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The DDR Workout - It's Official

webster1 writes with a followup to a recent Ask Slashdot question. "An AP news story just released says that Dance Dance Revolution is becoming the weight-loss routine of choice for many young gamers. One quote says '"At first I was playing it for fun, but when you see results you're like, Yeah!" said Matt Keene, a 19-year-old from Charleston, South Carolina, who used to weigh more than 350 pounds and wear pants with a 48-inch waist.' It's for grown-ups too. Even Jason Enos, product manager at Konami Digital Entertainment-America, which distributes the game in the U.S., has lost 30 pounds playing the game. There's even a site for DDR wieght loss fans: www.getupmove.com - My wife and I have been playing for months now with this goal in mind, though we aren't yet seeing these results." (A post from a few months ago talks about getupmove and gives some calorie-burn specifics.)

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  1. arcade games by tsunamifirestorm · · Score: 5, Funny

    i used to get a workout from playing old-school arcade games, the ones where you had to press buttons 10 times a second. on the other hand i'm sure eating pizza and drinking soda more than counteracted any sweat i produced.

    1. Re:arcade games by Hatta · · Score: 4, Funny

      Man, I'm getting the urge to pull out the power pad and play some track and field about now.

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  2. Wow by kdougherty · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's right Jenny Craig, you're going down! Quickly buy your own DDR and get rid of that stair master!!!

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  3. Man, too bad by bigben7187 · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's too bad im an uncoordinated computer geek...

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    1. Re:Man, too bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's too bad im an uncoordinated computer geek...

      The whole point is to become coordinated. Were you a really good typist when you were born? Did you know how to type at all? How'd you type out that sentence? Most geeks I know are better than average gamers, and faster than average at typing. What improved those skills? OMG....WHAT?.... PRACTICE?

      What lead to maintaining that practice? OMG..... WHAT?.... COMBINING IT WITH STUFF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN?!?!?

      Don't be down on yourself.

    2. Re:Man, too bad by Jeremi · · Score: 5, Insightful
      The whole point is to become coordinated.


      I too thought that at first, but it turns out the real skill you learn from DDR is how to enjoy looking silly in public. Even if you never get the coordination, being able to set aside your natural nerdly inhibitions (without the aid of alcohol) is always a good skill to have... :^)

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  4. Yes...it does work by bigman2003 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm not sure how it could NOT work.

    If you do DDR for 45 minutes, 4-5 days a week, you'll be losing about 2 pounds every 3 weeks.

    Worked for me, and my daughter.

    You should be getting up to about 180BPM near the end of your workout- not sticking to some 130BPM songs.

    For me, having the Xbox version, and downloading new songs was a lifesaver- otherwise I would be completely bored of the songs.

    And finally- you won't lose anything if you are using the controller! Get a good dance pad!

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    1. Re:Yes...it does work by nobodyman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Gotta agree with this one. DDR wasn't the cornerstone of my health plan (also trying to eat less and do weight training), but I found it to be a fun way to unwind after work and get decent aerobic workout.

      Personally, I think that DDR is a very good thing for the industry.

      -it broadens the gamer demographic (my aunt thought the ps2 was the devils work, now shes a ddr junky).

      -it served as a shot-in-the-arm to the arcades. Don't know if it will save them, but hasn't hurt nontheless.

      -finally, the media writes a story about a game that hasn't inspired someone to go on a shooting rampage!

  5. Damn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Man, since this is Slashdot wouldn't you expect the article be about computer memory when you see 'DDR'...

  6. StepMania by Thatmushroom · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is the perfect time to plug StepMania, an open source version you can get here. I'm not a developer, just someone that enjoys short techno songs and a frantic workout.

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  7. Site is run by RedOctane by Trillian_1138 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm not saying DDR can't work for weight loss, or that getupmove.com or the AP story aren't valid. However, the site is run by RedOctance, a DDR pad supplier. Check out the contact information for getupmove.com or the suggested pads under 'Get Started.'

