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Toronto Open Source Conference Report

derrickoswald writes "Today's Ottawa Citizen is running a report in the TechWeekly section on the recent open source conference in Toronto organized by U of T's interdisciplinary Knowledge Media Design Institute and last month's Real World Linux trade show. It highlights the extremely poor Extremadura region of Spain's success story using open source to bootstrap themselves technologically. Quotes from FOSS luminaries include: 'Who controls the software, controls life. Well, it had better us. That's the real political meaning of the free software movement,' said Eben Moglen. Open source 'was the default way you built Internet Infrastructure. You wrote code and released it without trying to commercialize and monetize it,' said Brian Behldendorf." Newsforge (also part of OSDN) has a series of reports on the conference: Day 1, Day 2, Day 3.

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  1. PowerPoint? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    PowerPoint was required
    Behlendorf led off with a comment that he is not used to PowerPoint -- the presentation software of choice for the conference, which is running Windows XP -- and apologized in advance if the PowerPoint requirement caused him to slip up, because he said he is used to the OpenOffice.org variant of the software.

    Any idea why PowerPoint/XP were chosen in the first place, seeing as it's an OpenSource conference?

    1. Re:PowerPoint? by Emunix · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yeah... all of our conference spaces at U of T are equipped with XP and PowerPoint and I doubt our techs were going to bother switching for the conference when they'll need to load XP and PowerPoint again for summer section professors who are used to PowerPoint.

  2. Who controls the software, controls life by Timesprout · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That might be true for a small number of of obsessed geeks but the majority of people dont give a monkeys about who controls software. To them its just another product and their interest ends as soon as they have finished reading their email or their computer controlled car tells them it needs an oil change.

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  3. Gasp... by carvalhao · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am Portuguese and am currently working with a Spanish colleague who was falbbergasted when he read about the "extremely poor region of Extremadura". Hey, it looks like we're talking about sub-saarian Africa of something!

    As a matter of fact, Spain is one of the best developed economies in the European Union. There may be some regions where e-development may not have reached somewhat high standards, but hold on! :)

  4. My Guess... by TamMan2000 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... is that the facility hosting the conferance had computers and projectors in all of the conference rooms already...

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  5. "Extremely Poor" Extremadura? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Oh man, I'm sure the average salary of a resident of the Extremadura province is still higher than someone living in Arkansas.

    Spain is not a third-world country. It's one of the wealthiest nations in the world. Which is way the terrorists hate it.

    1. Re:"Extremely Poor" Extremadura? by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not knocking Spain (I lived there 3 years and LOVE it), but with an average income ~70% of the EU average, and Extremadura being the poorest region of Spain, and unemployment running at near 30%, 'extremely poor' might well be a valid descriptor.

      However, they did win a 2004 European Regional Action Award with their GNU/LinEX project.

      Hopefully, more projects like this will help them boost their economy.

  6. Heh. Not. by brunes69 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Computer software *does* control your life.

    For the vast majority of people in inddustrialized countries, softwate controls how they get paid, how the bank maanges their money, how companies track their habits, how they buy goods and services, how their cars work, how *they* work, how they get to work, how they have fun, how they communicate. It controls nearly every piec eof equipment in the modern military. Getting through a day without interacting with a piece of software is near impossible unless you're on a caomping trip in the middle of the woods.

    Pretty soon, software is going to be controlling your whole household. It's going to control every applianc ein the house. It's going to control your security system. It's going to control all communications in and out of that house, and it will all be unified.

    So here is the doomsday scenario - in 25-30 years, when this is all in place, if one monopoly controls all this software, they *control society*. All they have to do is hide some backdoors well enough to slip through detection and they have it made. Who would be there to stop them? Anyone who spoke out on any public forum is automatically detected and flagged as a terrorist in the national database.

    Open Source software, especially for anything at the national infastructure / military level, should be *paramount* on people's mids. The only reason it is not is an educational one. Us people in the know really need to get the word out on why this is important, because as software becomes mroe powerful, we're treading downa slippery slope.

  7. Wow by Curtman · · Score: 4, Interesting
    • Free software -- software that can be freely copied, modified, and re-distributed by its users (and often software which is free of charge) -- is inextricably bound with personal freedom, the loftiest speakers say.


    I'm shocked. Printed media that actually described free software properly. Props to Ottawa Citizen.
  8. Whoa by Short+Circuit · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Matusow went on to make a point about Red Hat's corporate Linux licensing, saying that Red Hat has a per-CPU licensing scheme with an auditing clause in the contract, and that client companies could not modify the (GPL'd) code for risk mitigation reasons on Red Hat's part.

    Either that's a "damn lie," or Red Hat has some explaining to do on the part of restricting GPL'd code.

  9. Quotes on "controlling" things by Apostata · · Score: 3, Informative

    'Who controls the software, controls life.' - Eben Moglen

    'He who controls the spice, controls the universe!' - Baron Harkonnen, Dune

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  10. Accountants? by b100dian · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wonder how would one manage to get the accountants to hear/read of these "free as in freedom" ideas - for the ones that I came to know don't give a s*** about quality of software either.

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