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Ken Brown Responds to His Critics

An anonymous reader writes "Yes, I know it's getting boring by now, but the truth must be told... the latest Unix celebrity to come forward and criticise Ken Brown/ADTI is Unix pioneer Dennis Ritchie. The gist is that Brown is claiming an 'extensive interview' with Ritchie but this was actually limited to a single email exchange and a follow-up call from one of Brown's lackeys checking one or two facts." Reader markrages writes "Ken Brown (of the Alexis de Tocqueville Institution) replies to his critics. Dr. Tanenbaum is an 'animated, but tense individual about the topic of rights and attribution'. The GNU/Linux naming issue also makes an appearance."

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  1. OMG. by jhill · · Score: 5, Funny

    A village is out there, crying, like baby jesus, because it's idiot ran away...please send him back.

  2. In other news... by raistphrk · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ken Brown was recently offered a position at the Jason Blair Institute for Fabrication and Fraud. Officially duties include making up interview transcripts and inventing names for alleged contributers.

  3. Re:USPTO respected? by Compholio · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's more like internationally laughed at for approving anything that shows up on its doorstep and not even checking its own database for conflicts.

  4. Re:USPTO respected? by ValentineMSmith · · Score: 5, Funny
    The United States is the home of the United States Patent and Trademark Office, an internationally respected agency

    Says the article... I'm sure a few round here would disagree.

    Well, I don't disagree that the United States is the home of the United States Patent and Trademark Office.

    I'm a little iffy on the "...internationally respected agency..." part, though

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  5. Nobody visit the AdTI website! by Chmarr · · Score: 4, Funny

    Please... noone visit the AdTI website... we wouldn't want Mr Brown to think that his web site is being attacked again, would we? :)

  6. But as soon as we DO find the sharpest knife by IshanCaspian · · Score: 4, Funny

    But as soon as we DO find the sharpest knife, I can guarantee you we'll make sure it gets to him. >:)

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  7. Re:Ken Brown, Anonymous Coward by ebbomega · · Score: 3, Funny

    Loser, Idiot, Nobody.
    Don't you mean "Lose, Idiot, Noone"?

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  8. Profit!!! by wtom · · Score: 3, Funny

    1. Observe thousands of geeks rage-filled reaction to SCO Linux IP claims. 2. Write poorly-researched, inflammatory book claiming Linus the Chosen One did not, in fact write the Linux kernel. 3. Thousands and thousands and thousands of pissed-off Linux zealots buy said book, in order to debunk it, burn it, sit it on the shelf and laugh at it, whatever... 4. Profit!!! I think the author probably saw an exploitable reaction in the Linux community and wrote this book in order to, um, exploit it... I wonder if the same strategy would work in other formats? I could write a book called "Eating Puppies", do the talk show circuit, and as long as I was not shot or something, the book would sell a million copies! I'm a genius! *starts typing up first draft*

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  9. Re:USPTO respected? by Delos · · Score: 5, Funny

    Kind of like /. ;-)

  10. Re:Does he think Linux was completed overnight? by dietz · · Score: 4, Funny

    Check out this, though:

    Yet Tanenbaum vehemently insists that Torvalds wrote Linux from scratch, which means from a blank computer screen to most people. No books, no resources, no notes...

    So, what he's apparently claiming is that Linux is stolen code because Linus used BOOKS when he wrote it.

    All true hackers were born with knowledge of C. Anyone who had to read a book about it is a thief.

  11. Re:USPTO respected? by mikeee · · Score: 5, Funny

    f1rst p4t3nt!

  12. Re:Here it is, exactly what Brown is up to! by peeping_Thomist · · Score: 3, Funny

    When it comes to a choice between trying to reason with a liar and defending our ability to feed our children, we'll take the children every time.

    Thank God somebody is thinking about the children!!!

