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Remote New Zealand Volcano Sees Dinosaur Alert?

Thanks to BoingBoing for pointing to a ChannelNewsAsia story discussing a 'dinosaur' sighting in webcam pictures of a remote New Zealand volcano. The latest live webcam picture shows the offending creature, with Geonet spokesperson John Callan saying: "Some wag has glued a [toy] pink dinosaur in front of our digital camera", even though "...most people do not go ashore on the uninhabited, rumbling" White Island, east of Auckland, where the webcam is located. Apparently, the dinosaur will stay for now, since authorities "are not planning on removing it, counting on the sulphur and high acid environment to deal to the creature."

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  1. Flintstones... meet the Flintstones. by LostCluster · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm a little surpised the news article and Slashdot are just using the term "pink dinosaur"... is it that hard to recognize Dino from The Flintstones?

    1. Re:Flintstones... meet the Flintstones. by lucifer_666 · · Score: 5, Informative

      He's only purple in NTSC. Here in PAL world, the colour is much closer to pink.

  2. Hah! by Some+guy+named+Chris · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Australian Broadcasting Corporation has a story complete with picture in case of a Slashdotting.

    This is a great hack. It has to be an inside job. How else would they know when the camera takes pictures, to avoid getting caught. Not to mention the exact location of the camera.

    Too funny!

    1. Re:Hah! by trs9000 · · Score: 5, Informative

      well i dont know that it has to be an inside job.
      from this article it says that:

      the webcam is updated hourly and

      the nz team got a lot of responses about the inflatable dino.

      so im assuming this information is known and available to the public and also that enough people follow the cam. i dont know these things for sure cause nz is getting /.ed.

  3. Love the burn-in by zcat_NZ · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you're ever setting up a webcam outside, position it so that the sun is always behind it, not shining directly into the camera for two or three hours every afternoon.

    I learned this the hard way; my weathercam has exactly the same pattern of smokey lines across the sky now too..

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    1. Re:Love the burn-in by uberdave · · Score: 2, Informative

      Perhaps south? (New Zealand: Sun is always in the North)

  4. fact check? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    actually it's not that remote, it's a 40 min boat ride from where i live, tourists go there almost daily (yes i've been too) and it certainly is not fuckin east of auckland!

    1. Re:fact check? by ergo98 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Given the information from a map another poster referenced, would you be happy with East South East?

    2. Re:fact check? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
      although that is a horribly draw map i guess i'll have to.
      try wikipedia for a much better one.
      being a satelite photo it's actually quite interesting in that you can see the fault line:
      • the large lake in the center is taupo which is in actual fact a volcano that blew itself to pieces a while back (one of the largest, if not THE largest, recorded eruptions - the chinese saw it).
      • below and to the left (yes...SOUTH WEST) of that are 2 white dots which are in fact 3 separate volcanoes.
      • now if you draw a line up and to the right, all the way to the coast, there are a whole heap of volcanoes on it - ruapehu, ngarahoe, taupo, edgecumb, tarawere and of course white island out to sea.
      it's actually pretty cool if you climb tarawera you can actually see the mountains lining up either way! in fact if you're lucky you'll be able to see plumes of steam coming from both white island and ruapehu.
      well thats my $0.10 worth
  5. Location by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    White island would be over 150 Miles south of auckland thats a long way in New Zealand Heres a map SafT

  6. White island by lakeland · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, white island isn't that remote. It is a fairly popular daytrip. I'd post photos from a holiday there, but there's no way my 128k DSL line can handle slashdot :-(

  7. Re:"Some Wag"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    White Island isn't a dangerous, lava-covered island. It's actually relatively safe so long as you don't stay there too long and, on bad days, where a mask. Tourist boats go out there all the time, it's just that most of them don't stop off to let people wander around due to the liability problems of having un-educated people wandering around a live volcano spewing out noxious fumes. If you're careful, you can easily get on, attach a Dino, and get off again.

  8. Mirror by davew666 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here is a copy of the photo, as the site is S L O W at the moment

  9. Re:Won't the plastic last despite the sulfur... by arivanov · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not any more. Most companies have learned the lesson that they are too inert and they are not getting enough turnover. As a result modern toy and household plastics have under 5 years of life and become brittle and break due to decomposition and loss of plastifiers. Some plastics are even more short lived (plastic bags have under 6 months of life). So that dino is not going to be there for very long.

