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PS2 Action Replay Adds MP3, DivX, Genesis Emulation

Thanks to 1UP for its article discussing the forthcoming, impressively feature-rich Action Replay Max for PlayStation 2. This Sony-unapproved third-party USB drive/CD combo includes the ability to "burn a CD of MP3 music, DivX video, or Genesis/Mega Drive ROMs [on your PC], which will then play back on an Action Replay-equipped PS2", and, similar to previous versions, "...will circumvent the PS2's DVD region lockout, and also stream MP3 music or DivX video from a PC connected to the PS2 by way of its Network Adaptor." In addition, the device can "download new cheat codes through a broadband Internet connection, or accept new codes loaded on a CD-R or Datel's own USB flash drive", and finally, Datel "has also added its PS2 online chat and instant messaging client to the Action Replay package."

41 comments

  1. I've always wondered... by Big-Felt · · Score: 1

    How did they get all that running without a developer liscense? Reverse engineering??

    1. Re:I've always wondered... by SynapseLapse · · Score: 3, Informative

      To a certain extent I'm sure they reverse engineered it.
      On the other hand, I'd bet that the PS2 Linux kit didn't hurt either.

      Back in the NES days, a couple of companies got the pertinent info for programing/hacking the NES by going to the patent office.
      Very interesting story about it in the book "Game Over."
      What I'd like to see is a PS2 add on the supports my USB Iomega Zip drive...

      That'd be cool.

    2. Re:I've always wondered... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Back before gamecube came out there were rumors Nintendo was working on an official accecessory to use CompactFlash cards as very large memory cards.. I've always wondered if there was any truth to that and what's become of the project if there was.

    3. Re:I've always wondered... by SynapseLapse · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, it wasn't CompactFlash it was actually Secure Digital [SD] cards they were going to use. Prototypes were produced and sent to various game review companies [magazines/websites]. The problem with the device was it was only compatible with games specifically programmed for it and the GC's memory management screen couldn't read it [from what I've read]. That, and there was a limit to the number of files you could store. I think it was something around 500 maybe? Suffice to say, I do recall that a 32mb was the largest amount of space you could use. One of the proposed ideas was that games similar to Pokemon Snap could have high resolution Screen shots saved to the SD card where you could take it in to a photo processor and get pictures printed out. So due to very limited game support, the project was canned. Too bad to, I would to be able to pop my SD card in a USB reader and start hex-editing the heck out of my save games.

    4. Re:I've always wondered... by prewashedironman · · Score: 1

      It has come out in japan, but i believe it is only used in animal forest+ (animal crossing in the US) and is used as you mentioned - for taking photos and then printing them.

    5. Re:I've always wondered... by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      The Linux kit supports Zip drives. :-)

    6. Re:I've always wondered... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Datel are the king of unlicensed game accessories. They have been ever since the original series of Action Replay carts for damn near every system to exist (I still need to grab one for my C64).

    7. Re:I've always wondered... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gameshark had a USB Zip drive for the PS2. I have heard that the software works with any USB zip drive not just their own.

      What I'd like to see is a program/utility that supports any USB mass storage device...

  2. Any idea if it fixes the HDD problem? by KyolFrilander · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When Sony released the HDD, one of the updates is a service patch that makes unofficial discs like everything that Datel uses take about six times longer to launch.

    Legitimate games take 20 seconds. The AR MAX takes 120. Take out the drive, and the AR MAX takes around 20 again.

    But if you ask Datel about this, they say "oh no, there's no problem, it works fine, you're obviously imagining things."

    I wonder if this update does anything for that. Lord knows you can't conveniently remove the HDD every time you don't want to use it, and a 2 minute boot is obscene, especially since the codes are kinda still crashy. Bleah. Hopefully there's an update program. :)

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    1. Re:Any idea if it fixes the HDD problem? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like Microsoft updating peoples Xbox to the newest version of Live even if they dont have a live account so they can't easily do the exploit on it.

  3. disc read error by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will this circumvent the disc read error problem all too common with ps2? If so, it might be worth its price tag with that 'feature' alone.

  4. Slashdot might like to know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Something people here at slashdot may find interesting...

