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Wiring a Neighborhood?

mklencke writes "I'm part of a project that is developing a small neighborhood of about 30 houses in the Netherlands with technology, durability and ecological features in mind. We are looking at centralizing the Internet, TV, phone and radio access. Options we have come across are a central satellite dish, a central subscriber line, etc. Preferably, fiber optics will be used. However, it is very difficult to have a good overview of possibilities, and fiber optics technology is apparently very expensive to implement. Have any Slashdot readers been engaged in a similar project? Do you have hints or resources on how to go about wiring our neighborhood?"

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  1. Decentralized by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To avoid bottlenecks and critical points of failure, I think a decentralized and redundant architecture would be more favorable. But it's only 30 homes, not a high rise office building.

  2. Network Cabling Box by civman2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As someone who wired my house when I built it, I have one MAJOR thing I would do differently. Every room should have at least two cat5 ports on the wall that run to a central box in the basement. Then all these cat5 ports can be patched together any way you please, rather than forcing them to use certain paths. This makes it so much easier to design your home network in a way that suits you rather than the way that works with what you've wired.

  3. Re:If you're not Dutch you're not much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Puns aside, The Netherlands is quite a high-tech nation. When I was working there about 15 years ago, they even had very favorable income tax rules for foreign high-tech workers (I don't know if they still do). In addition, the Dutch are well-educated, super-friendly and fun, have great beer, french fries, cheese and museums (the drugs and sex stuff is mostly for tourists). In all, Holland is a great country that would be the envy of all Americans if they ever took their heads out of the sand. Just don't make a wrong turn while driving or you might end up in another country. ;-)

    - A Canadian

  4. learn or don't do it by CAIMLAS · · Score: 4, Insightful

    if you're implimenting this stuff, you need to either know it like the palm of your own hand, because you will be the one that will be called when there are problems.

    from the tone of your 'ask slashdot' this isn't the case.

    --
    ~/ssh slashdot.org ssh: connect to host slashdot.org port 22: too many beers
  5. Not hard for internet... by Yaa+101 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hoi, I am dutch... Get 2 ADSL accounts at xs4all or similar and use 2 linux based routers to balance traffic between the 2 lines, it will feel very fast for all that way. Use 3 if you still experience some slowness... This way it is 10 houses that share the account cost of 1 line but get's room for 3 lines... Optical lines are only at the outskirts of our main cities so that is not a viable (financial) solution coming years... I hope this helps...

  6. Keep your neighborhood futuristic by imbezol · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you decide that you want to throw cable or fiber or whatever else in the ground you might end up with a pretty hip subdivision, but only for a few years.

    Rather than deciding on what technology is the best for your cost situation at this time, instead realize that the costs of these technologies is rapidly changing all the time as new technologies come out.

    Instead of giving advice on what technology to use now, I'd advise that you make sure you put flexible use conduits all over the neighborhood so that when you inevitably decide that whatever you're using is no longer fast enough, you can change it all. It would be pretty difficult to get everyone to agree on change if it meant digging up the whole block.

    BigFiber.net

  7. one small piece of advice... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Cable is free; installing it is expensive. Doubly so when you start talking about putting it in the earth.

    Therefore if you end up putting wires in the ground try to future-proof it. Run at least 2 4-pair runs (cat5e or cat6). You can use one of them right away for very quick networking and the other one for phone

    Then, add 4 or so strands of cheap multi-mode fiber. You don't need it today, so don't bother terminating the ends. They may come in handy down the road for cable tv/internet use.

    finally a run of standard cable tv coax for cable tv needs today

  8. Fiber Isn't What It Used To Be by klausner · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've been involved in two projects over the last 10+ years where we stubbed in fiber for new construction projects. It was never used in either case.

    I'd suggest running two or three sets of Cat 6 cable to each building. That should be more than enough for the forseeable future, and only a small price premium over Cat 5. After all, most of the cost will be labor.

    But run the cable in a buried, oversized PVC raceway. Then, if you need to run fibre, or anything else in the future it will be easy to do.