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Secondary Exam Results In India Mean An SMS Flood

syrinje writes "The Times of India reported that Indian high-school seniors who took the exams conducted by the Central Board of Secondary Education sent more than a Million SMS messages within a 11 hour period to query the result database and receive detailed examination results. In addition making the results available to cellphone users, the CBSE has also published the results online at a dedicated web-site . Since the results were announced on the weekend, students would otherwise have had to wait for Monday to get their results from their schools. A spokesperson for Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited , one of the operators involved in setting up the SMS result system estimated that they handled 100,000 messages per hour during the day on Sunday and said that "There was no problem in the network due to the heavy SMS traffic and we were able to give subjectwise marks to the students"."

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  1. Wow by Loonacy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's a lot of work for something that really doesn't matter that much. I mean sure, grades are important, but they're not so important you can't wait until Monday to see your results.

    1. Re:Wow by turgid · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When your acceptance into university depends on your exma grades, there can be many sleepless nights between your final exam and the notification of the results. In my day, they came by post.

  2. Re:Ok. by mphase · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Err...that is not racism. Granted racism may also be present along with anger about outsourced jobs they do not really go hand in hand. Even if you wanted to associate some sort of prejudice with anger over outsourcing (which you do seem to want) then it would be a form a nationalistic discrimination. Really all it comes down to is looking out for your own interests.

  3. Re:India Shining!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    this proves the fact that india is catching up with the telecommunications field. few years back in india, having a mobile is a luxury, but now every one carries one.

  4. and the thoughput is: by dominux · · Score: 5, Insightful

    SMS =160 chars max *100,000 messages per hour *11 hours 176,000,000 bytes /11 /60 /60 =4444 bytes per second *8 =35555 bits per second = about the speed of a modem.

  5. Re:A billion people by L.Torvalds · · Score: 0, Insightful

    For a country that cannot feed itself, they sure do waste a lot of time, effort, and money, on SMS.

  6. Re:Just imagine the traffic... by gl4ss · · Score: 4, Insightful

    that's not a sms or tech problem at all.
    it's just a bribery/corruption problem.

    if the officials holding the exam are paid off succesfully what does it matter HOW the right answers end up on the cheaters papers?

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  7. Just saying so doesn't make it so. by Estanislao+Mart�nez · · Score: 2, Insightful
    "Correct closest form" on what grounds? Just because you say so?

    You used the word "nationalism". The notion of a "nation", classically, is tightly linked to that of "race": a nation is a group of people who share certain characteristics: race, language and a homeland. This linkage hasn't evaporated from the folk usage of the term in the USA: Americans, for example, popularly judge Hispanics to be "non-whites" in general, regardless of actual skin pigmentation.

  8. Re:India Shining!! by nshravan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm tired of all the India Shining crap. Being an Indian myself, its embarassing to see my fellow countrymen gloating over this as an example of India Shining. STFU. And posting on slashdot aint a status symbol. Now that I've posted its a pity I cant mod down these idiots.

  9. Re:Too Open by tarunthegreat2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    1. So u have their names. What can YOU do with that? Publish it on the internet?
    2. Pass/Fail status..hmmm... I think most students would be able to figure out if their friends/enemies made it into the next grade, without the help of this website.... As for future prospective employers, you have to provide your original certificates to them anyway.
    Finally, there's a disclaimer on the site saying they're not responsible for any typos, and this site should not taken as the final Word on your grades. Anybody can just deny that the grades in this site are valid.

  10. Re:Results viewable by anyone... by saurabhchandra · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I think thats OK - even when the results are put up on bulletin boards (physical one's) everyone can see all the results.

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  11. Re:Too Open by dedazo · · Score: 3, Insightful
    So u have their names.

    It's "you", not "u".

    What can YOU do with that?

    Take a wild guess as to what I can do with all this. Ever heard of social engineering?

    I could care less, but for someone who is in India it might prove rather useful.

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  12. Re:Too Open by tarunthegreat2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I am in India. New Delhi, in fact. I know Manvendra Singh passed his Exam. I don't know which Manvendra Singh, I don't know where he lives in all India, I don't know what he looks like. And to a non-Indian, you don't even know if it's a He or a She. I would really like to know, What can I do with the information given?

  13. Re:A billion people by torpor · · Score: 2, Insightful


    Not to put a damper on this India-net-testing-ground concept, but I regularly designed systems for ISP's in the US during the 90's that were intended to experience similar work loads, sometimes even greater.

