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The Ultimate All-In-One Storage Solution

karnifex writes "Filled up your LaCie Bigger Disk already, and looking for a little more storage space? Good news! The Petabox is ready! 'The petabox by the Internet Archive is a machine designed to safely store and process one petabyte of information (a petabyte is a million gigabytes).' And luckily, as the Internet Archive notes, it's shipping-container friendly (20' x 8' x 8'). So save on delivery costs and order two!"

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  1. Finally by foidulus · · Score: 4, Funny

    My million monkeys at a million terminals will have somewher to save all their potential Shakespeare works.
    But the question is, do my monkeys use VI or Emacs? That shall remain a mystery.

    1. Re:Finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, seeing as how monkeys type random gibberish,
      vi would seem like a perfect fit, yes?

    2. Re:Finally by foidulus · · Score: 5, Funny

      A British researcher actually did trap some monkeys inside a room with a computer for a couple days. They flung large amounts of feces at the monitor and keyboard and beat the living crap out of the box, and typed the letter s a lot. Sounds like the response of a typical user upon their first vi experience.

    3. Re:Finally by MaxiCat_42 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sounds like the beginnings of Titus Andronicus.

    4. Re:Finally by cfl · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I just use this:

      Monkey Shakespeare Simulator

      Maybe not as much fun, but without the faeces
      I've noticed that Mozilla Firefox seems to give better results than IE

  2. I'd buy one.... by david_reese · · Score: 5, Funny
    but I heard that all you can store on there are
    ...drumroll

    Peta-files

    1. Re:I'd buy one.... by Smidge204 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I heard the FBI managed to squeeze 1000 of these into their annual budget...

      Exa-Files.
      =simdge=

  3. Petabox is ready! by KevinKnSC · · Score: 5, Informative
    Good news! The Petabox is ready!

    From the article:
    PILOT STATUS 5/2004
    * The first 100TB Rack is up and running!
    * The second 100TB Rack will be up by the end of May

    Apparently this is some new use of the word "ready" with which I am not familiar. Neat technology, no doubt, but it doesn't really look like it's ready for prime time just yet.

  4. In 10 years ... by Bob+Loblaw · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Will we find one of these things in eBay in 10 years selling for $10 and feel all nostalgic about those days when that amount of storage media was the size of a room?

    1. Re:In 10 years ... by DrEldarion · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It does make you nostalgic thinking about things like that. I have more storage on a tiny card in my digital camera right now than every computer in the computer lab at my Jr. High had combined. My cell phone is more powerful than my first desktop computer. I can download in 5 minutes what would have taken me a month to download back then. Ah, technology.

  5. To give you an idea of how much that truly is: by Three+Headed+Man · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you gave me a 100 mbit line, it would take me over 92 days to fill it up with porn. More if I slept.

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    1. Re:To give you an idea of how much that truly is: by ecampbel · · Score: 4, Informative

      You're off by a factor of ten. Let google do the math: 1 petabyte / 100 megabits / second in days = 994.205393 days

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  6. Re:colossal... by foidulus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Don't just stop at songs! Store the DNA sequences for the spice girls on it, such that years from now our decendants may know the joys of Scary Spice.

  7. Potential customers by thedillybar · · Score: 4, Funny
    "After extensive market analysis, we have found 1 (one) organization that is interested in purchasing this device."

    Can we say, Goooooooooooooooogle?

    1. Re:Potential customers by moosesocks · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I believe that back in the 50s, the president of IBM enthusastically proclaimed that there was potentially a worldwide market for four, possibly even five computers. And this was good news.

      So don't laugh!

      (I'm sure there are PLENTY of organizations which could use this type of storage. The IRS and NASA being among them)

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    2. Re:Potential customers by lewp · · Score: 4, Funny

      NASA just uses an alien with a really good memory to store all their data. The IRS doesn't store any data at all. They just make shit up on the fly.

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  8. Ohh Good, now I can buy Longhorn by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 4, Funny

    Though it says Linux is the standard OS, I'm hoping they plan on optimizing for Longhorn... so far this is the only system out that can meet Longhorns recommended disk capacity and RAM requirements. ...now if they could only find a way to fit all that into a mini-ATX tower.

  9. two words by Loconut1389 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Good God.

    or alternatively

    What for?

    At least as far as the next year or two is concerned. RIAA has all but outlawed music on the computer and even so, a petabyte of $1.25 songs would cost you more than bill gates makes in a year. If you have a petabyte of home movies, you must be making porno films.. If you have a petabyte of DVD's ripped, you have several life sentences coming, even if you own all the dvd's somehow (more bill gates salary multiples). And if you have text files, then holy grapes batman, youll never read all that in 10 lifetimes.