    Again, I'm not denying the posibilities of using DDR for weight loss. After the Ask Slashdot thread I downloaded StepMania and am seriously considering buying a pad and USB adapter becasue it does look like tons of fun. I just think it's important to be concious of where you're getting your information...

    -Trillian

  8. Re:Hmmm... by rsmith-mac · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm sure he could, but where's the fun in that? The whole reason that this DDR workout and similar programs are taking off is because they're fun and hard work, as opposed to a "low impact exercise regime", which is as boring as it sounds. Sure, a regime like that would be better, but for most people, they'd rather have fun doing a sligtly less effective workout, than to be bored to tears being effecient.

  9. PyDance by steveha · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is a free software version of DDR, written in Python. It used to be called PyDDR but now it's called PyDance.

    You can play it with a real dance pad, or just play it with your keyboard. I suspect you will not lose much weight if you play it with your keyboard, however.

    http://icculus.org/pyddr/

    steveha

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  10. It Really Works by TJ_Phazerhacki · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's true! I used to laugh, say I would never play this game. And now, 2 months of DDR have me not only looking better, but feeling better as well. I am active in general - Football and Wrestling - But DDR has something neither of those have. The biggest problem with exersize is it's repetitived nature. But when you can practice a form (specific Dance) and recieve real time data based on your accuracy, it encourages it to repeat. So far, my only health conern has been the sheer addictiveness - I landed wrong on an ankle after a 4 hour marathon session, and was out for a week. But in general, the experience has been nothing but positive. Hope the next one is online - how about a /. competitive league?

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  11. It's two fold. by ctime · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just imagine, not only will you be sweating off those 3 extra big macs you ate for lunch, but you'll also be providing hours of endless laughter and entertainment those around you!

  12. And it is relatively cheap... by SnakeJG · · Score: 4, Informative

    Most slashdot readers probably already have atleast an original Playstation (and if not, used ones can be had for around $20 to $30 or the computer version of DDR can be used). Throw in the cost of a good dance pad (~$50) and the game (another $20 to $30), and your workout system only costs you ~$100, including the cost for a Playstation.

    I suggest a dance pad like the one above, because the form insert really helps cut down on the strain on your joints (a must if you are going to be DDRing often as a workout)

  13. Excercise != Weight Loss by Max+Romantschuk · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ultimately weight loss is not about how much you eat or how much you exercise. What you need is a negative energy input, on in plain English: You must burn off more calories than you take in.

    The reason this works for some and not for others may well be the fact that people naturally increase their energy input (eat more) when their energy output (exercise) increases.

    But regardless of if you loose weight or not, any activity causing your pulse to rise will make you more fit. Which is a good thing.

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  14. Re:Again? by jpmkm · · Score: 5, Informative

    Read the first goddamn line of the writeup. Specifically the part where it says that it is a followup to the story you linked to. Yes, slashdot is sponsored by a fucking game. You figured it out.

  15. Stop drinking sugar! by dybdahl · · Score: 5, Informative

    The biggest problem for most computer gamers I know, is that they drink cola with sugar and eat candy bars. Their biggest arguments for not drinking diet coke are: doesn't taste well, aspartam is dangerous for your health.

    They simply don't get the priorities right - being overweight is much more dangerous than drinking diet coke! The only way to lose weight is to consume less kilojoule (4,18 Joule = 1 Calories for those Americans who don't understand the metric system) than you spend on living. If you want to continue drinking sugar-cola and eat candie bars, you really have to do a lot of exercise!!! - more than most people with that kind of weight problems can or will do.

    Personally I lost 15kg in 5 months without doing any exercise, without any special plan for what I eat, just by replacing coke with diet coke and removing all fat and sugar from my meals, replacing food with low-energy and diet products. At Christmas 2004 I expect to have lost 30kg, and spring 2005 I expect to have lost 35kg, and then I have reached my ideal bodyweight and will have to do something to keep my weight up :-)

  16. Bikes are pretty fun too... by tentimestwenty · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sometimes I like the Old Fashioned fun of getting outdoors and riding my bike. Of course, I have a GBA duct taped to my handlebars so I can have some real fun. It's fairly low impact... most of the time.

