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RIAA Loss Report Contradicts Nielsen Sales Record

Posted by CowboyNeal on from the cult-of-spin dept.

DerekAtLC writes "In a not-so-surprising twist of the tables, RIAA reporting of 'losses' is a little bit off. An interesting blurb at Ars Technica referencing a Kensei News article points out that Nielsen's Soundscan (Which tracks retail point-of-sale numbers for the music industry) shows a 10% increase in sales from Q1 2003 to Q1 2004. The RIAA has recently reported drops in revenue from last year, citing online piracy as the main problem. The crux of the issue? The RIAA hasn't been talking about sales or revenue in terms of sales to consumers or money generated via those sales. The RIAA talks about losses in terms of number of units shipped to retail outlets. The article points out plenty of problems with this (and reasons why we are seeing the trend), but it is fairly obvious that the RIAA is not reporting the most 'useful' numbers to the public."

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  1. PEOPLESPRIMARY MUST DIE!!!!! by hot_Karls_bad_cavern · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Peoplesprimary.com (not to be confused with peoplesprimary.org (safe)) are a bunch of fucking toolass cunts. i'm sure many of you have noticed their stupidass link showing up that open a million windows (not mine though, mozilla, motherfuckers) and play a *loudass* swf file repeating Hey everybody, i'm looking at gay porn!. The background is a really nice shot of some bitch that got shit on (your thing? not mine.).

    It's nabbing shit from your clipboard (put in any uid/pass/url values lately?) too.

    Here is all the info i have on those cuntfaces at this time....more to come.

    1. Re:PEOPLESPRIMARY MUST DIE!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Wow, get a life you idiot. You're no better than these guys, in fact you're probably worse judging by you have on your "page". Get over it, please.

  2. None by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Hehe, almost got first post :S

  3. Never would have guessed by Hi_2k · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    but it is fairly obvious that the RIAA is not reporting the most 'useful' numbers to the public

    Next you'll tell me that windows is less secure than linux!

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    Sluggy Freelance.
  4. using that to condemn phony accounting is fine by jbellis · · Score: 2, Offtopic

    just don't use it to justify theft... if the RIAA charges more than you want to pay, that doesn't mean you get to take it anyway. Check out emusic or other sources of indie music instead.

  5. seinfeld comeback by jonastullus · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Jerry: "The ocean called, they're running out of shrimp"?? [He said that to you??]

    George: Yeah, yeah, but then I said to him: "The jerk store called and they are running out of YOU!"

    Jerry: You SAID that to him?

    George: Well, *hmm* actually I thought it up on the way over here.

    Jerry: *Ohh*, THAT's not quite the same

    1. Re:seinfeld comeback by Frizzle+Fry · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      The jerk store called and they are running out of YOU

      You're they're all-time best seller.
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      I'd rather be lucky than good.
  6. Re:Lies, marketing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    No, women are the root of all evil.

  7. Another shocking fact by stratjakt · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Most slashdot readers use Windows and Internet Explorer to post their rants about Free software.

    So what? People are full of shit.

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    1. Re:Another shocking fact by Ziviyr · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      From my Gentoo/Mozilla browser, I say cram it.

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      Someone set us up the bomb, so shine we are!
    2. Re:Another shocking fact by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Win32/Firebird votes STFU, or would you like a big PDF poster saying STFU instead, I'll make one for you in openoffice if you like

      bill gates's penis-- 8iiiiiiiiiD O:} --you

    3. Re:Another shocking fact by 0x0d0a · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Windows, yes; I'm dubious that Internet Explorer is still in favor among Slashdot readers. I know of few people that have tried recent builds of Firefox and still prefer MSIE. Mozilla used to be well behind when it came to user experience, but things have seriously changed.

      I'm using a Windows machine at the moment because I'm not near my own computer, and I can't exactly put Linux on someone else's computer.

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      May we never see th
  8. Re:Court of public opinion by cancerward · · Score: 1, Offtopic
    I'm not a religious person, and I normally don't resort to Biblical citations, but I think this one applies:

    "The love of money is the root of all evil." (also one of the most misquoted passages in the Bible just for the record).

    The replies so far have missed the point: this is the King James Version translation, which mistranslates the Greek. It's best to put the KJV alongside a modern translation like this:
    • KJV For the love of money is the root of all evil...
    • NASB For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil...
    For a more detailed study of the Greek, see White's ``King James Only Controversy''.
  9. AIDS Joke... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Back in the early 90's:

    Q: What's the newest way to get AIDS?
    A: Magic

    It's funny because Magic Johnson (of "The Magic Hour" fame) has HIV.