    I can see uses in the comercial realm, buying multiple units in order to backup. But if this is in anyway marketed toward the consumer, only the biggest 'mine has to be bigger than yours' geek would buy something like that right now. I'll probably have one of those on my desk/floor about 5 to 7 years from now when its affordable/realisitic for me.

    1. Re:two words by pbox · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Assuming 2 layered disks that is 10 GB per disk (feeling generous).
      100 disk -> 1 TB
      15000 disks -> 150 TB.

      Netflix has a "mere" collection of 15000 disks. Your patebyte disk is only 1/6th full.

      You upload all music CDs: 1 GB per disk (feeling generous).

      How many CDs can be in print? Maybe a 500,000?

      That is only 500 TB. Now your disk is 2/3rd full.

      Lets upload all printed material. May or may not fit in the rest.

      Then again, if you want to archive the internet: ~6G pages. 10kB each. 60 TB. each run. Store the last 16 versions -> 1TB.

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  10. Not really a Petabyte...yet by Berylium · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From the site:

    PILOT STATUS 5/2004
    * The first 100TB Rack is up and running!
    * The second 100TB Rack will be up by the end of May
    * Thermal Targets have been met
    * Systems Booted from USB Dongle
    * Reiser FS running
    * PC-based Router running


    Maybe I'm missing something but this looks to me like they don't really have a Petabyte of storage working but plans to incorporate a Petabyte of storage with only 100 TB up and running now. Not that 100 TB is anything to brush off.

  11. one petabyte? by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Funny

    one petabyte ought to be good enough for anybody

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  12. To bad it won't last... by gremlins · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know the pull is to get these things as big as you can get but i would love to see hard drives that will work for ever. Now I know everything breaks but I mean in 400 years how is anyone going to know what we were like if all the data on us slowly goes away because the hard drives or the cds don't really last very long

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    1. Re:To bad it won't last... by Tailhook · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...but I mean in 400 years how is anyone going to know what we were like...

      What tiny fraction of our history is actually preserved in a useful manner will be misinterpreted and spun in ways you can't possibly imagine. 400 years from now you will be known as an ignorant fool guilty of untold crimes against lord knows whom. This will be true regardless of the quality of the archive used to figure you out.

      So don't worry about it.

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  13. Re:wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    After extensive market research, it has been determined that a "buttload" is roughly 3.5 gigabytes.

    In case you were wondering.

    It's my favorite unit of measure.

    Coincidentally, I have a buttload of porn.

  14. Useless Statistics! by INMCM · · Score: 5, Funny

    1 MILLION GIGS! BAH! That isn't news unless they convert it to some entirely inappropiate metric. How many Library of Congresses is this? How many 128kbps MP3s can you store on it. And most importantly, how many floppy disks is this equivalent too?!

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    1. Re:Useless Statistics! by isorox · · Score: 5, Informative

      How many Library of Congresses is this?

      50

      How many 128kbps MP3s can you store on it.

      250-300 million depending on song length

      And most importantly, how many floppy disks is this equivalent too?!

      700 Million - nearly 40,000 miles when laid end on end, or about 1500 miles when stacked on top of each other.

    2. Re:Useless Statistics! by IntelliTubbie · · Score: 4, Informative

      How many 128kbps MP3s can you store on it.

      Glad you asked. Assuming that we have a 10^15 byte disk (which is how those decimal-loving hard disk manufacturers would define it), and your MP3s are encoded at 128kbps (where 1 kb = 1024 b = 128 B, as the binary folks would have it), then you could listen to MP3s nonstop for:

      10^15B/(128kb/s * 128B/kb) = 61035156250 seconds ... which works out to just about 1934 years without hearing the same song twice.

      Cheers,
      IT

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    3. Re:Useless Statistics! by aboyko · · Score: 4, Interesting

      How many Library of Congresses is this?

      50

      Oh, it isn't, either. Will you people knock it off already with the Library of Congress == 20TB comparison? It's some sort of inane computation made as if the collection were only books, and all the books were represented as ASCII text only. Well, guess what? It's not, and they're not.

      American Memory alone is a good bunch of terabytes, and that's just a wee digitized slice, just several million objects, of all the stuff in the Library. There's a lot. Of Stuff. A lot a lot a lot. Pictures. Maps. Movies. Big ol' stuff.

      Well, I feel better. Thanks!

  15. Re:Price? by RollingThunder · · Score: 4, Informative

    In the "discussion" blocks down below there's a price link.

    Rack materials cost is currently estimated to be $121K for 96TB. Node materials are a just under $1450. This price does not include markup, assembly or burn-in from the system integrator and thus will increase by another 5-7% to approximately $130K/rack.

    The weight of a fully-loaded rack is estimated to be 1500 lbs. That figure may rise depending on what hardware is required for rack cooling.

