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Things You Can Do With A Giant Fresnel Lens

Ant writes "Here is a link where this guy always wanted Edmund Scientific's Giant Fresnel Lens. 'Melts asphalt in seconds!' the ad said. When he went to graduate school he met several other people with the same enthusiasm for aimless destruction through bizarre means, and just enough combined cash to make it happen. Thus the reign of terror began."

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  1. Nice picture of a giant fresnel lens in action by PissingInTheWind · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Right here: Cooking with Light.

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  2. Ideas by panxerox · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Mount it in front of your monitor for a really big image Write your name in the side of someone's car Wipe your harddrive permanently There has to be a way to increase solar cell output with these (not at direct focus of course mabey larger area at 25% focus)

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    1. Re:Ideas by uberdave · · Score: 4, Interesting

      From one of the articles: "Cylindrical Fresnel lenses provide a 7:1 concentration, allowing a single multijunction GaInP2/GaAs/Ge cell to collect solar energy equivalent to that gathered by seven cells."

      In other words, a fresnel lens does not help in terms of energy gathering. On a cost or mass per area, it does.

  3. A good use by KoriaDesevis · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Maybe not very practical, but it might make a good paint remover. I have seen work crews remove paint from wood surfaces with a heat gun that looked like a big hairdryer, so I would think this type of lens would be helpful for stripping paint off metal surfaces such as water towers and so forth.

  4. Mindless by Roland+Piquepaille · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Chalk actually burns under this thing.

    Chalk burns eh? Creative chemistry, more like it. Here's another fun thing you can do: drop your "burnt" chalk in a glass half-full of water, let it bubble, and put your finger in it. Let me know how it feels.

    So do aluminum cans. They smell really bad.

    Aluminium doesn't smell bad when it burns. I suspect whatever soda pop chemicals remaining in the can do.

    It seems that normal concrete will start emitting plumes of smoke just before it pops

    As would burning tar, or any other heavy petroleum derivate.

    * Mike's car.

    Well, not yet. But it's plastic, so it would go up in no time at all. Or maybe we could just shrink-wrap the body around the frame.


    Try focusing the lens on the round plastic thing that smells funny, on the rear side of the car...

    Seriously, this article is all about playing with a new destructive toy and not much about using the toy in question to do interesting science-related experiments.

  5. I have one of these. by Qender · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I found one of these at my school last year. The first thing I did was take it to the parking lot to set paper on fire. The asphalt under the paper burned. I also melted pennies with it, and it can make holes in soda cans. Is there anything else anyone thinks I should burn with it? it's in my garage.

  6. Laser Communications by Rob+Carr · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Besides destorying things, these fresnel lenses cand be used for all sorts of constructive fun.

    A perfect example is a laser communication system. A laser beam can be modulated and used to transmit audio. The receiver needs to collect as many photons as possible from the laser transmitter - hence the use of the fresnel lense. Signals can be bounced off clouds - I've heard of transmissions going over 60 miles!

    The Amatuer Radio Laser Communications Page has a good primer that has a link to a lot of the basics. And no, you don't need a ham license - although it helps!

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  7. Hanging wall art by G4from128k · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hanging a Fresnel Lens in front of a white wall projects a nicely focused image of the room onto the wall. Depending on the arrangement of the room and windowage, its poosible to watch the world pass by on projected image. The optimum distance from wall to lens is approximately the focal length (or a little farther if the subject is close to the lens.

    Just make sure the sun never gets to the lens or it will burn an arc across the wall.

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  8. $99 for the cheap fresnel... by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Could you do something serious with this? Put the damn thing in a rig that follows the sun, and a small steam turbine under it, just how much juice could it provide?

    I wish I knew the math to this, but damn, if it could provide even a small fraction of the power I use during the daytime... (by this, I mean 5-10%)

    Anyone want to impress me with their math/physics skills?

    1. Re:$99 for the cheap fresnel... by nelsonal · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If you follow the sun perfectly you could figure on about 1 kW of light (cheesy rule of thumb) hitting your turbine. Assume 30% efficiency and you have 300W of electric power generated for an average of 12 hrs per sunny day. Three light bulbs (or 6-8 florescents) or one fully loaded computer (300 W power supply, no electric heat, iron, or oven. Oh and you'll need a capacitor bank to handle your inductive load when motors start. Go grab your power bill and see how many kW/hrs you use in a month and then figure out how many fresnel lens/turbine array's you would need to achive that power. Storage would be a mofo, although you might be able to sell it into the grid in your area.

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    2. Re:$99 for the cheap fresnel... by Roland+Piquepaille · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Can't you use fresnel along with photvoltaic to improve the power of the photovoltaics? Maybe not this size of fresnel, but smaller, cheaper ones to get a boost on your cells.

