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Sony Exits US Handheld Market

10999 writes "Today Brighthand reports that Sony will no longer develop and sell Clie handheld models to the United States market. Most certainly that means no more Clies for Europe, too."

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  1. Dumbasses by metamatic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, if they hadn't removed the Bluetooth from the TH-55, I'd have bought one. *sigh*

    Now I have to wait for Palm to come up with something comparable.

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    1. Re:Dumbasses by swordboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, if they hadn't removed the Bluetooth from the TH-55, I'd have bought one. *sigh*

      Once again, people seem to be forgetting that Sony doesn't cater to the "one percenters" here on slashdot. The fact of the matter is that Sony probably put a lot of money into researching this decision. I bet that they've found that most of the market will be going into PDA phones and the like.

      If you haven't worked in an enterprise environment, then you haven't witnessed the dominance of Blackberries as of late. This is the future. Combined with Intel's upcoming personal server, people will have a "local replica" of all of their data to take with them. As they say in Soviet Russia, "the PC will log onto YOU". It won't matter if it isn't your PC - as long as it is "digital briefcase" compliant, it will wirelessly recognize your personal server and give you the option to log into your data set.

      Nice!

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    2. Re:Dumbasses by torpor · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Blackberries may be popular in the United States, but in the rest of the world everyone has moved on ... to smart phones.

      Of course, the convergence from PDA to phone and back again is not without its detractors...

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  2. Japanese have all the best toys by pubjames · · Score: 4, Insightful


    In my recent visit to Japan, I saw loads of technology that isn't in the US yet. Why is this? Yes, I know that it is stuff that is manufacturered by Japanese companies and so it is natural that it should appear there first, but Japan seems to be the best stuff several years before the US. Is the USA not a good market for tech gadgets?

    The miniature laptops I saw just rocked, and I can't believe they wouldn't sell in the US.

  3. Battery too small for wireless by tburt11 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    All of the handhelds that I have evaluated do not have a long enough battery life to be useful.

    A full time radio connection (wifi is an example) requires significant power resources.

    Handhelds don't have the power.

    The small Sony laptops are more appropriate. They have a useable keyboard, and they almost fit in a jacket pocket

    1. Re:Battery too small for wireless by biglig2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      For goodness sake, there may be no significant change in your usage, but the hardware needs enormously extra ammounts of power! You've got a 320x320x65K color screen in it for one thing, even before we start to talk about the vastly increased RAM and CPU speed.

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  4. Handhelds are dead! by midifarm · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I think the handwriting's been on the wall on this one for quite a while. It's become more mainstream to carry your laptop around and or your cell phone has the ability to store all your addresses and such. I've stopped using mine about a year ago in favour of my iPod. Granted I have to enter everything via my computer, but that doesn't bother me too much. I don't feel the need to carry around another $400 device just so I can have the luxury of scribbling in a name or two in my device on the fly. RIP PDA's, we loved when you were around!

    Peace

  5. Are they moving to another horizon? by Clinoti · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I think with the recent developments in Mobile phones technology, smartphones and other types of PCDs (personal communication devices), Sony may be staying their hand for entry into another concept or approach to this market.

    Their exit is extremely strange, but until we get more corroborating articles, I'm going to stick to that thought.

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  6. Due to the rise of next generation mobile phones by Master+Of+Ninja · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The next generation mobile phones are really what killed the PDA. If you have seen the high end phones some are PDA like (Sony Ericsson P900), and even the medium range now has very good organiser and synchronisation facilities. Combine that with Java expandability and there is not much need for PDAs for most people.

  7. PDAs are transitional devices anyway by btharris · · Score: 3, Insightful

    i think the handheld pda as we have known it has really just been a tranistional device anyway. its purpose, as history may remember it, was to bridge the gap into more versatile devices such as what mobile phones are becoming (and have become already). the major features of newer pdas are wireless networking capabilities such as bluetooth, 802.11, etc. but what about the most well-established and well-known networking capability of them all---the telephone? now that's wireless. just use that.

    of course i think it's rather sad to see such a well designed line of products come to an end (i personally have a sony clie), but surely sony is aware of the larger issues. the newest coolest thing they came out with was the UX-50, which when i first looked at it, i thought of it as a sub-sub-notebook. it just runs Palm OS and you can't upgrade any of the hardware. for the cost (US$600) you could easily get a bad-ass mobile phone that does all you'd need anyway---and it's a phone.

