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MS Rails On Open Source, Appeals To Gov't Greed

Bill Harper writes "Open source software is a 'waste of money,' a Microsoft executive has said. He goes on to say that governments planning to use it will damage their own economies and that giving away source code is shooting yourself in the foot. What's interesting though is that this is just the latest in a series of nonsense arguments put forward by MS in Asia because it's scared of Linux stealing the market. An early one was that open-source software is anti-competitive!" Funny thing is, the MS executive (Chris Sharp) used to work for Red Hat.

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  1. Perhaps.. by One+Louder · · Score: 4, Funny
    Funny thing is, the MS executive (Chris Sharp) used to work for Red Hat.
    Perhaps he still does.
    1. Re:Perhaps.. by cshark · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, but how seriously can you take a guy named C. Sharp who says companies will be better of with Microsoft?

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  2. Chris Sharp... by rasafras · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...so that's why they named it C#!

    1. Re:Chris Sharp... by CSharpMinor · · Score: 2, Funny

      I had NOTHING to do with this.

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    2. Re:Chris Sharp... by jelle · · Score: 2, Funny

      So the real name of this guy is Chris Hash? Smoking something?

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  3. Waste of money... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is that "waste of money" like in beer?

    1. Re:Waste of money... by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 4, Funny

      Great. Now some jerk is going to make a crack about "pissing away our future."

  4. Only in Microsoft-land by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Can "free" be a waste of money...

  5. Economic Risk of Open Source Software... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Um...I guess we'll need less sysadmins per network. Patching and virus cleanup would be a bit easier, requiring less manpower and less time.

    Stability and reliability means less work for the IT industry...thus an economic hit. Saving money is definitely bad for the economy. Whose economy, I'm not sure.

  6. Re:Very Interesting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    (just leave out the details of how he corrupted your girl if that's the case...)

    Unless you have pictures ;)

  7. Re:MS = Prostitute ? by hpa · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Software is like sex - it's better when it's free."

    - Linus Torvalds

  8. Not worried at all by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    So, Microsoft is not at all worried about open-source software destroying its market control because they are damaging themselves and no one is using open source anyway.

    And this is exactly why Microsoft doesn't make big number of this non-existent piratewarez called Open Source. No one is using it and we are not concerned about that. At all. Please change back to Microsoft and stop using what you don't use already.

  9. Re:MS = Prostitute ? by One+Louder · · Score: 4, Funny

    I thought the *prostitute* was the one that was supposed to be screwed, not the client.

  10. "a 'waste of money,'" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    "a 'waste of money,' a Microsoft executive has said"

    And by God, if anyone can recognize a waste of a customer's money it's Microsoft!

  11. Re:Right... by antiMStroll · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...And governments using MS products aren't damaging their own economies by ....

    Sending money to a foreign company? Not all governments are American. Hell, I'll venture most aren't.

  12. Re:to the contrary, it's a more efficient use of $ by Spoing · · Score: 2, Funny
      1. Their site alone is a fairly good support tool. There aren't nearly as many resources, comprehensive or not, for Linux support. That's not a flaw of Linux - it's just history and inertia. As Linux becomes more mainstream, there will be much better free/generic support.

        Mid-size and large companies often have support agreements (for a hefty price, but it's usually effective) with Microsoft. Call 'em up, get a person, and sometimes you'll get a fix just for your problem. Kinda makes you wonder what drives their patches - the future implications and risks, or the immediate buck behind the phone call?

      Annonymous Coward: You are completely fucking delusional.

    LOL! Out of the mouths of 'babes'!

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  13. Re:What is "Fear"? by name773 · · Score: 2, Funny

    a base version of windows that had enought functionality to be useful
    that's nice, but they'd have to write it first.

  14. obligatory "In a related story.." by Keck · · Score: 4, Funny

    in related news, health food causes cancer, according to a McDonalds spokesperson

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  15. And the Asian government reps just nod and smile.. by B747SP · · Score: 5, Funny
    And the Asian government reps just nod and smile and say

    "Yes, yes, you Americans have very large penis!"

    .. then duly ignore the stupid American who is trying to tell them how to run their country and go off and do precisely whatever it was that they intended to do before the stupid American started mouthing off.

    I just love the way Asian folks do business. It varies a bit from country to country of course, but generally, they'll make a nice polite show of pretending to give a shit about the rubbish the stupid American is spouting, then go quietly back to whatever they were doing before, unmoved. It's fun to watch the religous types pushing their word in Chinatown anywhere. The victims listen politely, nod and smile, and go on their way. The religious types read the situation to mean that because (a) no-one told them to f*ck right off, and (b) someone nodded and smiled at them, that they're getting their message through. This is why Chinatown precincts are always more clogged with religous freaks than elsewhere in any given city.

