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Device for Taking Travel Notes?

the Anonymous Wanderer writes "When I go in vacations, I like to take notes and upon return write a travel story for my friends. Until now I've been using a paper notebook, but found that I'm so busy when I come back that the notebook sits for weeks or months unopened. On the other hand, I have some 'dead' time during trips and I'd like to take the notes electronically (final editing could be done upon return). I don't want to carry a laptop or a PDA (too expensive, plus I want to be away from computers at least those 2 weeks per year). Any suggestions for a light, cheap, keyboard-equipped device? Like a travel clock + keyboard and more memory and USB? Thanks, the Anonymous Wanderer."

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  1. A different option by strictnein · · Score: 5, Informative

    A calculator is always nice to have. And you can plug in a keyboard. And while you're out traveling, you can also be collecting data!

    1. Re:A different option by ibbey · · Score: 2, Informative

      I'd second a Zire (or another cheap Palm compatible), but recommend Fitaly over a keyboard. More compact then even the smallest keyboard (since it's software only), and allows extremely fast input. The current record is more then 81 words per minute. Personally, I can input text almost as fast on my Palm as I can on my PC (Granted, I'm a slow typist). Of course, this means that you can't get away from computers completely, but it's cheap, small and flexible.

      I'd probably recommend getting one with an expansion slot, so you can back up your notes in case of loss or theft. I'd also recommend you try to find an older black & white one that uses AAA batteries instead of a built-in recharger. Unless you are in extremely remote areas, I'd assume that you'd be able to find replacement batteries, and then you won't need to carry a charger. B&W also means much more life between replacement/charges. And, they're dirt cheap to boot.

  2. Tandy by speleo · · Score: 5, Informative

    You want a Tandy WP-2 or Radio Shack Model 100. Go here: http://www.8bit-micro.com/wp2wp3.htm

  3. Huh? by jargoone · · Score: 5, Informative

    You want an electronic device, that has a keyboard, you can type on, but is not a laptop or a PDA? Is there a punchline here?

    Christ, buy a Palm IIIe and a keyboard from eBay. Way less than $50. If that's too expensive, stick with your notebook and buy a scanner.

  4. Alphasmart! by harrkev · · Score: 5, Informative

    Try here: Alphasmart. They even have many models which will work off of AA batteries.

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    1. Re:Alphasmart! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Excepting the _cheapest_ model appears to be $200.

      Contrast this against a use Visor Deluxe on eBay for $25, and a keyboard for it (new) $25, totalling $50 to have 16Mb of space to type one's notes, and AlphaSmart becomes MoneyDumb.

    2. Re:Alphasmart! by C.+E.+Sum · · Score: 2, Informative

      It definatley depends on what you want to do with it.

      First thing, the AlphaSmarts are available on ebay (usually for $200). I'll sell you one for $100 if you want :)

      Secondly, if you only goal is to write text without worrying about weird UI's, crashing, etc, this is the machine for you. If you want to be able to use Palm software, do other stuff, the Alphasmart isn't a good deal. It's one of those "pick one thing and do it well" kinds of products.

      I am very happy with my 15" Powerbook, and not unhappy with my Treo 270, but neither of them would be very good at taking travel log notes in the same way the Alpahsmart would.

      When I travel, I tend to write email to my friends, and the AS would be great for that too. A good fraction of the cybercafes I've been too (in Eastern Europe, India, Australia, the US) have accessible USB ports. Since pasting from the AS is just submitting keystrokes from what looks to the PC like a USB keybaord, it would be pretty trivial to pre-write your email and then send it off in much less time (and maybe much fewer smoke-filled breaths :) than if I had to type it myself.

      It's NOT good for everything, but for what it's designed to do, it works really well.

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  5. Cell phone text messaging by erick99 · · Score: 5, Informative
    You may want to consider using a cell phone that opens up into a keyboard. (The Nokia 6800 is a nice choice). This would allow you to send text messages to your email address. Some of these keyboard cell phones are really cool.The Nokia 6800 opens into a QWERTY keyboard and works quite nicely. I've used it and was surprised at how fast I could enter text.

