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Sun will Open Java's Source
bckrispi writes "An announcement from Sun spokesman Raghavan Srinivas indicates that, contrary to what we've heard in the past, Java will be Open-sourced. "We haven't worked out how to open-source Java, but at some point it will happen," Srinivas said."
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It is news, but you have to read between the lines. It is showing that Sun is desperate for any and all attention, especially good attention now that most people have figured out that Java sucks.
Help! I'm being repressed!
Hm, or maybe it's beyond hope.
You once again prove my point that anyone with a slashdot UID 15000 is an idiot.
You phoquing moron.
1. A rather intelligent conservative who understands that the majority of Americans will be offended by the zealotry and ultra-left liberalism displayed there with the comparisons of Bush to Hitler.
2. A stupid liberal who just doesn't get it.
Based on your statements regarding your understanding of how Sun operates and the market share that Solaris has, I would guess that you fall into that second category - you've certainly proven your stupidity.
Go suck an egg, red-diaper, doper baby.
Are you serious? I'm pretty sure that "idea" has been completely undermined many times over already.
and you linsux nitwits dont know much about it
at what point does an irrelevant company lose the ability to make relevant news.
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Often, the open source community has a very narrow and selfish view when it comes to certain things. Like, why make software easy to install, like OS X? No need- any Linux user (present or future) is smart enough to compile his own software, resolve dependencies, etc.
They're not being paid enough to do the grunt work. Most of them aren't being paid anything. They still manage to do an amazing amount of work.
If you define that as selfish, I expect you'll be out sinking the boot into your local charities next.
A person has to ask- could the OSS community ever have produced a gem like OS X? Could it have produced Java? OSS has the skillset, some of the sharpest folks on the planet. But who is keeping them coordinated? Who is the CEO with a single, cohesive vision?
Sounds like a great argument for fascism over democracy. "We need a leader who can make the trains run on time!"
+4, Insightful? Bah. Why don't you move to Singapore? You'd like it there.
deus does not exist but if he does
Sort of like the French?
I'm sorry, but are you under some impression that being involved in the free software movement is morally and ethically akin to fighting against slavery, for civil rights, for world peace, or some other ACTUAL NOBLE cause? Its hard to tell but it sounds as if you actually believe any of this OSS stuff actually matters in the long run.......
Mac OS X and Windows XP working side by side to fight back the night.
"who gives a shit".
.asp then .net then all the other open langs like ruby/parrot/python/perl.
... to write a windows application... that doesn't mean Microsoft won't FUD you into buying $1000s worth of useless development tools. I mean afterall if you're next application is not .net then well your clients will wonder why they're not getting "leading edge technology".
.... won't prove that you can actually develop product.
Honestly. To me Java has always been one of those "lets make a language that solves problem people don't have" languages. And of course the boon on Java turned into the Boon on VB then MFC then
Next thing you know "software developers" have 23 books on their shelf because lord knows if you can't program in at least a dozen redundant programming languages you're behind the curve and incapable of developing a good product.
What people often miss is that most languages [.asp/.net/C# for instance] are just developed *solely* to keep the attention on their OS. In the case of Windows you could already write *any* application using the same API they had for 3.1 with a C compiler and resource editor. You don't need VB or MFC or
For SUN this is just some publicity stunt. Wait till they actually do release it and see what license they pick.
Other than slowly loading cpu-hogging web applets [mostly games but I've seen a few decent educational ones] Java has no place on the desktop or elsewhere.
Hopefully what will happen is some wannabe big-wig OSS developer will take over Java development [on sf.net of course] then add 100 random features [like Java needs a DWIM statement] and halt development as soon as he gets his name in the press somewhere. The project will then stagnate and people will finally just let Java die and move on to the "next big language of 2005 (tm)".
People really ought todo themselves a favour. When you're first getting into "programming" it's useful to be exposed to several langs [I suggest Pascal and C...] but you really ought to settle on one for main development. I mean sure it pays to know sh and perl scripting but learning C++ then C# then Java then
Tom
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