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Stallman vs Ken Brown

An anonymous reader writes "Richard Stallman has become the latest person to speak-out about Ken Brown's "independent" study of Linux, which accuses it of being a Minix/Unix rip-off. Stallman says Brown deliberately confused the Linux kernel vs the GNU project, although I suspect Brown simply didn't know enough to be able to differentiate between the two."

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  1. Just publish the report already! by CodeMaster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm just dying to see this so called "academic study" of the history of Linux and the Open Source community get to see the light of day, and get tarnished so badly by everyone.

    Mr. Brown is up for the ride of his life (probably the last one as I can't imagine anyone taking him seriously after his paper gets out).

    Stop being afraid of reviews and books - the truth will let itself be seen...

    (sorry for the karma whoring - this just drives me nuts!)

  2. Pre-Release Copy by Andrevan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Cynicism Personified got a hold of a pre-release copy of it, and we posted some similar editorial.

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  3. Re:what MS funded "study" about Linux isn't FUD? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In defense of TFA, it never once mentions "GNU/Linux". I think it does a fairly decent job of making the point that the GNU system and the Linux kernel are two separate things, without having to explicitly hand-hold the reader.

    And about MS funding "studies": the ones that aren't FUD are the ones that we never hear about. I will bet my reputation as an AC that Microsoft has paid independent researchers to conduct a test, and thrown out the results when they didn't get what they wanted. It's not a conspiracy, it's just forum-shopping. In the spirit of bad Slashdot analogies, it's like getting a second opinion from a different doctor.

  4. Unbelievable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can't believe I'm reading comments complaining about Stallman's use of the "GNU/Linux" moniker, when this whole Brown debacle highlights how important it is to differentiate between the GNU system and the Linux kernel.

    Typical Slashdot reaction to a post about Stallman without understanding a single thing the man says.

  5. Re:what MS funded "study" about Linux isn't FUD? by cbr2702 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Usually arguments about "Linux" vs "GNU/Linux" are nearly pointless, but in this case they matter. Linus wrote most of Linux-the-kernel but not most of Linux-the-operating-system. Brown takes advantage of most people thinking of "Linux" as Linux-the-operating-system to make people think that Linux couldn't possibly have written "Linux" in six months. This is a prime example of equivocation .

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  6. Open source accountabilit by DuncanE · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One thing that stood out to me in this article:

    "Torvalds' recent announcement that, in the future, Linux kernel contributors will have to certify the origins of their code before it can become part of the kernel."

    Why?

    Why do open source projects have to prove this for each piece of code? Proprietary projects dont have to do this right? But open source projects always have the code available for the world to check over.

    Surely Linus should just accept any code and leave it up to any companys who own and IP it may infringe on to chase it up? Thats why we have patents, copyright etc right?

    I cant believe that the SCO lawsuit and MS FUD has lead to this... extra work for Linus.... he should be left to concentrate on producing kernel code not dealing IP issues.

    Fine, MS can continue to charge as much as they like for their OS, but from now on it should include the source code so we can check the codes "origins".

  7. Boggles The Mind by bsd4me · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The thing that boggles my mind about all of this is that it seems like Brown thinks or wants to convince others that Linux ``magically'' appeared in a robust form.

    I started using Linux in December 1991 with version 0.11. Stable and mature aren't quite the words I would use for that version, especially when you consider that I had to reinstall it about twice a day and it didn't even have login or a proper shutdown command.

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  8. Ken Brown is an Intellectual Property Pirate! by corporatemutantninja · · Score: 5, Insightful
    New flash: Ken Brown didn't invent his book! He may have "written" it but he didn't invent it! It's simply impossible that somebody could invent a new language and a new vocabulary in the 6 months it took him to write that book.

    Want proof? In the entire review copy there isn't A SINGLE WORD that hasn't been used by other writers, sometimes writing on the VERY SAME TOPICS that Ken Brown writes on.

    By the way, I'm trying to be "Insightful" more than "Funny"....

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