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Dealing with the Unix Copy and Paste Paradigm?

MolecularBear asks: "I grew up on Windows machines, using the ol' ctrl-c to copy and ctrl-v to paste. For the past few years I've been a hardcore Linux user, running it almost exclusively at home and at work. As I am sure you are all aware, highlighting text in Linux automatically performs a copy while the middle mouse button performs a paste. The Ctrl-c, Ctrl-v standard works in many applications, but not all. Lately I have begun to find the automatic highlight-copy to be annoying. As in, I'll highlight text to copy it, then realize I want to highlight a block of text for the purpose of deleting it. Of course, the second highlighting overwrites the first highlighting. I am curious about how other people accomplish their copy/paste needs. Any special setups, applications, or words of wisdom?"

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  1. This is a usability problem... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Whew, glad to see I'm not the only one .. the whole "click middle button to
    paste" thing drives me NUTS.

    I started computer life as a Mac user. I think one button is the simplest and
    most elegant way to design a mouse. I think mod-C and mod-V is the easiest way
    to cut & paste (one hand on keyboard, one on mouse). I also have big hands and
    fumbling fingers. I very often paste garbage into Mutt or other programs (for
    instance, extremely critical SSH sessions to production machines) in my
    Konsole windows. Hold breath, wait 2 seconds for the beeping to stop, paste
    text into another window and try to figure out if I just emailed porn to the
    client or sent /boot/kernel-2.4.25 to the printer.

    I even whipped out the soldering iron and replaced the Omron tactile switches
    in my trackball with the stiffest they had a digikey. It did help a little.

    And I also have dealt with the slight confusion that results after I highlight
    something, whip over to another window, and realize that I have to select
    everything to delete it first, which trashes the selection. Thankfully,
    Control-C/V works in the programs that I usually do this with.

    I bet most people don't even realize that X11 actually has more than one
    "clipboard". Did you? There is nothing in the interface that suggests I should
    have a mental model of multiple selection areas. Only after learning about
    Vim's keystrokes for accessing the various buffers did I realize what was
    going on.

    I just wish I could permanently and completely switch off this "feature" of
    X11, in all programs. I'm not stupid, I've been using X11 nearly daily since
    1990, and I've been screwing it up since then. Apparently just bringing this
    up in public is enough to condemn a person to flames, but there it is.

    Dear X11: please join the rest of the world and shed at least one of those
    buttons. Get rid of multiple clipboards or whatever you call them. I don't
    need it. My grandmother doesn't need it. Maybe some geeks have trained
    themselves to need it, let them figure out how to turn it back on.

    And while we're on the subject can we please standardize Control-C vs. ALT-C,
    etc.???

    (And yes I wrote this in a terminal and selected/pasted it with the button.. because Control-C doesn't work in the terminal!)

  2. Complain! by ChipMonk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The best thing you can do is to complain to the developers at X.org, GNOME, and KDE (and whatever other desktop systems you know of). They need to hear this stuff, from many quarters, before they'll actually do anything about it. I think that X.org is probably the best place to start, given that development-oriented nature of the fork.

    As a slight correction, the copy-paste problem you describe isn't a Linux issue; it's an X Window System issue.