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Recording Industry Hopes To Hinder CD Burning

Decaffeinated Jedi writes "News.com reports that the recording industry is currently testing technology that would limit the number of times that a given CD (or copies of that CD) could be burned. The idea is to let consumers 'make a limited number of copies of their music -- enough for a car, a vacation home and a friend, for example -- without allowing for uncontrolled duplication.' Currently, Macrovision and SunnComm International are developing competing versions of such 'secure burning' technology, with BMG Music Group already testing the latter company's software."

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  1. Survey Says... by calebb · · Score: 3, Informative

    Survey says... people don't like DRM.

    2002 Lawsuit againts SunnComm

    Good discussion on DRM
    The problem with trying to protect information with technology is that it has been shown repeatedly not to work. It only takes one person to crack the protection, and a million people can get a digital copy of the cracked work in days. During DEFCON, a digital security conference held in America last year, a Russian programmer called Dmitry Sklyarov illustrated this by showing how easy it was to circumvent the protection on Adobe's "E-Books". For this service to the public and to Adobe he was arrested and tried by the FBI, under the provision of the DMCA, the American version of the EUCD already part of US law since 1998.

    Obviously, the same problem exists with the technology Macrovision & SunnComm are currently proposing. It just takes one person to create a DRM-less digital copy & post it on the latest P2P network...

  2. Um... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
    The copyright holder still owns the work, not the public.


    Um, no... the copyright holder does NOT necessarily own the work (e.g. if they decide to sell it to me), they own the sole right to copy (that what copyright means) said work. They do NOT have a right to tell me how/when I can use their work, except in the case of me trying to distributing that work (or work derived from it) -- they do NOT have any rights beyond that.
  3. where is the real piracy? by Pastis · · Score: 3, Informative

    I am sick and tired of seeing things like that. Where is the real piracy?

    I am currently in a country right in a center of South America. It's been impossible to find a real DVD. CDs are hard to find but it's possible.

    You can find a reseller of pirate material every 10 meters in the street. Students in schools sell copies of duplicated material to pay for their studies, or to make parties.

    E.g. Troya sells for under a $.

    Here nobody buy original content. So I maybe am a pirate because at home I have some copies of CDs I didn't buy. But it's not many and I don't even use use them that often. The CDs I like, I have original versions of them. I have my share of paid CDs (over 200). Does that make me the bad guy? Not sure when you see what's happening in 90% of the world.

    Yes I see the argument of those saying: but you have the money to buy the CDs. People there don't have it. I will answer to that that they have sufficient money to get as drunk as us, to buy themselves a CD player, a DVD player or a VCD player.

    I don't even have a real DVD/VCD player at home, appart from my computer's drive.

    I think all the piracy talk is bullsh!tt.

    They cannot change the mentality there, but can send us to jail or pay heavy fines if we break the law once.

  4. Re:furthermore... by RevDobbs · · Score: 3, Informative

    man 1 dd

    How is a raw, bitwise copy of anything going to degrade over time?

    ... and when this turns out to be the solution, how long will it be before some one ports dd to Win32 & adds a nice GUI to it?

    CD's aren't 'secure', and I don't see how they can be made 'secure' and backwards compatible. The (industry) perfered medium for distributing music is going to have to change before they can really enforce any kind of non- or limited-copying scheme.

  5. Re:I really wish they did. by dabadab · · Score: 3, Informative

    But - what license?
    You know, none of the stuff that you have listed needs any license since the right to do so is already granted by the current copyright laws (or at least in most countries - the UK may be an exception)
    The "content industry" is trying to brainwash us into thinking that we do not have any right to copy. But we have.

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    Real life is overrated.
  6. Re:I really wish they did. by chris_mahan · · Score: 3, Informative

    Profitable: Per CD sold, they are profitable. Of course. But they are selling less CDs.

    If you have 2 options: Net $10M doing A and net $8M doing B, and you chose option B, even though you are $8M richer than before, you still lost $2M.

    It's the difference between accounting and economic profit.

    Music is a tradeable good. Tradeable goods follow the laws of the market.

    Competitive pressure exists: I have 5 gigs of music. They are competing for my time. I want to listen to something new more than I want to listen to something I already have? I have 50+ hours of music already (plus a 5 foot high stack of CDs I haven't ripped yet). When I want to listen to something, I don't rush to the store to buy the latest and greatest. I launch winamp and scroll. If nothing catches my fancy, then I look in my CDs. If nothing there either, then I figure I'm depressed and I go get a book and sit down to read, or call a friend. I rarely if ever get the urge to go buy music at $16 bux a CD (or 9).

    This is their competition: existing, already sold music.

    Just like microsoft and office: people don't want to pay $399 to get new software since the old software is already bought (sunk cost) and does mostly the same.

    Music is the same.

    If people build their 2000 track music collection off p2p, then the music industry has a hard time enticing them to buy anything new at the store.

    For me, the price has to be $4 or less or I won't even consider buying.

    And it's not because I can't afford it, it's just that new music is not that valuable to me anymore, since I have so much music already.

    (I plan to spend 30 on LOTR's ROTK, like I did the other two, since there's nothing like it out there. I'll even buy the original star wars trilogy DVD)

    I haven't bought a music CD since Sting's "Desert Rose", and even then I was not extremely impressed.

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    "Piter, too, is dead."