    Power is estimated to be 5500 watts. This too will depend on rack level cooling equipment.

    These figures assume no external 1G Ethernet NICs.

    For a breakdown of all the above, see the attached spreadsheet.

  16. Re:Don't get too excited by danormsby · · Score: 4, Funny

    Almost a Petabit though.

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  17. I can see the office manager now... by stienman · · Score: 4, Funny

    Office manager: "Hey, Adam, do you know why our power usage might have gone up this last month?"

    I surreptitiously conceal the firewire cable going out the side door.

    Adam: "No, John, I haven't the foggiest."

    OM: "Ok, well I'll ask Kim when I talk to her about the strange shipping container outside. Thanks."

    -Adam

  18. Immortality? by Sir+Nimrod · · Score: 5, Funny

    In his novel 3001 Arthur C. Clarke asserted/speculated that one petabyte would be sufficient space to store a lifetime's memories. (He didn't say if this was compressed.)

    So, assuming you can handle the trivial exercise of transferring your memories (the implementation of which is left as an exercise for the reader), immortality is yours for the buying!

    1. Transfer memories to Petabox. Sign with your public key, so everyone knows it's you. Don't encrypt!
    2. Put Petabox in shipping container, along with retrieval instructions in English, Esperanto, and Chinese (to cover your bases).
    3. Bury shipping container in Yucca Mountain. (It's unlikely to ever see any nuclear waste, and it'd be a shame to waste the space.)
    4. Kill yourself.
    5. Wait for a society (a) advanced enough to restore you and (b) rich enough to bother.
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    1. Re:Immortality? by theLOUDroom · · Score: 4, Funny

      Transfer memories to Petabox. Sign with your public key, so everyone knows it's you. Don't encrypt!

      Don't encrypt! Ye gods man!
      I don't know about you, but I have a few things I wouldn't like people to know about, even long after I'm dead.
      I mean, let's face it, not all our memories are that flattering.

      And anyways, I'm pretty sure some of the memories from my college years are already "encrypted".

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  19. Interesting link... by Noryungi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's right there under the pictures :

    http://capricorn-tech.com/

    The site is rather empty right now, but it seems this is the company that will market this petabyte machine... er... box... er... whatever the name is.

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  20. Re:wrong by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Everyone I know says giga with a hard G. The only exception I know of is Christopher Lloyd's character in Back To The Future.

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  21. actually... by MarcoAtWork · · Score: 4, Funny

    given that monkeys have basically four hands I think they'd be more suited for emacs (alt-meta-control-super-hyper-shift-q) than vi ;-)

    I have been using emacs for nearly 10 years now and I swear sometimes I have been seriously considering adding a foot pedal or 2 to my setup (besides control, shift and meta I also routinely use Super and Hyper, xmodmap is great!)

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  22. Re:colossal... by glwtta · · Score: 4, Informative
    Store the DNA sequences for the spice girls on it, such that years from now our decendants may know the joys of Scary Spice.

    The current genome build has a size of 3,020,300,000 bp, at 2 bits per bp and 5(?) spice girls, that's about 3.5 GB (uncompressed).

    Of course with a mostly static database like that you only want to store the diffs, not the whole thing. The bulk of the diff would be SNPs, roughly 1 per 1000 bp: 3,020,300,000 / 1000 / 4 / 1048576 that's about 0.72MB per spice girl. An if you only store the ones actually different from wildtype you probably don't need more than 20% of that.

    You can fit a Spice Girl on a floppy.

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  23. Scientific Data by Scott+Ransom · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm heavily involved in a 5-6 year project to use the Arecibo telescope to search for new pulsars. The project uses a new 7-beam receiver system, each of which takes data from up to 1024 nearby frequency channels. The data is 16-bit sampled over 15000 times per second from each frequency channel. We need the time and frequency resolution to find exotic millisecond pulsars.

    Over the couse of the survey we expect to take about 1 PB of data. We're still trying to figure out exactly how we will process and store it all.

    For more info, you can poke around here.

  24. WTF? by imag0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you gave me a 100 mbit line, it would take me over 92 days to fill it up with porn. More if I slept.

    yeah, but if you looked closer, it's the same 6 gigs over and over again.

  25. Petabox? BAH - GMAIL! by Compulawyer · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm just gonna get 1,000,000 free Gmail addresses and email all my data to myself 1 Gb at a time.

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  26. Re:colossal... by iminplaya · · Score: 4, Funny

    You can fit a Spice Girl on a floppy.

    Or, you can fit two floppies on a Spice Girl
    "Sock it to me."

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  27. If you're a big fan of this much storage? by stox · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does that make you a petaphile?

    [massive karma burn detected]

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