  17. I can vouch for the title by vsage3 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've been playing various versions of DDR (as well as Stepmania) for about two years. I couldn't even jog a mile, heck I couldn't walk it without cramping up, but since then I've been able to pass pretty much every song (sans Paranoia Survivor Max Oni), and through this, I can now run a mile in less than seven minutes. I wasn't ever fat to begin with so unfortunately I don't have any I lost 100 lbs story, but wow, having not done any other physical activity besides type on a computer for close to 6 years (when I quit soccer due to lack of being in shape), I can run a freakin 6:40 mile. Hail DDR in all its nerd-refining glory!

  18. NEWS FLASH!! by Graff · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bull Smith
    BS Newswire

    In the news today, teenagers have discovered that moving around alot helps you to lose weight.

    "I tried the pizza dieet, the deep-fried pork diet, and the ice cream diet. Nothing worked until I spent hundreds of dollars a week playing Dance Dance Revolution!" said one formerly husky girl

    Adults were a bit confused by the whole affair. One fit mother exclaimed "You mean they pay to dance? I've been doing that for years without paying a dime!"

    This phenominon has already spawned a whole new industry. Entrepenurs have in the works a dollar bill treadmill/slot machine combination for gambling adults as well as a bicycle that takes credit cards and which commuters can rent by the day in order to get fit on their way to work.

    1. Re:NEWS FLASH!! by October_30th · · Score: 5, Insightful
      That's a pretty funny post, but I'd like to point out the rules for successfully incorporating exercise into your life:

      The first rule is "whatever you do, it must be fun".
      The second rule is "whatever you do, it must be fun".

      Anything else is secondary. Here some kids have found a fun and effective way to exercise and it'd be almost criminal to bring them down by pointing out trivial matters like associated costs.

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    2. Re:NEWS FLASH!! by defile · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The first rule is "whatever you do, it must be fun"

      When I started High School I used to be slightly overweight but physically "able", with lots of energy. Over time High School wore me down with misery and then I got into computer jobs and I was sitting down 96% of the day. I looked around one day and found that I was now considered obese and couldn't run more than 100 feet without becoming exhausted.

      I've been trying to find some way to get exercise but nothing seemed to stick. I gave up on going to gyms after a month (it was just so dreary). My doctor recommended running but I gave up on that pretty quickly too since it was so boring.

      Ultimately, I found what works for me is martial arts. Right now I'm studying Taekwon Do and managed to stick with it for eight months. I've gotten stronger, my stamina has improved, I'm learning to kick some ass, and best of all--it's fun! My wife and I go to classes together. My scale weight is still about the same, but I've added some muscle mass, so it means something must've been eliminated, right? Maybe it was fat! Awesome!

      Conversely, the most shocking part is how long it's taking me to regain the strength and stamina that I had when I was 16. After eight months of training I'd say I'm only 20% of the way back to how I was. And even that wasn't impressive, I couldn't do mile runs or chinups -- I still can't. It's going to be a long struggle before I'm as physically fit as I want to be. But for the first time ever I have hope.

      I owe my myself and my wife a future where we're in our 70s and want to go out with the energy to experience life. Not sit at home and watch TV because we're too weak to do anything else--burdening our loved ones with our troubles. We're all lead to believe that being elderly means that you simply have to be exhausted and weak all the time. It doesn't have to happen, most people just let it happen.

      If I can impart wisdom on some of you youngsters (I'm fucking 24 and I can call people youngsters, jeez), it's this: don't go into school or the workforce and forget about your health. Making the A or getting the paycheck will seem like the only thing you can focus on, but you'll ultimately regret letting yourself go.