    Here in Sydney, Australia it's generally the Morons pushing their false religion with their stilted crash-course Chinese. They're incapable of picking what nationality any given Asian person is, so they try to talk to everyone in Mandarin Chinese (very few people actually speak Mandarin here in Sydney, it's a predominantly Cantonese thing here). It's amusing to wander along 10 metres behind them, watching them greet random people with their "Ni Hao" and a big cheesy smile and all the wrong intonations, and watch the victims return the greeting with a polite nod and smile, then crack up laughing once the Morons (mormons?) have passed!

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  16. Re:First they ignore you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    then they laugh at you,
    then they fight you, (we are here)
    then you win. ...then you beat the living hell out of them. Then you raze their compound. Then you take all their code and release them to the world as comic relief for CS students.

    Until then, just be sure you grep your own source code for "MS Engineers are Weenies" so it doesn't look TOO bad when the revolution happens. :)

  17. Re:from the article... by Jaysyn · · Score: 3, Funny

    I bet his Karma sucks too.

    Jaysyn

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  18. Windows gives out source also by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Windows is open source also, well not legally, but now it is :) I guess everyone running windows should do what Microsoft said and shoot yourself in the foot now. Bill Gates should shoot himself in the head.

  19. Give back to the community?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    '"If you are compelled to give back to the community, then you don't have the opportunity to benefit from that knowledge,"'
    -Chris Sharp

    This statement is absolutely spot on. After all, what benefits could possibly come from sharing information and knowledge?

    The same argument should be used to end the cheap/free distribution of HIV drugs in Africa. After all, who benefits from research into saving lives if those lives are saved without reasonable profit margins?

    In fact we should put an immediate end to free condom distrubution, because somebody had to work very hard indeed to come up with the design of the resevoir tip. Nobody benefits from condoms, especially free ones.

    Libraries should also be dismantled and the books therein burned. If you want the information, you should have to buy the books, because otherwise nobody benefits.

    As a former teacher of English in the developing world I am appaled at my own past behaviour of occasionally offering language instruction for free. Clearly nobody at all has benefited from this compulsion to 'give back to the community'.

    I fully agree with Mr Sharp (with his delightfully descriptive name) that all information should be propriatary.

    If someone wants to know, for example, how I am on any given day, I simply tell them that the information belongs to me, but I offer a range of scalable licensing plans to allow access to that information. Who could possibly benefit from me saying 'I am well' without proper remuneration?

    Unsecure research, open communication, and 'giving back to the community' have done nothing since the beginning of time except stifle innovation and harm consumers' interests.

    As a result of my new dedication to Knowlege (TM), I am pleased to offer the following innovative products that no consumer can do without:
    I Am Well (TM)
    Making Fire (TM)
    Boiling Leaves to Make a Tasty Beverage (TM)
    Conveying Heavy Objects More Easily with Narrow Cylinders (TM)
    Making Pleasing Sounds by Striking Membranes under Tension (TM)

    Futher products are in developent.

  20. Re:MS = Prostitute ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    You've obviously never been with a prostitute in Soviet Russia.

  21. Re:MS = Prostitute ? by Halfbaked+Plan · · Score: 2, Funny

    For I am only a lonely slashdot subscriber.

    Then where's the star after your username? You're no slashdot subscriber!!

    (in case anybody wondered, yes, having a 4-digit or less Slashdot UID and/or a star after your name gets you laid regularly **)

    (** but you better develop a liking for those bearded dudes who hang out in the back of the room at the LUG meetings)

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  22. Honorable officals by GoClick · · Score: 2, Funny

    Honorable officals, as you can see FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD Open Source FUD FUD This simply can't be the case! FUD FUD FUD We must stand up against this and FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD You're wasting your money on these people who don't know what.. FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD Here have some cash oh and some FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD

  23. Re:Funny? by Fuzzy+Bo · · Score: 2, Funny


    Of course, we all know what the pipes that the plumber installs and the software MS builds have in common...? They're both full of !

  24. Re:Funny? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    And for all that cost, Visual Studio still hasn't got half the functionality of emacs...

    Yes, of course. The very few IDE's have as many capabilities as Emacs - setting breakpoints, watch windows, Memory Windows, etc is a breeze in Emacs. The only MS product which comes anywhere close is probably Notepad.

  25. Re:Funny? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    Yeah. I love the license plate frame Wired says Linus has on his Acura SUV:
  26. Re:Funny? by El+Kevbo · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...you also can't visually design a GUI with Emacs!

    Fool! Don't give them any ideas! Do we really need to add more things into Emacs???