanach · · Score: 4, Interesting
      ooking at the specs it also plays MP3 files. Given my Sony Clie also plays both formats that's exactly what I'd expect, and doesn't lock me in.

      Sure Sony ties you to Sony, but so does every manufacturer in some way. Still, there's a huge convenience factor to keeping files on my memory stick, popping it out and into my Clie when on the move or into my Vaio at my desk. Take some pictures on my Sony Digital Camera, pop out the stick and straight into the front of my desktop. Everything works and some people are willing to pay the premium for the convenience. Apple also built a brand around that concept.

      Don't like it? Then Sony's not the brand for you.

  3. OQO's response? by FrenZon · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I wonder what OQO's response to the U70 will be? The U70 is totally capable of acting as a desktop system as well, whereas the OQO was kind of underpowered in the same role.

    Anyway, as a consumer annoyed by its vapourware status, I just have to say "IN YOUR FACE, OQO!"

  4. Not-so-attractive by antic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm all for competition and for things looking desirable. But I have to admit that I was a bit disappointed with the two products I checked out (the tablet and the iPod-competitor), especially considering that Sony have a pretty decent reputation for product design.

    I own an Archos Jukebox from a couple of years back. It's not the most attractive device. More recently (when I was passing through Singapore and Hong Kong) I got to see and hold the new Archos devices and they are a vast improvement.

    From Sony, with a substantial budget and existing stable of industrial designers, I expected a lot more. The buttons are an absolutely crucial component of a device's usability and appearance, and I don't think these two products really stand out. I have an iPod 40GB (thinking of selling it because I don't really need it; but the design and usability is excellent) and it's a very attractive object. I guess I expected Sony to challenge that a little more -- to provide more competition.

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  5. First thought on the VAIO pocket, VGF-AP1: by burgburgburg · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Bumpy
    (that would be the G-Sense instead of the flywheel).

    Second thought after viewing feature intro:
    Why horizontal instead of vertical and are color album cover icons a good usage of space/processing? Especially if it doesn't have Firewire.

    Third thought after seeing more features:

    Why are these the only approved OSs:
    Windows XP Professional/Windows XP Home Edition/ Windows 2000 Professional/Windows Millennium Edition/ Windows 98 Second Edition

  6. Isn't Hi-MD one of the iPod killers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Isn't sony's line of Hi-MD players, found here their first line at hitting the iPod?

    I mean, even though a disc only stores 1 gig, I'd take removable media with $7/disc cost, ability to double capacity of old minidiscs, and a very long (minidisc standard) battery life over the iPod. This of course all before we even compare the cost of the units.

  7. Tablets by wpiman · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Well- if my partial reading of partial Japanese is correct, the tablets are not laptop replacements.

    When will some company take a decent processor and throw it into a tablet? I used a Fujitsu tablet the other week and loved it. It makes alot of sense to me to be able to flip the thing over and read like a book. Great for kicking back and reading datasheets. Now, if it just had some gusto- I could put a bunch of design tools on it.

    It is all Japanese to me.

  8. Re:Regarding the user interface... by slim · · Score: 2, Interesting

    25+ buttons? Do they not know that people like(d) the ipod for ease of use, amongst other things?

    I've thought a lot about the iPod UI, and it's neither as easy nor as powerful as I would have liked. I wrote this about it.

    Most of what I'd like fixed would be easier to do with a couple more buttons. 25 does seem a little excessive however...

  9. Cool desktop by the+quick+brown+fox · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Check out the VGC-RAxx desktops... pretty slick looking. Looks like there is some crazy cooling scheme going on too, with air intake slots in the middle of the chassis and a heatpipe CPU cooler; check out these pics.

  10. Guess why Apple is king by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Industrial design is just so difficult.

    How many ugly little stickers adorn your laptop when you take it out of the box? Three? Four?

    And LED indicator lights on laptops that shine right into your eyes? That's just plain daft. My clamshell iBook has zero battery/HD indicator lights, just one that is on when it's asleep... and it pulses. There is a little ring around the hole which you plug in the AC connector, to the laptop. When the power's on, again, no harsh lights. They've made the side of the laptop a little transparent so you can see the green/orange tone.