      I know someone in their near 50s who can't go up a flight of stairs without needing to rest 20 minutes on the couch afterwards. She only has enough energy to stay upright for about 30 minutes a day, and if she runs an errand that takes more than an hour she has to take a nap afterwards.

      How much time would it take her to get her vitality back? Five years? Maybe she can get it down to three if she puts her entire life on hold? It'd be a hopelessly monumental task for her.

      The poster is absolutely right. It must be fun It must be fun. Find exercise you enjoy, otherwise you won't do it. Your future is at stake here, don't let it go.

      Now, if I could just find a fun diet...

  19. Re:Work smarter, not harder. by MonMotha · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, but there are hidden codes, at least on older mixes.

    On 3rd mix, to play Maniac difficulty (called SSR for Step Step Revolution), you had to do "left left left right right right left right" on the select arrows before beginning the game. Then you probably wanted it on vivid (rather than the default of flat) which was "left right left left right right left right" on the actual pad.

    There's a whole bunch of other hidden options too (hidden, sudden, stealth, turn, etc). The codes are readily available, but can be hard to remember, especially if you normally play newer mixes (DDRMAX and newer have an options screen) that don't need them.

  20. Stop poisoning your body by mabu · · Score: 4, Informative

    I agree with you but why stop there?

    I recently decided to stop drinking soft drinks and go for water (Mountain Valley Spring Water), and I also noticed that I had much more concentration, my sleep schedule became more normalized and my attitude was generally more positive.

    It's not just sugar. It's the myriad of chemicals that we put in our bodies in massive quantities that screw up our body chemistry. Dropping sugar may help with caloric intake, but it doesn't address the more serious problem that we're constantly poisoning our bodies with chemicals.

    You don't have to be a vegan, but you can choose to shop where they sell meat and produce that isn't bathed in pesticides, antibiotics and other things.

  21. Don't be afraid of looking silly! by Trurl's+Machine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think you made a very important point. The problem of pathological shyness is often related to the neurotic anxiety that could be described as "OH MY GOD I'M GONNA TO LOOK SILLY IN PUBLIC AGAIN". I think every geek and nerd has experienced this kind of panic at least once. It's like when a gorgeous girl approaches you and says "Hi, how are you?". If you are too much afraid of looking silly in public, you'll get that kind of panic, the panic will eat your tongue and you will probably mumble some uncomprehensible "Um... errr... ahem... nice... I mean, fine... I mean, ok... I mean, cough, how are you....". Then you'll start to realize, that the fear of looking silly in public made you actually look silly in public and then you will feel very silly. In public. So the panic will incrase and you will look even more silly (in public).

    But if you get rid of that fear and STOP being afraid of looking silly in public, you might just have a friendly laugh with the gorgeous girl and say something like "Now, that was surely the Guiness top ten of the worst small-talk ever... speaking of Guiness, can I get you something to drink?", and the problem will be gone. You would no longer look silly, because you HAVE LEARNED HOW TO ENJOY IT!

    1. Re:Don't be afraid of looking silly! by Sv1ad · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think every geek and nerd has experienced this kind of panic at least once.
      Don't stress, there are girls out there who actually like nerds.
      Disclaimer: yes, I am female, no, there is nothing clinically or physically wrong with me, no you cannot have my phone number. :P

  22. I tried your idea by krumms · · Score: 5, Funny

    Me: *slightly slurrish* Hi, howsh thingsh?
    Gorgeous Girl: Go away. Not interested you drunken son of a bitch.
    Me: *laughs heartily* Well, that was shurely the Guinessh top ten of the worsht shmall mrshnahmblah ... *eyes slowly, and very floppily blink* ... Shpeaking of Guinessh, reckon there's any chance I'll get a lay outta you tonight? Like, if I buy you one or ... *hic* ... shomething?

    And that's all I remember :/ Next morning I woke up naked next to the pub's seventy year old bar hag.

    Thanks a lot man.