    At one point, a deployed RADIUS setup for one of my larger network clients was getting 40-50,000 hits an hour, persistently, for weeks on end. I slept pretty well in those days, due to good, balanced, working-order network design. An operational network able to withstand millions of hits per hour was a very common requirement, and I often had contractual clauses that would require this sort of load-testing as a payment requirement, so you can bet your melted modem we would scale to those sorts of heights in our design, from the starting gate... /.'ers are pretty proud of their 'slashdot effect', but in my opinion the only thing that differentiates the /. meltdown from any other meltdown is that /.'ers have worked hard to get the description of the event into a modern, contemporary online vernacular. heavy mass loads are pretty common in IT infrastructure, wherever you are in the world, by definition ... its just that those responsible for it either a) do make a lot of noise about it, or b) do not make any noise about it, and just go on with regular business ...

    That said, it sure would be nice to one day be able to say that I was responsible, in some way, for deploying a massively useful, massively used, network topology in the Indian market. I'd be happy to do that for the cultural effect on my CV, not just for the dick-swinging effect of having 'built a network that could withstand India' ...

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  14. Education In India by nate+nice · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've talked to some Indian friends of mine in school about what school is like in India. It's a whole different game there. You basically have 3 options; engineering, business and "other". You don't want to end up in the other part. You must be an engineer (computer programmer et all) or business person and it all rides on your grades. I asked about people interested in art and other similar topics and going to college for something like that just is not an option. In fact they don't have those degress really.

    They would talk about how it is not fun at all but is the way it is. Hell, being a teacher or professor is actually looked down upon, it's amazing.

    My problems with this approach is it seems like people get very 1-dimensional educations and are not put into fields they are good at. Creativity is pushed aside and it's only about numbers. But then again, the "best" wil get through. I think as far as outsourcing goes, this has to be looked at. They really do have a lot of people, and I mean a lot, going for the type of software engineering and IT jobs many of us are looking for.

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  15. Better do push instedad of pull! by patrixx · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Better to have a field on the exam (or in a student directory service) where you can enter a cellphone number. When there is a score to report, the database atomatically sends an sms to that number.
    Saves all the hazzle with a SMS-query interface.
    We have a system like this in Sweden. Works perfect.

  16. While you're there, check out the exam content! by ErichTheRed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If these are end-of-high school exams, no wonder the Indians are taking all of the technical jobs! The amount of math and science knowledge they're expected to have is amazing compared to what it is here. Take a look at the New York regents exam content and compare it to the samples on the Indian website:

    http://www.nysedregents.org/testing/hsregents.ht ml

    When I have a kid, I'm turning it into an education robot...it will do nothing but study from pre-school onward. It's the only way for us to stay competitive.

    1. Re:While you're there, check out the exam content! by taped2thedesk · · Score: 2, Insightful
      If these are end-of-high school exams, no wonder the Indians are taking all of the technical jobs!

      I checked out the sample exams (math and science) and they basically look like hybrids of the SAT/ACT and Advanced Placement tests.

      You can't really compare them to state tests. State tests are written with a much lower standard in mind, because the purpose of state tests is to measure whether students are learning the basic parts of the state cirriculum. Most students (should?) score very high on these exams, assuming that they are written well. (This usually fails in practice, but that's a whole nother story...)

      SAT/ACT and AP tests are specifically geared to rank the abilities/knowledge/whatever of students, and are designed to seperate them into more bins (usually with the largest distribution near the middle - think bell curve. The scores are generally adjusted to make sure the results fit this distribution).

      State tests usually just seperate students into two bins, passing and failing, because that's really the only purpose. If you have too many failing students, then the school loses money because there MUST be something wrong with the schools/teachers/district. At least that's the theory behind the Leave Every Child Behind act.

      The amount of math and science knowledge they're expected to have is amazing compared to what it is here.

      Keep in mind they aren't expected to know everything on those exams... again, this plays into the different goals of state exams vs. college exams. If state tests were SATs, every student is, in theory, supposed to get a 1600. The test is written so that there isn't anything hard.

      AP/SAT/ACT are usually written so that 1/3 of the questions are pretty easy, 1/3 are normal, and 1/3 are hard. They don't expect many people to get a 1600, because if they did, the test wouldn't tell colleges anything. They need to differentate between students.

      State exams are (mostly) important on a collective level, and usually it's the lower part of the distribution that matters. The exams are written to reflect this.