    The Sega Genesis emulator built into this new version of Action Replay is based on the source code for Generator, a Sega Genesis Emulator that was released under the GPL.

    Go ahead, look at the website for the new Action Replay, and look at what comes in the box, I'll wait... Didn't find any thing about source code or the GPL? Me neither.

    1. Re:Slashdot might like to know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      So have you emailed them about this? How about pointing out the similarities to them and then asking for the source?

    2. Re:Slashdot might like to know... by Krilomir · · Score: 1

      What if they haven't changed the source - just recompiled it?

    3. Re:Slashdot might like to know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What if they've licensed the code from the author of GPL?

    4. Re:Slashdot might like to know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Err, I meant to say "the author of a Sega Genesis emulator." ;)

  5. Codecs? by M3wThr33 · · Score: 1

    I'm always interested in the media players and what files work. Obviously there will never exist a single one that plays it all, but when they say Divx, do they just mean 5.1.1? Or does it include 3 and 4? Although Divx 5 can playback 3 and 4, there's some files that are "corrupt" if Divx 3 doesn't handle them.

    1. Re:Codecs? by a_peckover · · Score: 1

      I wonder if it will play XviD files as well. It would seem to be the most useful format around at the moment.

    2. Re:Codecs? by Dizzle · · Score: 1

      Good point. I'm wondering if it uses something similar to the ffdshow filter that plays damn near everything (and for the most part better than the official codecs). From the sounds of things it's going to be limited to Divx only. It's a shame too as Xvid is becoming the premiere codec, another example of OSS triumph!

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      "I most likely AM so interested in myself."
  6. Great by Dizzle · · Score: 1

    Now I'm going to get a virus on my PS2 you insensitive clod!

    Seriously though, this sounds like an amazing device. Mod me laterally.

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    -Dizzle
    "I most likely AM so interested in myself."
  7. Re: Disc Read Error -- DIY Solution by showdax · · Score: 1

    No, I don't think so. But you might want to read this if you feel brave enough to fix it yourself.

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  8. But the real question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does it fall in line with other Action Replay devices and allow you to play burned games. Mod me down for that one if you wish, be that's the real reason for these AR devices in the first place. ...

    1. Re:But the real question is... by snerdy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Err... on the PS2 neither Action Replay or Gameshark work as boot disks for copied games or games from another region.

    2. Re:But the real question is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks.

      Since the Action Reply on nearly all other systems (saturn, ps1, etc.) acts as an external mod chip, I was just curious.

  9. Roll Your Own? by polyp2000 · · Score: 1

    To a certain extent Linux Kit users can roll out their own. Using PS2 Reality Media Player (Its possible to run it from the memory card formatted with the RTE.

    Only drawback being not as many file-formats supported as the Datel offiering, and unless you have a modded PS2 (I dont) then you cant read CD-R's. Network play of films is quite good but some of the higher resolution ones can make the PS2 struggle a bit. I'd suspect that playing movies from a CD, and having an actual cartridge developed to do this specifically would eliminate these problems though. Ill probably get this cartridge if and when it comes to the UK.

    Nick ...

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  10. Lawsuit Waiting to Happen by Doomstalk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    From a quick check of Divx Networks' web site, it doesn't seem like Datel is an official licensee. If this is the case, I'm certain Datel will get a cease and desist from them for using their registered trademark. And the Genesis emulation is an even worse situation. About the only way that's gonna work is via copyright infringement. Since Sega is still making money off of things like the Sonic Mega Collection for the Gamecube, I can't see them taking this one lightly.

    1. Re:Lawsuit Waiting to Happen by LocalH · · Score: 1

      The emulation is legal, that part has already been proven in court.

      And since the user, and not Datel, must supply the ROMs, I think they'll be fine. They've probably got more to worry about with that whole Divx thing you mentioned.

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    2. Re:Lawsuit Waiting to Happen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you know there are public domain Genesis/MegaDrive ROMs freely available on the internet? Playing these does not break any laws.