  8. Market Slump by Wog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Even the article suggests that the trimming of the PDA field was not unexpected, given the flat sales. And the reason is made clear by talking to PDA shoppers or even looking at this thread: Everyone is fine with what they've got.

    I'd be freaking lost without my PDA. I used a Palm 3 that I was given for a little while, then bought the Visor Deluxe when it came out, and used it until just recently. When it finally died (backlight failed) I dropped $90 on a Clie SJ-22. It's a great little PDA with a very bright white backlight that's on by default, 16meg memory, reads memory sticks, etc. I'll use it until it dies some horriffic death (hopefully in a few years) and get whatever is simple, cheap, highly-reviewed and well-supported.

    I guess the point I'm trying to make is that people use these things primarily for their original purpose: to *organise things.* The vast majority of PDA users might *like* color screens, mp3 playback, cameras, etc. But when they get to talking about it, you soon understand that they still mostly just want it to keep their lives in order. It's interesting that even many one-percenters on /. seem to be the same way. I love new tech just like anyone else, but it's a lot cheaper for me to play with the neat gizmos seperately, and not have my mishaps affect my PDA. Any other thoughts?

  9. Re:Probably going to focus on PSP. by blueZhift · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I agree, given the aggressive launch schedule Sony is trying to follow for the PSP (fall 2005 US I think), shifting resources to PSP makes sense. It wouldn't be surprising if a lot of the Clie people were working on PSP too.

    It is also likely that the PSP has a far greater profit potential than the Clie too. For the Clie they only get money on hardware and probably not too much since they have to pay PalmOS licensing fees along with competing with a dozen or so other PDAs. For PSP, they will likely lose money on the hardware but more than make it up in royalties paid by game publishers for the system. If Nintendo's success in the handheld console market is an indicator, then PSP could make some major dough for Sony.

    As for battery life, etc..., with the Clie people working on PSP, I like their chances. They've got experienced, talented people and a clear target and path laid out by current portable king, Nintendo. So on the whole, I think dropping Clie to focus on PSP is a good bet. This isn't Game Gear again by any means. Sony has far greater resources than Sega ever did and has shown that they know how to fight in the games market.

  10. LCDs? by muel · · Score: 3, Insightful

    wait wait wait - you're on to something, but you're missing the A1 numero uno priority for Sony to do this. Let's follow the train of the latest news in portable hardware, shall we?

    Sony wants to claim a huge stake in the handheld gaming market, and they know that the opening sales of the PSP will be pretty indicative of how the console will do down the line. Big launch will mean big boost in reputation, and then more third parties to develop for the PSP, more sales, yadda yadda.

    However, this article points to a huge possible dent in all systems portable this year due to a tighter supply of LCD screens. the linked article talks about Nintendo, I know, but it still drives the point home: Sony has to prioritize its allocation of LCDs, and it has to do so ASAP.

    Pretty big judgment call on Sony's part to give up a decent PDA marketshare in order to go full-force on the PSP. But, then again, considering how much $ they can pull not only with PSP sales, but also games, music and movies (many of which will come directly from Sony studios/records/etc), it seems like Sony has quite a forward-looking financial plan, and this move to re-allocate LCDs is proof positive of such forward-looking. Even if the additional movie/music stuff doesn't lift off in the States, Europe and Japan are ripe for such sales, so don't scoff at that notion too quickly.

  11. Re:why carry more than one thing? by aussersterne · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why carry (and recharge every night) two pocket-size electronic devices when you can carry just a single one that does both?

    Because a PDA should have a screen large enough to be useful. But that means that you may not want to carry it around all the time-- when you go on vacation, for example, or if you're just making a run to the convenience store for a twelve-pack. But of course you do want to carry your phone around all the time. Most phones right now will easily fit in a pants pocket unintrusively enough that you can jog or take a nap on a couch with them on your person. But a usably-sized PDA? Not really.

    A headset? What if you're talking to someone about something and you need to pass the conversation for a moment to your friend, standing next to you? Much easier with a traditional form phone factor. What if you're backing up a full PDA and flash card and you want to make a phone call or go somewhere while you wait for the backup to complete?

    What about battery life? Generally, you want your phone to be on all the time... but you don't want your PDA on unless you're using it, in order to maximize battery life. You've had a heavy day using your PDA at work and the battery is almost gone, but luckily work is almost over and you're going out with friends right afterward, you just need to call them to arrange a meeting place... d'oh! Battery dead, no phone all evening, unless you go home first and charge your PDA. Or feel free to reverse the scenario.

    As usual, the integration of two devices means significant compromises for both.

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