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Sun To Upgrade Java Desktop System

Posted by Hemos on from the playing-catch-up dept.

An anonymous reader writes "The second version of Sun's Java Desktop System should be unveiled this week, according to this article. And as part of Sun's effort to entice programmers to its new software, the new JDS software will include the Java Studio and NetBeans developer tools." The JDS is their Linux desktop system.

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  1. oooh, netbeans by jbellis · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Java developers already know where to get Eclipse, the free IDE started by IBM but spun off into a community project. a survey by O'Reilly recently showed Eclipse to be used by over 60% of java developers (including me, so I guess I'm biased -- but I use emacs almost as much) while NetBeans is used by under 20%.

    So it looks to me like Sun is trying to pull a Microsoft and hope people use the bundled product even if it's inferior. But like I said, Java developers already know where to get Eclipse.

  2. Why? by Espectr0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why use JDS when there are better, cost-free alternatives?

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  3. +1, Insightful ! by Gothmolly · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Thank you for not screaming that Sun must PROVIDE the sources with JDS. As everyone (should) know, the GPL only mandates that you provide a means for the end-user to acquire the sources.

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  4. Re:Get a clue, Sun by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The product has a lot to do with Java. Its SUN's attempt to push a Java enabled development environment out of the box. Many of us have positive attitudes towards Java so there is a certain logic to doing this. I admit I have not looked at Nettbeans for a while but I remember it being ok, if a little slow and probably better suited to newbies and Visual Studio crossovers than Eclipse.

    As a side note if OS products were judged on their names alone no one would use the majority of them.

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  5. Re:JDS: Linux today, Solaris tomorrow. by oconnorcjo · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Linux is a nuisance to Sun. It's really a shame, because Sun has done (or acquired and re-released) some great things: NFS, Java, OpenOffice... but they're so stuck on Solaris that they just can't handle the fact that it's all about Linux now.

    Linux is a hard pill to swallow for Sun. The margine of profit off of anything Linux is small in comparison to anything they sell with Solaris. Sun knows that Linux is the future but Sun also knows that means thier profit margins are gone as well. They are doing more with Linux because they have to but they are doing it "kicking and screaming".

    Sun knows it has no choice but to join the community but it will take any opportunity to stab it in the back if Sun thinks it can find a way "back to the good old days" (like when they paid SCO and blabbered it to the press). It is not just McNealy. How do you explain to investors that your future is to be a cross between DELL and RedHat but without the large volume of sales that Dell gets?

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