    Even the connector (the old one, circa clamshell iBook) has been carefully designed (it looks a bit like a flying saucer), not one of those black fugly things that may have come with your laptop.

    ID is about thoughtful detail. And Apple is the holy grail of industrial design. It isn't just because they've got a technically talented bunch of designers. So do Sony. It's because of the tiny little things that have been done, all the little details, touch sensitive buttons, slot-drives, lights that don't shine into your eyes (like the very bright ones on my mom's NEC that they put just below the LCD screen!), lights, etc.

    All factors equal, little things like this are going to help Apple prevail over Sony in the end.

  11. Sony laptop support by n8ur · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have a Vaio laptop (don't remember the number, but 700MHz PIII in the slimline case with external CD and floppy). It's a really nice machine, but when I went to replace the hard disk I discovered something: Sony tech support is useless. The only thing their hardware support page tells you is where to send the machine back. No service documentation available, and no spare parts.

    Contrast this with IBM, where you can download PDFs with full disassembly instructions and parts lists. You can order parts from IBM for reasonable prices, and they show up in a couple of days. They're actually *helpful* on the phone -- I bought a refurbed Thinkpad that had a European keyboard, and they cheerully talked me through finding the US replacement.

    Can't tell you if other vendors are as good as IBM, but I can tell you that if you plan to touch the hardware at all, avoid Sony like the plague.

  12. VAIO Pocket's new interface by amichalo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The VAIO Pocket Interface (play movie to view in action) does not seem very good to me.

    For those who won't watch the above link, there is a grid of 5x5 'buttons' you run your finger up and down, left to right to simulate scrolling and navigating menu levels. The problem is, what if you want to go down more and you run out of buttons because you initially positioned your finger wrong? Maybe you can just pick your finger up, but I would think it easier to use the touchpad a la notebooks (and what Apple derived for the iPod) that we have been used to using for years.

    There is also a rather large color screen whcih looks like a nice power drain to me, especailly when the thing is playing in my pocket, displaying a color albumn cover.

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  13. Frankly, Sony are really starting to shit me... by B747SP · · Score: 3, Interesting
    It's nice to see new gadgets, sure, but this new products every few months thing is a real PITA from a commercial point of view. I've been caught out by Sony several times in the last few months... I buy a laptop or a projector or a tape recorder or something for someone at work. A month later, someone comes to me and says "I need a tape recorder" so I say "Go and check out what Bill got, and if you like it, I'll get you one. When I go to Sony and say "Giz another one of those", they do what is effectively the old bait-n-switch... "Sorry Sir, that product has been discontinued, but we have this new model, only $100 extra".

    They've done it to me with a tape recorder and a laptop in the last couple of weeks. Numerous other crap before. It's reaching the point where I'm discouraging folks from choosing Sony, 'cos they can't even keep stock of a product for the lifetime of their 'Sony Style' magazine/catalog thing that they have here in Australia.

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  14. Re:One Vaio problem... by vondo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I won't get into "Why worry about the $30 you're spending for Windows" and just say that, in my experience, Vaio's are not the easiest/best to install linux on. My latest excercise was an R505 with the "Docking" platform that attaches to the laptop via Firewire. A nice little machine, but very difficult to get everything working with Linux. (Mandrake, actually, which has good hardware detection). I used another Vaio before that, and that one was not a snap either, from the Linux perspective.

  15. Re:Sony Vaio Pocket VGF-AP1 vs iPod by mr+i+want+to+go+home · · Score: 2, Interesting
    You say "not much smaller" - but what is your reference. That whole centimeter taller & those few mills wider and thicker will actually be quite noticable.

    For example the original iPod was 1.8cm deep - the new ones feel like they're half the thickness.

    I'm sure some people won't mind, but really - it's much bigger, and much heavier (all things being relative).

  16. Sony is doomed by hidflect · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I worked in Sony here in Japan. Every division except movies and PS2 is running at a loss. They have NO new ideas and the morale there is rock bottom. Everyone hates the President as an arrogant a*hole. 5 years from now they won't exist. It's goodbye Sony. They'll be bought out soon after they lose enough money... How many Sony appliances have YOU bought in the last 8 years? Not enough to keep them solvent.