  11. Where are these features you speak of? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey slashdotters,

    I rushed out and picked up the ARMax. I'm not a guy who cheats at games, so I really don't have a use for it aside from the media player, and the sega emulator. Now, it doesn't come with the packaged disc that 1up mentioned, nor does it seem to have any of the features mentioned. Any ideas?

    1. Re:Where are these features you speak of? by Doomstalk · · Score: 1

      Waiting until the new version hits retail shelves would've helped. You bought the old version, rather than the new one.

  12. Datel warning... by PongStroid · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As a very pissed off owner of a "Datel Max Memory" card, I'd suggest everyone be wary of this company's "unapproved" products.

    I went a few months using their required software to copy games from my card to their 16MB card and had no problems. Then I made a mistake, instead of using the software's "copy" function, I used the "move" function to transfer multiple saves instead. Well, "move" actually worked - it moved the saves I selected to their card. But it also completely corrupted the card I was moving from! I lost every game save I had in progress - hundreds of hours of effort - amongst them: Jak II, GTA:VC, THUG, and, most hurtful, Midnight Club II at 100%!!!

    I left multiple, very polite, voice messages with Datel customer service asking for help with this problem. They never returned a call. I eventually got through by contacting their main office number and asking to be transferred.

    There was nothing they could do to help me - and here's what really PISSED me off: She said that they don't suggest moving multiple saves at once. Of course, this is a feature proudly touted in the documentation and presented in the interface. She essentially acknowledged that the software they supply is broken and will corrupt cards.

    Datel customers beware. They ship shoddy software, and their customer service is non-responsive.

    As an aside, this product has nearly destroyed my passion for playing games. As a guy with a full time job, a great wife, and two way cool little boys to raise, I simply do not have the time to replay these games. Just thinking about the loss of effort depresses me and has made me question gaming as a priority in my life. I hope I'll get over it...

    1. Re:Datel warning... by TxdoHawk · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Dude, 3rd party memory cards? Come on. "Thou shalt not buy 3rd Party memory cards unless thou is asking for trouble" is practically the 11th commandment by now. Controllers and other things you can sometimes get away with, but never, ever buy 3rd party memory cards, unless you're completely willing to lose all your data. It's been this way since the PSX, and I don't see the trend stopping any time soon.

    2. Re:Datel warning... by PongStroid · · Score: 1

      Come on? You are making some assumptions: 1) I've never had a PSX so never had a reason to learn/read about the "commandment". 2) I haven't hung around usenet (or game forums) for years now - which is where, presumably, this commandment would have become solidified. 3) When you're 35+, married, with kids, one typically doesn't have a lot of hard-core gaming friends who would share this information with you. 4) I did due-diligence and searched for information on usenet and the web via Google - and didn't turn up any information, IIRC.

      So, I appreciate the warning - but it does not excuse a company from releasing a product with untested software, and non-responsive customer support.

    3. Re:Datel warning... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Just to add this tidbit, third-party memory cards that have the MagicGate logo on them have been approved by Sony. Those without the logo are just bad news. BTW, the approval process was established so that Sony could make money on technology licensing fees for third-party memory cards, and customers could buy them knowing that they should work without problems. If the card you bought has the logo, call the manufacturer and tell them you'll call Sony next, then call Sony if nothing is done (although I don't see how any of this can fix the problem you have). If it doesn't have the logo, your options end with Datel, unless want to try the legal system (it's up to you, but again, it sounds like you have an unfixable problem).

      Even if you aren't a game news junkie, this fact is advertised by Sony themselves on product packaging. They did their part in letting customers know about their memory cards, and you have to do your part in researching your purchases. "Caveat emptor" applies here.

      Same thing applies for GameCube or GameBoy products that do or do not feature the Nintendo Seal of Approval. It might sound a little silly, but that seal doesn't go on unlicensed or untested products. It actually means something, the same thing it's meant since the 1980s - Nintendo has tested and approved this product.

    4. Re:Datel warning... by AltaMannen · · Score: 1

      Official memory cards can stop functioning too fairly easily, ignoring any one warning (there are probably about 50 for autosave titles) for a PS2 save, and if any file has an error the entire memory card will usually have to be reformatted to be used again, so if you are concerned about your save games you should definitely keep a spare card that you backup your saves to regularly. I have no idea why they can't make use of a more secure file format with some sort of recovery feature.

