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Jeremy White And Mad Penguin On CrossOver Office 3

SilentBob4 writes "Today, a review of CrossOver Office 3 (written by Preston St. Pierre) as well as an interview with the founder of CodeWeavers Inc., Jeremy White (written by Adam Doxtater) have been published for mass consumption. It looks like CrossOver Office/Wine has come a long way since the dark ages of Linux science. Congratulations to the developers on both teams on a job well done. The interview with Jeremy is better than any I have seen recently."

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  1. They removed multi-user support! by Dwonis · · Score: 3, Informative

    Argh! Multi-user support is no longer in the standard version of Crossover Office. I'm tired of people assuming that home users don't run multiple user accounts.

    1. Re:They removed multi-user support! by Dwonis · · Score: 3, Informative
      Hmm. It looks like you're right. I paid 54.95 (USD, I think) for Crossover Office 1.0.0 Downloadable.

      I guess I owe the guys at CodeWeavers an apology.

      Although, I *still* think multi-user support should be *standard* with *all* Linux-based software, I'm probably going to buy Professional anyway.

      As a side note, it seems that CXOffice 3.0.0 Standard (not Pro) comes free if you have a CXOffice support extension.

  2. Re:They do Contribute as well by j0hndoe · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's true, and I certainly wasn't intending to minimize that. My post was specifically referring to the value adds that give people a reason to buy their product instead of using the free version of wine.

    They not only contribute, they employ full-time the Wine maintainer! Anyone who disses on Codeweavers for being "proprietary" is either a troll, or doesn't have a good handle on the facts. (probably both)

  3. Article Text by aldoman · · Score: 3, Informative

    Server is dying:

    For those of you who might not be familiar with what Wine actually is, let me clarify. Even though some of us enjoy a sip of wine every now and then, this is not what we are talking about today. We are referring to a package that allows Windows applications to run on Linux... outside of an emulator. Wine uses an open source Windows API (application programming interface) to allow modified Win32 binaries to run in a UNIX/Linux environment, completely free of Windows. Think of it not as an emulator, but more of a compatibility layer, or translator if you will. The status of the Wine project can be found here.

    CodeWeavers is at the head of the pack in Wine development and deservedly so. They produce the most well packaged, capable distributions of Wine available. As Jeremy has stated, development is in the hands of their customer base and supporters. Whatever the customer wants the customer gets, and so it should rightfully be. Mr. White knows his business. You can see which applications are getting all of the attention at the CodeWeavers Top List page, and it's actually pretty interesting to see what apps are getting pushed to the top. Take a look.

    Well, enough of the small talk, let's carry on with the interview. Enjoy!

    Mad Penguin: First of all, I'd like to thank you for taking the time to sit down with us today to answer a few questions. I guess the first thing I'd like to know is more personal than anything... why Linux? What was the motivational factor(s) behind developing software to run Windows applications on Linux?

    Jeremy White: Well, it's a fairly long story. I've always been a geek. I've loved programming on computers since I was 11 and had to sneak into the Radio Shack to do it, and I've also always loved computer games. Early in my career, I grew quite proficient at communications and networking programming. I was working on a project for a customer that had a Solaris system. But, they were across town, and I had to drive over there to work on it, and I couldn't afford a Sun of my own. So, instead, I installed and starting developing against Linux (circa 94 I'd say), and then just migrating the code once it was done.

    So that's when I fell in love with Linux, and when we started having at least one Linux box around all the time.

    Now fast forward to about 1997. One day, at lunch, I'm talking to a few new hires (young kids) that had never played the original Combat cartridge in an Atari 2600. This struck me as horrible
    cultural illiteracy on their part, and so I set off to find an Atari 2600 emulator to correct this horrible flaw in their education. Along the way, I stumbled across the Wine project, and thought that it was the most audacious project I'd seen in a long time. I thought then (as I think now) that if Linux could become a truly Windows compatible operating system, it would allow for an explosion in new computing choices, and I'd get to feel like that kid at Radio Shack again.

    Further, in 1996, I had founded CodeWeavers so I could do work I considered meaningful, challenging, and fun, and although we did some fun projects, I was really looking for a mission. Of course, I had a day job (and a young kid), so I couldn't really do much with Wine then. But I kept dreaming, and then one day, it being the 90s and all, I decided to pursue a business built around Wine and helping people port Windows software to Linux. I successfully landed some venture capital, asked a bunch of the Wine developers to come on board, and that's really how we got started on this mission.

    MP: I'm interested in learning how quickly CodeWeavers evolved into the full-blown business it is today. How long did it take you to realize that it had become an actual business and would require your undivided attention? What was the one even that made you sit back, take a deep breath, and think “whoa I am in over my head”?

    JW: I think I've actually answered that one a bit in the previous question; the truth is that CodeWeavers s

  4. Re:CodeWeavers owns the copyrights by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    > When CodeWeavers convinced the Wine developers to
    > switch to LGPL, they also convinced them to assign
    > the copyrights to CodeWeavers.

    This is totally incorrect. Each and every Wine developper retains full copyright to his work. Thus CodeWeavers is not in a privileged position and must respect the LGPL exactly like all other Wine contributors.

  5. Re:transgamming references by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    it's all about the license.

    Wine switched to the LGPL license, so transgaming can no longer use wine's code without any worrries about what will happen.

    If you google for ReWind, you'll find that most of transgaming's code is going in there. and perhaps some of the people who code for wine also submit their changes to ReWind, which transgaming can use.

    Also, transgaming provides all their code via CVS, with the one exception of the code that handles anti-piracy mesaures. -- Translation: You can grab transgaming's winex and a no-cd crack and play your game. And of course you can play any game that doesn't require the CD or doesn't use anti-piracy checks to see if the CD was copied.

    Many wine folks have a sore spot for transgaming as they never did give back their DirectX code.. but many more are taking initiative and actually improving wine. Games are good with wine :)

  6. Re:Crossover is a serious application. by aussersterne · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm working on a masters' thesis right now and have just used Word XP in Red Hat 9 for nearly seven hours straight, with styles, tables, graphics, footnotes, etc.

    Two days ago, I spent nearly 12 hours straight in Word XP working on a complex document, with revision marks, for use in a publication.

    1) I don't find it to be slower than in its native environment (PIII-900, 512MB RAM)
    2) It has not crashed on me since I installed it several months ago (neither has Photoshop 6)

    I'm sorry you haven't had the same experience!

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    STOP . AMERICA . NOW