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"Real" Real Time Strategy?
Mr. Fluffyhead writes "This hardcore RTS gamer's rather thoughtful wish list asks the question, if somebody made a 'real' war sim, would anyone want to play it?" From the fake Newsweek cover story about the "Ultralisk Rape Scandal" to Mr. Wong's yearning to break the Geneva Convention in pixel form, this one's a humourous yet realistic look at real time war games.
You fucking tool. You really think that's all this is about? Go educate yourself, or shut up and go back to listening to Rush Limbaugh. Because, you know, rape and murder are no different from frat hazing.
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Let's catalogue your sins.
there are a lot of not nice governments and we aren't invading their countries
Sin of false equivalence. If you are unable to distinguish between the government of Iraq and the government of, say, Yemen, then you are either insufficiently informed or lacking in moral conscience. To wit: Iraq invaded a neighbor, fought a war, lost, surrendered, and agreed to a set of terms that included verifiable disarmament. They refused to comply with those terms.
Saddam does not seem to have posed any serious threat to the United States
Sin of willful blindness. Saddam was personally writing checks in the amount of $25,000 to families of murder-bombers. He was paying for terrorism. The fact that that terrorism was not, at the time, directed toward the United States is hardly a point on which I'd like to bet my family's lives.
There is no evidence to suggest any relationship between Saddam and Al Quaida
Sin of willful blindness, instance #2. You're ignoring the intelligence we have from the Czech republic tying Iraqi Military Intelligence to al-Qaida before 9/11, the documentary evidence of same uncovered in Baghdad after the invasion, and the extensive evidence uncovered by our own treasury department linking Iraqi Military Intelligence to al-Qaida through Ansar al-Islam.
if Saddam had any deployable WMDs (which is unlikely) they were certainly far from a state of readiness at which they would pose any threat to the even the neighbors of Iraq
Sin of willful blindness, instance #3. We know without a doubt that Saddam had deployable WMD, because one of them went off in Baghdad yesterday. An artillery shell is about as deployable as it gets.
But that's not all. We know that Saddam had proscribed long-range missiles aimed at both Israel and Kuwait before and during the invasion because (1) our special forces troops on the ground destroyed them in the western desert, and (2) Iraqi forces fired them at Kuwait City during the invasion.
The lead up to war and the intelligence supporting it demonstrates either gross incompetence or deliberate misleading on the part of the administration.
I don't even know how to describe this sin. You're choosing to believe false accusations and ignore evidence. You're blinded by your prejudices.
The handling of Iraq since the invasion has been a complete disaster, mostly due to an (apparhent) complete failure to anticipate anything but the most rosy of post war senarios.
Yeah. Willful blindness again, I guess. "Quagmire!"
Do you get all your news from The Guardian, or what?
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while fags like you who have no sense of humour call it lame, most civilized people with senses of humour call it satire.
keep choking on that cock.
And that's what makes the rest of the world see the US as a nation of arseholes.
If some wanna be UK goth kiddies who think they are goth because they go to the rocky horror picture show hate the US and think they are "arseholes" I could care less my little plumper. When you grow up you will realize that real life doesn't fit your broken idealism.
Seriously, if you did that to your own citizens you would be up in arms about it. So why do it to anyone else?
No if my government were to have captured terry nicoles and tourured him to find out what Tim McVeigh was up to, no I would not be up in arms about it.
And if you think that torture can ever be justified then you are already a barbarous idiot.
No, I'm a realist. I live in the real world and I understand that torture that saves lives is a good thing. Sometimes you have to fight for peace.
You say that the people captured where terrorists. How do you know?
The block they were on was used for iraqis OR FOREIGN FIGHTERS who were capture plotting against, or who had taken action against the US.
Were they put on trial? Or is it just somehow obvious?
POW's don't get trials.
what if an innocent man was in there and tortured to death,
Tortured to death? Are you on fucking crack? What kiddie goth drug are you on? Death by what? Having panties put on their heads? Give me a break.
is that still OK? What if there's an innocent man in there that starts giving out false information just to make the pain stop?
The pain of having panties on their heads? Yeah that must have hurt just as much as Nick Berg getting his throat cut right?
Fscking moral relativism. TORTURE IS BAD mmkay?
Not if it saves lives it's not. Maybe if you ever had to make a real decision in your life you would understand that you fat pompous goth pig. What happened to those terrorists is nothing compared to what happens in domestic jails all around the world. You are being led like a SHEEP to hate the US and George Bush because it's an election year here in the US. Bleet for me my eurotrash sheep.
I tend to stop reading AC posts that begin their arguement calling me a 'liberal fuck'.
I suggest you take a course on effective communication, or spend your time somewhere far, far away from society.
1) Your analysis is based on bad assumptions so your result is way off. 2) You're a sick bastard for fucking a horse.
I guess it was hoping too much that you would argue with proper reasons as to why I was wrong rather than just an ad hominem attack and some name calling
Yes, I'm a goth, so what? And I think I'm goth because I go to goth clubs and take past in the UK goth community, though I will admit that I have lapsed somewhat in the last year or so. I'm also a 25 year old software engineer, and I'm not on drugs.
Here's a few things though, fucktard:
When you grow up you will realize that real life doesn't fit your broken idealism
Indeed, my idealism does not fit the world. That's the point of idealism, to aspire to ideals that don't currently exist. Te world is full of arseholes who are too willing to treat other people badly for their own ends. A few more idealists would be a good thing, not a bad thing. It seems like realism is actually all too often an excuse for atrocity and abuse.
