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VisiCalc Turns 25, Creators Interviewed

Xaroth writes "It's hard to believe that it's already been 25 years since the release of one of the world's first 'killer apps.' 1979 saw the creation of VisiCalc, the first microcomputer-based spreadsheet and the single application that launched widespread computer use among businesses. To remember this event, PC World has published portions of interviews with the three co-creators of the modern spreadsheet: Dan Bricklin, Bob Frankston, and Dan Fylstra. Alternately, check out the Software History website for more information on this and other historical bits."

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  1. They needed databases, too... by wizbit · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Don't forget DB Master for the Apple II. Sold several million copies - a modernized version of it is still used in public works offices around the world, even 20 years later.

    The original author still does DB work for this company.

  2. Small fact... by networkGhettoWhore · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I dont think the article mentioned this, but VisiCalc was also the first (known) enterprise app to be ported from the Apple OS to a *Nix based system.

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  3. Some Special on TV by aliens · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I remember watching something about the early days of PC's and there was an interview with one of Visicalc's creators and he discussed the first time he showed it to an accountant.

    The accountant supposedly started visibly shaking and proclaimed "Do you realize just how much time this will save me??"

    I just found that bit interesting for all the people who hold onto "the good old days" and question if computers have really helped or hindered us.

    In my mind I try to imagine just where we would be if we still only had large main frames. The power of the PC is truely amazing.

    (sorry just got back from a workout and am high on endorphines (or whatever they are))

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    1. Re:Some Special on TV by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What's interesting is that it doesn't actually save any time, it just means that they do more, and different kinds, or financial reports.

  4. too bad they didn't GPL it by argoff · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Boy, if they would have, it would have stopped alot of the anticompetitive business practices that's happened in the 25 years since, they could have locked out execl before it even happened.

  5. Other Small Fact... by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I dont think the article mentioned this, but VisiCalc was also the first (known) enterprise app to be ported from the Apple OS to a *Nix based system.

    Some time ago there was the question raised concerning ownership and transfer of patents, etc. of the spreadsheet, which everyone and his kid brother eventually made their own version of. IIRC the creators didn't feel they actually sold all rights or something to that effect (sound similar to the SCO/Linux debacle?) Anyone know what has been determined in that regard? Seems if it was still unresolved it would make SCO/Linux look like a tempest in a teapot by comparison.

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  6. First Programming gig... by bokmann · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I didn't even realize it until I saw tihs article, but my first programming gig was with Visicalc...

    It was 1982, I was 13, and a guy paid me $50 to create a spreadsheet for him that would let him calculate his cost per share of some stock he was buying over multiple purchases (dollar cost averaging).

  7. Re:VisiCalc vs. Microsoft Multiplan by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anyway, it's interesting that one of Microsoft's first attempt to unseat a software application was targeted at Visicalc. Did they succeed?

    Nope. In fact, Microsoft kept failing at spreadsheets until long after Lotus 123 became popular. It wasn't until Microsoft was able to leverage Windows that they finally gained a foothold. Of course, that's a story in itself.

    Interestingly enough, the whole Windows story has a lot to do with VisiCalc. You see, VisiCalc took all their hard earned money and put it into creating a piece of software known as VisiOn. VisiOn was the first PC GUI for DOS. Given that Graphical User Interfaces had been the domain of expensive Unix machines, this worried Microsoft a great deal. So they announced Microsoft Windows.

    In typical Microsoft fashion, they really didn't have anything. But they managed to spam the media and make everyone put off purchasing VisiOn in hopes that this mystical "Windows" would be a far better investment.

    The early betas of MS Windows were actually nothing more than a way of multitasking different DOS apps. By pressing certain keys, you could switch from one "Full Screen Window" to another. About that time, Apple introduced the world to a true WIMP interface. This caused Microsoft to change directions. When the first version of MS Windows was delivered, it allowed for multiple programs to run in tiled windows. One window could be maximized at any time, thus obscuring the other windows. To be blunt, this sucked.

    Windows 2.0 was only slightly better, but it sucked too. Windows 3.0 finally hit the mark by delivering a full WIMP interface and a program manager. Why Microsoft thought the program manager was a good idea when the Macintosh showed otherwise, is a mystery that will forever remain unsolved.

  8. Re:jEdit beats the pants off it by OscarGunther · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The spreadsheet is productive, very. In fact, it doesn't mimic paper+calc+pencil for doing banking, it superceeds it.

    And yet VisiCalc was designed to mimic a real-world operation. IIRC, industrial planners used to have large blackboards divided into grids and each square in the grid could hold a number or an equation. When a number was changed in one square, all the dependent squares had to be recalculated. Of course, the concern was that something had been missed. I believe Bricklin heard one of his professors describe this process and chose it as his model for what eventually became VisiCalc.

    I think I read this in Cringely's Accidental Empires.

  9. Re:Lotus Improv by I_M_Noman · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Lotus Agenda, another reportedly supercool application that you can only read about today. I wonder how many other revolutionary applications Lotus developed and later buried?
    You're correct -- Agenda was beyond cool. It remains my favorite piece of software ever. Damn, that thing ran my life for about three years. Then Lotus bought Organizer from Threadz and killed off development of an Agenda for Windows.

    As to your other question, let's see...Agenda was best-of-breed, as was was Magellan. I always liked LotusWorks better than MS Works on a DOS platform. Improv absolutely killed on the NExT, but was slow as shit on Windows. Oh, let's not forget Notes, which, when I saw it for the first time in '91, caused me to say "Well, that's the future right there."

    Ami Pro, while a terrific program, wasn't developed by Lotus. They bought it from Samna around the time that 1-2-3 r2.4 and r3.5 came out. Then they bundled it with those products (and a runtime version of Windows). I was convinced that Ami Pro was the coolest word processor I'd ever seen. I think I still am.