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  10. Mirror of the Image by kmfdmk · · Score: 2, Informative

    http://s92169157.onlinehome.us/img/whiteis.jpg
    Mirror 2

    Enjoy, and hey at least this post had a point.

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  11. Re:Mirror of the image... by froschmann · · Score: 3, Informative

    Who the hell modded this informitive? Do you guys even check the links?

  12. Not glued? by Odin's+Raven · · Score: 3, Informative

    I rather doubt this is a small toy glued to the camera, since Dino is currently (May 25 10:00 am NZST picture) casting a rather distinct shadow on one of the rocks.

    Unless, of course, the prankster also glued a rock to the camera... :-)

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  13. It's been there for three weeks by Chris+Brewer · · Score: 4, Informative

    As in the email I sent to the Inquirer in reply to this article, it appeared between 11am and Noon NZST on the 5th of may, as evidenced by these archived shots: 11am Noon. Given the positioning and angle, I suspect someone who has access to the camera and was able to make sure it was lined up correctly.

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  14. Source of figurine identified by cssjunkie · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've been studying this sauropod since thursday, and I believe that it is a plastic pen topper, one of a group of Flintstone pen toppers available on the web:

    http://amres-pics.com/p_asp/a4091.asp

    Here's the topo of the island:

    http://www.gns.cri.nz/what/earthact/volcanoes/nz volcanoes/bookimages/Whit_fig1.gif

    ..and more stuff about it:

    http://www.wi.co.nz/hazards.htm

    The camera is actually located near the beach, about 3/4 kilometers from any active vents, so it's pretty safe and highly accessible by boat. Apparently groups of geology students are sent out there to study, and probably to maintain the camera too. I guess one of them had this fancy topper along, and was struct by sudden inspiration. Since there is likely a pen or pencil under Dino, it will be highly stable against disturbances.

    There is a forum about White island, but in 3 years most posts seem to be blank submits from students "learning" about the island. There was one post a few days ago that mentioned the 'saur, but no other word before that.

    A page on that now-slashdotted site showed the camera setup, and it looks like the camera is just above ground level, matching what's seen in the live image, so I doubt it's faked.

    Compared to some other photos, the island seems fairly quiet right now.

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  15. Re:Won't the plastic last despite the sulfur... by The+Conductor · · Score: 3, Informative

    Plastic bags are made "biodegradeable" by mixing starch in with the resin, which decomposes in sunlight (but not in landfills, oops). The plastic resin persists but only as dust rather than a film. If this Dino is inflatable it is probably PVC, a resin that is easy to mold even if it isn't all that strong. PVC can be surprisingly durable if you add enough stabilizers/UV blockers/plasticizers to it, as would be common for an inflatable pool toy. But the air will perfuse through the plastic and Dino will deflate.

    Early plastics incuded Bakelite, a very stable epoxy-like material that lasted forever, and celluloid, which doesn't last (much to the chagrin of film preservationists). The celluloid stuff is all long gone so when you look at old plastic objects the selection bias makes it look like they used to make everything long-lasting. The cheapest stuff always got brittle because anti-oxidants add to the cost.

  16. Re:How long will that thing last? by mge · · Score: 2, Informative

    5th may, 12 Noon pic here

    5th may, 11 AM pic here

    Current photo 25th May 3 PM
    here

  17. Re:no safety equipment, no brain by Eskarel · · Score: 2, Informative
    They are indeed planning on letting the acid take care of Dino, however they haven't specified how long they expect Dino to last. Given that the perpetrator doesn't seem to have been on any of the hourly updates we can assume that he/she(though likely he) was there for some period less than that. Dino seems to be fine after several days, and a gas mask isn't too hard to obtain.

    As a side note, when was the last time something being astronomically dangerous has ever stopped some idiot from attempting to be funny or cool? I know people who used to hood surf, and all things considered this is probably a lot safer.

  18. Re:no safety equipment, no brain by limegreenman · · Score: 4, Informative

    There are quite a lot of active volcanoes in New Zealand, some of which are fairly frequently visited by trampers (hikers). In the case of White Island, the government funded Geological and Nuclear Sciences Institute (who incidentally part fund the webcam) have the a hazard advice booklet on the web for those who wish to visit White Island: Visitors to White Island should avoid steam/gas clouds, and watch for wind changes that could blow clouds in their direction. Gas masks with acid gas filters are advisable, to be work if gas becomes a problem. http://www.gns.cri.nz/what/earthact/volcanoes/nzvo lcanoes/whiteisprint.htm