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  6. Here's a suggestion by metlin · · Score: 5, Informative

    If too expensive is the reason you do not want to carry a laptop or a PDA, then I strongly suggest you get one of those el-cheapo Palm Vx's off eBay for like $20 or something.

    You can also get a foldable portable palm keyboard for less than $5.

    It's really portable and quite comfortable to type in too.

    I always carry these around when I go wandering -- they are good companions in the wilderness (read books, take notes etc) and you can read them in the dark too (they come with a back-lit display).

    Besides, using them does not make you feel like you are using a computer-ish device, just think of them as nothing more than advanced note-taking tools with alarm clocks and games :)

    And oh, if you are the type who hikes/climbs mountains etc., you could hook up a GPS to your Palm to look up directions using something like Cetus GPS - that way you have a GPS tool, alarm clock and a note-taking tool all bundled into one.

    1. Re:Here's a suggestion by metlin · · Score: 2, Informative

      My room-mate has Linux installed on his IPaq and carries that around, with a small portable keyboard.

      Here's a how-to on installing Linux on an IPaq and here's the keyboard for it.

      I hear that there are also IR versions of these things that've come out, but I've not seen one yet.

  7. Be sure to take a notebook and pen by xintegerx · · Score: 1, Informative

    Depending on your travel, if your laptop gets full of sand or falls into the water, or you fall off a bike and break your $600 PDA, you definitely want to have a notebook and pen handy.

    Or, wait. Just skip the electronic gadgets all together and bring a 2 oz notebook and pen.

  8. Eh? by jdbarillari · · Score: 4, Informative
    I don't want to carry a laptop or a PDA (too expensive, plus I want to be away from computers at least those 2 weeks per year). Any suggestions for a light, cheap, keyboard-equipped device? Like a travel clock + keyboard and more memory and USB?

    This almost sounds like a troll -- "I don't want to carry a PDA, but I want a device with a keyboard and USB. A travel clock with a keyboard? What universe are you from?

    Anyway, I recommend getting a cheap early-model Palm Pilot (circa $100 or so, especially if you get 'em used) and a keyboard. I used the Palm m500 and a Logitech keyboard (about $75, less used, I assume) to write a travelogue on a trip this summer. The battery life on the plam impressive, and if you lose it, you're only out less than $200. Or much, much less if you buy used.

    One caveat: the accuracy on those tiny keyboards sucks. Expect to spend some time cleaning up yuor speling on your home pc.

  9. Psion 5 to the rescue! by i_want_you_to_throw_ · · Score: 4, Informative

    I have the Visor with the collapsible keyboard and I used to take that with me for my travel writing and although it worked ok it kept crashing like crazy. I bought a Psion 5 on eBay and it ROCKS! Comes with a keyboard ( a little small but usable ) built in voice recorder. Notably it takes a standard CF card and I shoved a 40 something meg card into it. It comes with reasonable versions of Word, thesaurus, spell checker, etc and it works great. I even have an Ethernet adaptor for it.

    You can see see the eBay Psion 5 stuff here. Runs on two AA batteries. I wouldn't have thought to get one but I got the recommendation from Robert Young Pelton author of the World's Most Dangerous Places. If it's good enough for him....

  10. alphasmart by srobillard · · Score: 3, Informative

    Check out a thing called the alphasmart.

    http://www.alphasmart.com/

    it has all the features you are looking for.

  11. Pick one by GrouchoMarx · · Score: 4, Informative

    You want to be away from a computer, but you want an electronic way to take notes? Does Not Compute.

    Honestly, get yourself a Palm and the Palm UT Keyboard or even the wireless IR keyboard they sell. OK, so it's electronic. It's still the most convenient you'll find, and has a ton of other features as well. Like reading ebooks on the plane on the way to your vacation, then taking notes while on the vacation, then playing games on the way back from your vacation. It works out quite nicely. :-)

    These guys can give you great advice on which model you want to get. They've reviewed just about every handheld in existence.

