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12GB CompactFlash Cards Coming Soon

Anonymous Photographer writes "As Digital Photography Review reports, Pretec will release a 12 Gigabyte CompactFlash card by the end of the year... for just $14,900. Of course, you could save $14,300 by purchasing three Creative Labs Nomad MuVo 4 GB MP3 players and removing the Hitachi 4 GB microdrives to get the same amount of CompactFlash storage. Heck, I'll do the CF removal for you, at the low price of only $10,000. Think of the money you'll save." And for those seeking a different sort of windfall, VL writes "With MuVo 2 shells going on the cheap now, now is as good a time as any to pick one up and installing your own Compact Flash card to get it running again."

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  1. Price will come down. by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Heh. You can laugh all you want about the price, but wait until some 19 megapixel camera appears that requires about a gig or so per photo, and there will be photographers waiting outsite the camera store an hour before opening so they can get their hands on one, and I mean quick.

    And even if that doesn't happen, I'm sure the price will come down a LOT in the coming months, so even if the thing costs about a grand or two, a lot of pros will buy this if it saves them time while on a shoot.

    And seriously, if you think this is expensive, I know a photographer who drives his junky van around to photo shoots with over $100,000 of professional equipment in the van, and that's only what he'll need on this shoot. In his shop, he probably has over a million dollars worth of photography equipment. This money doesn't grow on trees. It's what he's acquired throughout his professional career, by doing what he loves to do.

    Funniest thing: I asked him where he got the money for all this. He said: If you want to have this much worth of equipment, not just in photography but in anything, all you have to do is focus only on that area and find every way possible to become as good at it as you can, and then to improve the field in every creative way you can imagine.

    1. Re:Price will come down. by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I couldn't decide whether to mod you up or reply. Reply won. Sorry.

      $4000 seems a little low in some respects, especially if you want to be digital. However, the guy that replied to you stating that a single lens would be $4000 is a little off base. You don't have to have the fastest, most low dispersion lenses to start with. It all depends on the kind of photography you want to do. I have friends that shoot professionally, and believe it or not they sometimes use plastic toy cameras. Of course, this is the exception, but it does show that creative endeavors (commercial ones at that) don't have to cost a fortune. And, you can have all the gear in the catalog and stil be a crappy shooter.

      Tech is an answer to a technical problem, not a creative one.

      From what I've seen photographers can be (mostly) divided into those who love the gadgets and know how to compute the hyperfocal distance and those who have an idea of what kind of image they want to create. By far, those in the latter category produce the most interesting stuff.

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      http://www.rootstrikers.org/
  2. Bla Bla by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Of course, you could save $14,300 by purchasing three Creative Labs Nomad MuVo 4 GB MP3 players and removing the Hitachi 4 GB microdrives to get the same amount of CompactFlash storage.

    Or of course you could also save $9,320 by buying three of their 4GB CF cards.

    Obviously the 12GB card is not targetted at folks who don't mind swapping their CF cards.

    What's amazing is how they are able to continuously increase the physical density at a rate that exceeds (= faster) than Moore's law. It will be interesting to see what happens to reliability figures.

  3. Quite the opposite, really... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Virtually all professional news photographers use digital cameras. Being able to use a laptop and a mobile phone to create and send instant contact sheets to show your editor which photos he has to pick from is far more convenient than heading for the nearest development lab.

    I think you'll find that most pros (at least most of those who have to worry about things like deadlines) have embraced digital photography, and for reasons beyond picture quality. That's not to say that picture quality is an issue with the high-end cameras that these guys are using, only to reiterate that it's the convenience and flexibility that going digital affords them that are the overwhelming reasons why most pros have abandoned film cameras.

    --

    "Accept that some days you are the pigeon, and some days you are the statue." - David Brent, Wernham Hogg
  4. Re:Who? by johnthorensen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Who would ever need a view camera? Who would ever like to shoot photos that can be printed at mural size?

    Answer: Lots of folks. Not a ton mind you, but enough that the demand has already been proven on the film-technology side of the aisle.

    Not everyone is a sorority girl shooting party pics to be emailed or printed out at 3x5...

    -JT

  5. pros and digital by SuperBanana · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Aren't most pros still using film, making the ammount of people willing to spend that much money on a CF card even smaller?

    You are joking, right?

    Any pro who hasn't gone digital by now is pretty much out of business and never will be in business again. Customers vastly prefer digital in most cases. Pros who claim they're faster/better with film are outright lying to save their own skins; digital offers instant previewing of composition, exposure, and focus (btw, don't buy a digital camera without a histogram mode in the review function!) Even in the studio, medium format and large format digital backs (one such company is Leaf, another is Capture1) are getting more and more common, with astounding image quality. Given how much MF/LF film costs, studio photographers LOVE digital backs.

    When a 512MB card will hold 60+ 6+mp compressed RAW images (ie, straight from the CCD, no processing, far better than JPEG) and costs under $150, it pays for itself almost overnight...especially since you can't, with film, sit during a second or two's downtime and flip through what you've taken and blow away anything that's obviously not going to cut it. With film, you can't send the image across the world within minutes- with digital, it's pretty damn easy, as long as you have some internet connection (many photojournalist types have unlimited-transfer GSM phone accounts, just to be able to transfer images to the service bureau, although less time-sensitive stuff is done via fedex, either the CD-Rs or the memory cards themselves. Yes you can fedex film, but a)the photographer knows what's on it already, and b)within 10 seconds of it arriving via fedex you can be editing the images in photoshop- film, you've gotta wait at least an hour before you've got negatives).

    This 12GB card isn't for photographers, I can virtually guarantee- they won't buy it, ignoring the absurd pricing. Many don't use anything larger than 1GB cards, for the simple reason that they don't want to put all their eggs in one basket- if a card fails, gets lost, stepped on, or accidentally erased, well...I'd rather have that be 1/4 of my shoot than ALL of my shoot.

  6. Re:Hitachi drives not a viable option for pro phot by Andy+Smith · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Oh really? :-)

    I use a Canon 1D for sports photography (4Mb files @ 8fps in 16 shot bursts) so I require fast write times, and I use microdrives.

    Microdrive write times are fractionally slower than solid state storage but they are also half the price.

    Microdrives being more fragile than solid state cards is a much bigger issue than the write times. Some pros won't touch microdrives because of the perceived vulnerability to shock damage but for most practical purposes the write times aren't an issue.

    Also you should consider that some cameras don't write to storage at the fastest possible speeds. For example, my 1D can write 16*4Mb files in the same time that the new 1D Mk II can write 20*8Mb files to a card of the same speed. All this talk of write speeds is somewhat irrelevant when you realise that even some of the high-end cameras don't write at the maximum speed.

  7. Re:Microdrive vs. flash by Large+Green+Mallard · · Score: 3, Interesting

    http://digitaljournalist.org/issue0111/biggart_int ro.htm

    Bill Biggart and Bill Biggart's Microdrive had the World Trade Center fall on them. The Microdrive was recoverable. Bill wasn't. This little story allayed any fears I had about Microdrives.

  8. obviously no real world experience by SuperBanana · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Even a ten mp camera's picture isn't amazing if you really want to blow it up.[snip]you can make some pretty big pictures (small-medium poster size with 10mp--which is just about the max

    Funny. I did an 18x20 print (pro lab, not inkjet) for a friend of a cropped photo off a 6.3mp Canon 10D.

    It's gorgeous, and you're talking out of your ass, my friend.