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  13. Re:Comparing Apples and Oranges. by pfleming · · Score: 3, Funny

    My favorite guote of all:
    However, building a product that starts with the accomplishment of others and announcing it as completely your own work product, is not invention, nor is it innovation. Innovation can only work properly if innovators properly credit the work of others, especially if the innovator has decided to introduce the product into the marketplace for commercial gain.
    So are they saying that Bill Gates has a problem?

  14. Re:Comparing Apples and Oranges. by Tachys · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yet Tanenbaum vehemently insists that Torvalds wrote Linux from scratch, which means from a blank computer screen to most people. No books, no resources, no notes -- certainly not a line of source code to borrow from, or to be tempted to borrow from.

    He has a point there, Linus would to have at least copy from the first kernel which was created by God.

    What you think a bunch a computer scientists created a kernel without ever seeing a kernel before? That is of course impossible.

  15. Re:Comparing Apples and Oranges. by Tony-A · · Score: 3, Funny

    at some point, many, many years ago, say 40, a hand-written kernel was booted that was written in assembler.

    Correct.
    Not once.
    Many times.
    Most of 'em lost in the dust of history.

    You haven't lived until you've keypunched EBCDIC machine language into an IPL deck.

  16. Re:I hope people do read this shit. by abreauj · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't forget that all this code is stolen from corporations like IBM. Billions of dollars of IP were stolen from IBM and given over to Linux. IBM stole that IP from itself and then gave it to Linux.

    It's exactly like when my sister bought me a birthday gift at CompUSA, and then stole it from herself and handed it to me at my birthday party. She paid for it, so clearly it's her property, and since it's in my posession now, I'm holding stolen property. This makes me a thief and my sister an accessory to theft.

  17. Re:Embedded systems.... by zcat_NZ · · Score: 5, Funny

    " No, the best way to prepare is to write programs, and to study great programs that other people have written. In my case, I went to the garbage cans at the Computer Science Center and I fished out listings of their operating system."
    - Bill Gates, from "Programmers at Work" by Microsoft Press.

    You reading this, Mr Brown?

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  18. More shocking news by Sven+Tuerpe · · Score: 3, Funny

    In related news, AdTI announces more shocking research results. "After our discovery of the hybrid source nature of Linux we extended our research into other fields," an AdTI spokesperson said. He continued: "In the beginning we were just curious whether hybrid source concepts could be found in other fields as well. But soon we learned that the entire history of mankind would have taken a different turn, had hybrid source not been allowed to spread for so many years." While only excerpts of AdTI's upcoming book have been published yet, one can see the big picture already.

    The shocking findings of AdTI include:

    • Euclid of Alexandria did not invent geometry from scratch.
    • Jesus Christ did not invent religion from scratch. Nor did Moses, Muhammad, or Buddha.
    • Johannes Gutenberg did not invent books from scratch.
    • Sir Isaac Newton did not invent from scratch the theory of gravitation, or the laws of motion. Newton even did admit his disrespect for intellectual property, pointing out: "If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of Giants."
    • The steam engine, one of the triggers and enablers of the industrial revolution, was not invented by James Watt from scratch.
    • Albert Einstein received his Nobel Price for results he did not invent from scratch. Alfred Nobel, by the way, did not invent explosives from scratch.

    Where would mankind stand today if there had been appropriate protection of intellectual assets throughout history? The AdTI spokesperson refused to comment on this question, emphasizing that AdTI is doing sound research, not writing science fiction. However, their results give "clear indication that hybrid source is linked to war, murder, and terrorism. For instance, Adolf Hitler impossibly could have invented mass murder and world war from scratch, and Osama bin Laden is not the inventor of terrorism."

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  19. Re:Comparing Apples and Oranges. by squiggleslash · · Score: 4, Funny
    I'm quite sure there was investigative journalism (good and crappy) before Ken Brown's book, and Brown was, at some point in his life, exposed to it (Fox News, judging from what's come out about his book.)

    So I think it's absolutely absurd for Brown to argue he is the "author" of his own "book". Clearly he just copied from more original work, perhaps the Whitewater stories, or maybe he went further, back to the "journalist" who "exposed" the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

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