    Disclaimer: I am one of "those guys". :-)

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  12. Voice- faster notes by snoochyboochy · · Score: 4, Informative

    On our recent honeymoon in NZ I used a USB MP3 player with a mic to record short notes. Worked great, got lots of ambient sounds to go with the pics, plus now I'll always know how dorky I sound in person....

  13. Alphasmart is a great product by uglyMood · · Score: 2, Informative

    My wife is a novelist, and has used her Alphasmart for years. She loves it. It's lightweight and easy to type on.

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    1. Re:Alphasmart is a great product by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      We have caseworkers that use them and they hold up fairly well. Get the Dana model as that is based on Palm OS 4.1 and then it can server as your PDA as well.

    2. Re:Alphasmart is a great product by C.+E.+Sum · · Score: 5, Informative

      I would say that they are generally reliable, though not indistructable. I have an AlphaSmart 3000 that my wife used to take notes all through law school.

      Physically, the 3000 is a small full-sized (or nearly so) keyboard with a 4x80 (I think) character cell display. It runs FOREVER on 4AA batteries and can paste text to a PC or Mac via USB or IR. (Some models ISTR have different connectors). No pasting mode is quick (19.2kbaud?), but it works just fine.

      The pastica case is relatively tough, and if not beautiful, at least not butt-ugly. My wife essentially tosed it in her backpack for 3 years and it had 0 problems as far as I know. It is probably not waterproof, but I would not fear it geting damp or even a bit of rain on the outside. It has few phsyical ports onit for junk to get inside, and no moving parts other than the keyboard.

      My only reservation for travel work is that it's not exactly small. It is relative light (700g?), but it will take up as much space as a very portable laptop.

      If you have room for it, though, it would make a great travel log. The text editing software works reasonably well (more featurers than pico, fewer than Wordpad/TextEdit).

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  14. Why write notes? by Sean80 · · Score: 2, Informative
    Why write notes when you can hear yourself talking! Maybe I'm missing the point of the question, but wouldn't it be easier to buy one of those cool digital voice-recorders, and later write the notes from that, when you get home? I understand you can even get ones that will download content onto a PC at the end of the day.

    Been meaning to buy one for myself for ages. Especially in the traffic in the morning, when I have a bright idea, hell of a lot easier to speak it than write it down.

  15. One option not mentioned yet by Mysticalfruit · · Score: 4, Informative

    Why does it have to be written? It sounds like since you were writing it down on pen and paper you had todo lots of transposing already.

    Why not invest in an mp3 recorder and use it to keep an audio journal of your vacation.

    Then when you come home you can just sit down and listen to the entries and use them to write your story.

    Firstly, mp3 recorders and the memory they use are cheap.
    Secondly, it's alot smaller and lighter than a pen / notebook.
    Thirdly, if your've near the right facilites you could even upload your log entries to a server just in case you use lose the thing.

    You could even setup a webpage so your friends and family to co surf to your site and listen to your log entries.

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  16. Got iPod? by hondo77 · · Score: 4, Informative

    If you're taking along an iPod (and I have no idea if you are or not), how about getting an iTalk to go with it and dictate your notes?

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  17. Poqet or Psion by tverbeek · · Score: 2, Informative
    Another option is an old Poqet PC. It was a PC-XT in a package the size of a VHS cassette, and runs for days on a couple AAs. It's not as easy to type on as a "Model T" (as the TRS-80 100's are affectionately known), but it's smaller and has a 80x25 character screen. You can easily run the DOS text editor of your choice (or even WordPerfect 5.1) on it, and transfer files via serial or PCMCIA cards.

    I'd also suggesting looking at Psion's old PDAs (Series3, Siena, Revo), which were even smaller, had reasonably good keyboards, and excellent software that you can also use for tracking your schedule, calculating exchange rates, storing phone numbers, etc. This is what I've usually used as a travelling companion... except for the times when I really wanted to get away from the 'tronics, and instead used a notepad of paper and a pencil for keeping a journal.