The block they were on was used for iraqis OR FOREIGN FIGHTERS who were capture plotting against, or who had taken action against the US.
and this was proved in a verifiable and just way exactly how?
POW's don't get trials
No, but they do get basic rights accorded to them by the geneva convention, which even the USA is a signatory to. And one of those is freedom from physical or psychological torture.
Tortured to death? Are you on fucking crack?
No, I've been reading the news reports, unlike you it would appear. Having dogs set on them and being tortured severely enough to cause death are things that have been reported. They just weren't in the photos.
The pain of having panties on their heads? Yeah that must have hurt just as much as Nick Berg getting his throat cut right?
1) by this point I was talking of a hypothetical situation in which an innocent man was under torture by mistaken identity or mistaken evidence.
2) There is significant material to suggest that the Nick Berg video has been tampered with, the sound effects are taken from stock and also that the body was dead before the beheading. Things like the lack of blood, the lack of movement from Mr Berg (even when the soundtrack is screams).
Also, i don't get why (if the nick berg thing is the truth) the fact that some time later, after all the abuse takes place, the death of an american by extremists/nutballs suddenly excuses the american nation from systematic abuse charges? Yes, they did that. they are the bad guys, you are supposed to be beacons of shining light, goodness, democracy etc (by your own words). And you fail miserably.
In conclusion, I portend that it is you that is the fourteen year old in this discussion, or that you are just hoplessly naive and unquestioning of authority.
One more reason that the rest of the world has fallen out of love with the US of A.
I guess it was hoping too much that you would argue with proper reasons as to why I was wrong rather than just an ad hominem attack and some name calling
I did argue very valid reasons, you are just too blinded by your leftist attitude to see them. As for the "attack" that was just reality honey.
Yes, I'm a goth, so what? And I think I'm goth because I go to goth clubs and take past in the UK goth community,
Going to the rocky horror picture show and wearing glow in the dark fangs doesn't make you a goth. Get a clue. Silly UK kids.
though I will admit that I have lapsed somewhat in the last year or so. I'm also a 25 year old software engineer, and I'm not on drugs.
Making websites in Microsoft frontpage for your fathers business doesn't make you a "software engineer".
Indeed, my idealism does not fit the world. That's the point of idealism, to aspire to ideals that don't currently exist.
Yes, but not ones that are unrealistic.
Te world is full of arseholes who are too willing to treat other people badly for their own ends
Agreed, look at how all of the communist regimes in the world turn out.
A few more idealists would be a good thing, not a bad thing.
Strict adherance to Idealism is often a mask for corruption.
It seems like realism is actually all too often an excuse for atrocity and abuse.
No, realism is just realism. Atrocity and abuse happens. The idea is to confront it realistically and find a solution. Also what one person considers "abuse" another might not.
and this was proved in a verifiable and just way exactly how?
Uhh, fire on a US soldier, attempt and fail at a suicide bombing, etc. Sorry they don't have time for a full trial by a jury of their terroist fuck peers. This is a war though, not a cakewalk.
POW's don't get trials....No, but they do get basic rights accorded to them by the geneva convention, which even the USA is a signatory to.
This is ignorance on your part, Terroists do NOT have any rights according to the geneva convention. None. See Article 4, section 2. A prisoner is a "prisoner of war" only if he is reporting to a commander, if he wears a distinctive insignia recognizable at a distance, if he carries arms openly, and IF HE, HIMSELF, CONDUCTS HIMSELF ACCORDING TO THE RULES OF WAR.
You obviously have never studied the geneva convention. Put down your "webmaster for dummies" book and your glow in the dark fangs and learn something before you go spouting off spewing your ignorant political views that have been force fed down your throat by your culture and your peers.
Tortured to death? Are you on fucking crack? No, I've been reading the news reports, unlike you it would appear. Having dogs set on them
There was a news report that the soldiers held dogs in front of captives and threatened them if they didn't give up information. SO WHAT? If it saves a life it's worth it. And that is NOTHING like torture.
and being tortured severely enough to cause death
Provide a link from a legit news source that reports solid evidence that American soldiers tortured someone to death. You are taking rumors and opinions as fact.
are things that have been reported. They just weren't in the photos.
No, they have been speculated. Speculation isn't fact. I guess your misunderstanding of this proves why the UK loves their tabloids so much.
The pain of having panties on their heads? Yeah that must have hurt just as much as Nick Berg getting his throat cut right? 1) by this point I was talking of a hypothetical situation in which an innocent man was under torture by mistaken identity or mistaken evidence.
You bleeding heart liberals always deal with hypothetical exceptions rather than rules. It is a sad detachment from
Haha...from the article...
The detainee was allegedly beaten to death by CIA or civilian interrogators in the showers of the notorious Abu Ghraib prison.
Do you not understand what the word ALLEGDLY means? Are you that fucking stupid? Plus it comes from that liberal tabloid "The Guardian". Get it from a legit news source, not your eurotrash socialist propganda papers. Now go put on your glow in the dark fangs and write "Hello World" in C and tell yourself that you are a programmer.
And ignored the legitimate news item I pointed out to you.
No I didn't, I replied with more facts which you didn't reply to. I'm no troll, I'm just someone you don't agree with. That is something the left always has problems with. When it knows it cant win an argument with it's fantasies it's starts name calling without providing an argument. It doesn't matter if it's fascist or troll, they will always find something to call you to try to cover up for their lack of logical thinking.
PS- I don't read that eurocrap K5 shit. Why don't you take your communism over here. You do realize Europe is dying BTW right? Take off your fangs and take a look at your population numbers and what they project to in 2050 and 2100.