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HP Announces Support For MySQL, JBoss
Chroniton writes "According to InternetNews.com: 'HP stepped up its commitment to open source software Monday by pledging to offer and support the MySQL database server and JBoss application server software in its servers' - it's also mentioned: 'The deal is truly symbiotic. While MySQL and JBoss get backing from a technology driver such as HP, HP gets the added credibility of being cozy with open source, a label many enterprises and HP rivals, such as IBM and Dell, are working toward.'"
Great news, but...
Anyone know why MySQL as opposed to a more standards-compliant db like PG?
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I don't read much into this.
HP has always jumped back, forth, and sideways in their "embracing" strategies. One day, they'll promote Java, the next day you'll hear nothing about it. Same with Linux. Compare that to IBM - they have a strong, consistent, stance on both Java and Linux.
Part of this inconsistency is likely due to politics behind the Compaq merger. But it's gone on longer than that - for example, whatever happened to all their embedded consumer devices (I think it was branded "cool city")? All this indicates HP has big political problems, which is causing it to lack any direction.
IBM have WebSphere and DB2
Oracle have 10gAS and Oracle 10g
SAP have Netweaver and SapDB
Microsoft have
HP abandoned their old App Server and have worked out how to get good mindshare for low investment on a new one.
Pretty smart move by HP as it puts them back in the "solutions" market and tied in with their SI business means they have a real opportunity in the custom build market.
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Why not just use Postgres and be done with it? Better and it's really free. :-)
What are you asking here for? Call Dell and ask them. When enough people do that they will probably provide it. One issue would be driver support on their higher end systems, another would be what distro should they provide, there will only be moaning if geekoid the geek cant get his favourite distro pre installed and I imagine supporting several distros would be a major pain in the ass for Dell. I would think Dell would rather provide an unformatted drive and an installer dvd of your requested distro and dump the install grief on the enduser.
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This is obviously a sign that they've found a cure for that pox upon the tech sector, NIHS or Not Invented Here Syndrome. I estimate, based on absolutely no data, that NIHS costs the US economy billions of dollars.
HP showed signs of beating NIHS with their iPod deal with Apple. With this announcement they have shown that they have a cure for NIHS, at least in some quantity.
People and corporations with NIHS, unlike normal people, have an unfounded fear of technologies they didn't invent. It is related to paranoid dylusion. Countless hours and money is spent recreating technology that has already been inveted by someone else.
It is yet to be seen if HP will sell their NIHS cure to other companies or keep it for themselves as a competitive edge. However, even if they do decide to sell the cure it is likely that most people and corporations will fear the NIHS cure and attempt to create their own.
IBM is already very very very open source friendly. Sounds like HP is just jumping on the bandwagon. Selling support for OSS software isn't really "cozy" either - it's just leaching onto a growing market share. Call me when they start contributing to the code in a meaningful way, or helping folks no IRC.
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Consumers IMO deserve printers that will last more than a year. There's a difference between a consumer product and something that's just cheap. With regards to the DVD writers, HP promised all of their customers that they'd be able to upgrade the firmware on their first generation writers to support DVD+RW when it was available. When it did become available, they erased a bunch of documentation from their website, denied they ever said it, and made people buy new writers. I've seen this same tactic used in the PocketPC market with their iPaqs as well as other hardware - they design their products to try and generate monthly residual rather than building a good product.
Come on folks, look at the bigger picture. Look at the two projects they are going to support, MySQL, and JBoss.
Now look at their competitors products (IBM) Websphere and DB2 products. The reasons have to be more than just jumping on the bandwagon with open source. IBM has two products that are similar to the exact two projects HP chose to help.
All is fair in business, but HP isn't going to throw money at projects just to claim they are on the open source bandwagon. I believe the direct intent is to improve MySQL and JBoss to go head to head with IBM on this one.
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IBM is already into OSS in a big way, was Chroniton born yesterday?
HP is (was?) an innovator, Dell is.. well, like McDonald's, sorta. Doesn't taste that good, isn't as cheap as it should be, given the quality (or lack thereof). But thru marketing you always hear of them, and lots of people simply buy their [usually inferior] products.
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I suppose that it's OK to support something like mySQL, which is so clearly inferior to PostgreSQL, if such support is demanded.
However, if clients are asking for advice, are you telling them to go with mySQL because that's what they want to hear? Or are you leveling with them and telling them that PostgreSQL is far, far better?