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  18. Couple of ideas... by rusty0101 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have, and have used, a Tandy 200. Connect via serial port, dump the data. This, as well as the Tandy 100, plus the WP-1, and other varients are really primarily text entry devices today, though they have the ability to be somewhat more. (I know the Tandy's come with a rudimentary spreadsheet, as well as a database. Not sure on the WP-1)

    The biggest problem is going to be cost. For what they do, they are very expensive for the casual user. If you are a reporter, or freelance writer who can get a lot of use out of one of these, I would say go for it.

    Folding keyboards for Palm and PockPC devices are reasonably comfortable for most people to enter text with. I am not fond of the thumbpads for entering text, but if you are comfortable text messaging on a cell phone, or with a Blackberry, you might want to take a look at a Zaurus 5500, which has been comming down in price.

    If you prefer to "write" there are notepad data entry devices for the various PDA's as well.

    Further on the "write" path is the data pen that keeps track of the movement of the pen and then downloads it via a USB port. I do not know how much memory they have, and would suspect that they are designed around taking notes at a meeting, vs. keeping track of the two week trip to Tibet.

    If you don't mind a piece of electronics, but want to stay away from a computer/pda, you might want to look into a small typewriter. Type your notes, then when you get home scan them, OCR the scanned text, and post the results.

    You may also find that whatever hotel you stay at as you are visiting have typewriters available for guests. This may not be handy when riding on the train and the muse strikes you, but you could use such to transcribe whatever notes you have taken into something you can scan.

    For that matter, you could just do as you are, with the itterative step of scanning in your current notes, posting them as images, then manually typing the notes and decide if you want to have both the original scan and the text, or one or the other.

    Another variation on that if you happen to have a cammera with a macro lens, or even a cell phone with a built in camera, would be to take photos of your notes that you can post along with whatever photos you take of the area. This would be also handy for keeping track of what you are photographing. This would work also with a film camera, but you would have the additionall wait involved in getting it developed and scanned in. Though some camera shops will allow you to get the pictures on disk or CD instead of or in addition to the prints.

    Lastly you can also find digital voice recorders that you can dump the recorded audio to a computer at a later time. Memory costs dropping have really improved the amount of time you can record on these with. You might also contemplate the same with a DV camera.

    Just some ideas, others will have more.

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  19. Re:You know by Oliver+Wendell+Jones · · Score: 2, Informative

    with about 60 seconds of searching on eBay (check user BuyEssex) I was able to find a Sony Clie (monochrome) PDA for under $20 and a keyboard to go with for under $1.

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  20. Jornada 820 by corporate_ai · · Score: 2, Informative

    I love my Jornada 820. Windows CE device with full laptop keyboard, 8.2 inch 640x480 vga screen, built in v.90 56k modem and an 8 hour battery. For writing, nothing does better.

    I picked one up on eBay two years ago for around $250 and it is worth every penny. Not a lot of options for upgrade since the OS is on a ROM but I wouldn't trade mine for anything.

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  21. Nokia 3650 driver works with Palm keyboard by yelvington · · Score: 2, Informative

    Symbian phones can use Palm keyboards. Note that the Nokia 3650 is a GSM world phone, so you can take notes (and send email) from pretty much anywhere.

  22. Re:Like the old Apple eMate by Jonathan · · Score: 2, Informative

    It was a Newton. Jobs killed the Newton division shortly after he came back to Apple, partly due to poor sales (although they were picking up), and partly because the Newton division had close ties to former Apple CEO Scully (the guy who forced out Jobs the first time).

  23. Palm software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you take the palm with keyboard route as a lot of people are suggesting, I recommend SiEd for text editing, it saves files as normal text files on the memory card.
    If you carry around a cellphone, you can then upload the files with VFSFTP. When I went to events before I got my laptop, I used this setup to update my webpage with live information. I could also upload photos as such.
    Ah, one more handy program, Mocha Telnet, it has SSH-2 support. I used it to ssh in to make thumbnails of the photos I'd uploaded.