      If you pair a photovoltaic panel to the same size fresnel lens, no because you'll just have concentrated the same amount of light on a tiny bit of the photovoltaic panel instead of having the same power spread on the entire surface. You can however increase the power to a smaller panel, because then you concentrate on this smaller surface the power gathered by the larger lens.

      There's a limit to how much you can concentrate the solar light onto the solar panel before destroying the panel though. For this to work, you'd probably have to keep the solar panel out of the lens' focal point, and if your lens is really big, cool the panel with water or something (their efficiency is higher when they're cool).

  9. 50-inch Fresnel lens...for free! by tokachu(k) · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You can get a free Fresnel lens by doing a bit of dumpster diving. If anyone has thrown out a 50" projection TV, the lens is yours!

    NOTE: This HAS happened; I am NOT being sarcastic. I took the Fresnel lens out from the trash and stuck it under my bed, wondering what I could do with it. Now I know! (perhaps I should just eBay it for $100)

  10. Possible use as power source? by Cirrocco · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If this thing is capable of creating such intense heat (with, as far as I can tell, very little environmental impact such as that created when making solar panels) then perhaps it could be used as an alternative (and portable) power source?

    I need to look into this. Heat energy can be converted into electric energy, even if it isn't all that efficient.

  11. Focus energy for interstellar travel by Zirtix · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I read a paper once that advocated the following strategy for getting to Proxima Centauri in a span of ~50 years. The plan is this:

    1) Construct array of solar panels near Mercury (or whatever)
    2) Beam resulting gigawatts of power to the Moon using small lasers/masers
    3) Collect the power and use it to feed a very large laser
    4) Point laser at a huge fresnel lens orbiting Jupiter (say)
    5) Point fresnel lens at a solar sail, accelerating it to ~0.1c quite quickly

    The lens allows your laser beam to stay focused at long range (like 4 light years). Of course it would take centuries to build the kit needed, but once it's running you can send lots of payloads for little cost (solar sails are 'cheap' to make). There are also solar sail strategies for interstellar return journeys!

    I like solar sails, generally. Sustainable space travel!

  12. Re:It's being done! by jamesshuang · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They're building a huge pane of glass on the Australian desert. This pane of glass is supended a few feet off the ground, which is painted black. The air between the glass and the ground is heated, and since hot air rises, it travels toward a chimney at the center of this contraption. As it moves through the chimney, a large turbine generates the necessary power. This odd design works extremely well, but requires very bright, sunny locations that don't mind a glass pane a square mile wide!

  13. Re:A use for AOL CD's by SomeGuyFromCA · · Score: 3, Interesting
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  14. ancient art of temple building by cybersk4nk · · Score: 3, Interesting

    this article is interesting because it reminds me of something i read in an old history book on mayan temples. apparently, some of them have rock cut so exactly and perfectly, a knife blade will not fit between the seams. i remember reading (or watching on tv once) about how some scientists/archeologists theorized that the maya used focused sunlight to cut the rock (specifically, big gold encrusted sun discs), and how preposterous others thought of the idea. i even remember that some scientists tried it out once with gold polished mirrors, and it failed utterly. now that we know a giant fresnel lens can burn ashphalt and make concrete crack and pop, i wonder if the maya came up with a similar technique based on a more primitive (or more advanced) fresnel-like lens. anybody want to carve up some rock to test the theory? it would make for some fun mad science to prove an old theory.

  15. Archimedes by vlad_petric · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Legends say that Archimedes wreaked havoc through the Roman invasion fleet trying to conquer Syracuse with giant lenses.

    While it's very hard to verify this legend, one thing we know for sure is that Syracuse was conquered via land, and Archimedes ingenuity had an important part to play in defending Syracuse from the sea.

    So yeah, this is stuff that matters, but hardly "news"

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  16. Fresnel Lens - not just for light by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I recall reading an article in a Canadian electronics magazine back in the mid 80s where the author created a satellite "dish" based on Fresnel theory. It wasn't a dish at all, but a large plywood Fresnel lens that focused the (C-band) satellite signal onto a feed horn behind the plywood (as opposed to a dish where the feed horn is located in front at the focal point). I don't remember if the plywood was painted with a metallic paint.

    I think the mag was Electronics Today and the author may have been Steve Rimmer or David Stringer. Those guys used to do all kinds of crazy things, like mounting a dozen larger speakers (covered with sheet metal) to the front of a VW van and hooking them up to a frequency generator and amplifier. They used this rig to distort the bounced signal from a police radar gun tricking it into displaying a speed of their choice