  13. Game Shark Media Player by wickedj · · Score: 1

    I run the Game Shark Media Player. It does a decent job playing mp3, divx, and xvid from my pc. The only problem I run into is if the video is encoded poorly. My pc can fight through it and continue to play, the media player just dies. The other problem I have is the load time on the disk. Sometimes it reads, sometimes it doesn't. Loading takes about 4-5 minutes. Hopefully, the Action Replay will fare better. With the USB connection, it will load faster and more reliably than the Game Shark.

  14. XBOX... by u-238 · · Score: 1

    With a modded XBOX you can already do all that (minus burning CDs) and so much more... emulation from mame to atari 2600, and all consoles in between (even N64), and let's not forget Xbox Media Center, which will without doubt blow whatever Action Replay has to offer.

    /ravenous zealot fanboy mode off

    1. Re:XBOX... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what? You can do all of that on a PC too, but we're talking about a PS2 product here.

    2. Re:XBOX... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can do all that on a modded PS2 also, the thing with Action Replay is that you don't have to mod your console.

  15. A couple of points... by az_bont · · Score: 3, Informative

    Contrary to what a lot of people have stated, the Action Replay cheat devices for the PS2 can play backups and imports... well, the older ones can at least.

    Aside from a few early versions that didn't circulate far, every Gameshark and Action Replay up to the V2 is capable of booting backups and imports, through use of a slide card or similar device. This involves swapping the AR with a CD-R without the PS2 knowing it. Newer versions of the Action Replay will auto-eject, making the swap impossible.

    It was also at this time that the Gameshark stopped being a re-badged Action Replay, and became a re-badged Xploder, a very different cheat device from Blaze. It's clearly obvious that they aren't as advances as Datel - all of their discs are created by cutting part of another legitimate PS2 disc and gluing it to another part containing their code. I've seen Datel's DVD Region X used, and more recently Crazy Taxi. These do not boot backups, although its parent company, "Success", make a Swap Magic boot disc that does - its pretty damn spiffy, too.

    My suspisions are that this product is taking advantage of the homebrew software PGen, a Genesis emulator, and the PS2Reality Player, which plays DivX, MP3 and the like.

    Both of these can take advantage of a new disc format recently discovered, known as UMCDR. It manages to trick the PS2 into allowing you to insert a CD-R without use of a swap trick, and access its contents in any program that been specifically programmed to accept them. Developemtn was ceased a few days after tools and information were released, after the author found out that people were attempting to use it for warez. It didn't work, whatever they were doing, but he stopped work on it nonetheless. The warez guys, on the other hand, still continue to try and exploit it for backup booting.

    What fuels my suspisions is that the author of the UMCDR format stated that a version of PGen (the Genesis emulator) with UMCDR support has been created and should appear on the PGen's website soon. It's been over a month with no mention of it. Not a newspost or anything. The version of PS2Reality Player with support, though, has been released.

    The only bugger about it is that it creates a disc with one audio and one data track, leaving you around 670MB on an 80 minute CD-R for DivX movies, which is 30MB shy of the usual filesizes. Thankfully the PS2 is fully compatible with up to 100-minute CD-Rs. It's just a question of whether this software is.

    The only thing that you currently cannot do without some form of boot disc or modchip is launch homebrew code on the PS2. It's all very well being able to insert CD-Rs of DivXs and Genesis ROMs, but you need to have the software to do something with it. About the closest thing is the PS2 Independance Exploit, which allows booting of PS2 programs from the memory card via insertion of a pre-determined PSone game, but that requires a great deal of work to get the code onto the disc - an exploit installed CD and a friend with a modded PS2 is about the only way to go.

  16. What about DVD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would like to have a PS2 that plays DVD's too.. not only MP3 and DiVX...

    everybody (who is able to admit it) knows that the DVD player in the PS2 sucks ass.. ..sure the quality might have changed when Sony had no cheap drives left.. but in general PS2 sucks as DVD player.. (and i own one ;-)