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Mozilla, Opera Form Group to Develop Web App Specs
An anonymous reader writes "MozillaZine is reporting that the Mozilla Foundation and Opera Software have formed a working group to develop specifications for Web applications. The new Web Hypertext Application Technology Working Group is working on specs for Web Forms 2.0, Web Apps 1.0 and Web Controls 1.0, among others. This is being done outside of the W3C, with the hope of getting a viable alternative to Longhorn's XAML available soon. Another reason for working outside the W3C could be the rift between Mozilla/Opera and other W3C members over what technologies Web applications solutions such be based on: Mozilla/Opera favour a backwards-compatible HTML-based standard, others are looking towards to XForms and SVG. It will be interesting to see if any other browser developers jump on board WHATWG." This story builds on our recent story concerning the group.
to include 'workarounds' for robbIE's whoreabully infactdead PostBlock censorship devise. isn't that something?
this stuff is unbreakable, & wwworks on/in several (more than 3) dimensions.
from a post meant to be titled:
unprecedented evile nearly disempowered, forever?
(score: mynuts won:-) previously PostBlocked(tm) material reposted)
by a disorganized rag-tag team of a few billion near nobodys, using what was available to them, which was almost nothing?
& just who are some of unprecedented evile's local representative(s)?:
The contract was awarded to Accenture, formerly Andersen Consulting, over two competing contractors, Lockheed Martin and Computer Sciences (a veritas (cess)pool of evile stock markp FraUDsters). Several industry executives and analysts said that the award surprised them and that Accenture had widely been considered the outside candidate.
The award also brought controversy. Accenture is incorporated in Bermuda, and some critics attacked the idea of awarding a contract so valuable and important to national security to a company with its headquarters outside the United States.
After Accenture was named, Representative Lloyd Doggett, a Texas Democrat, suggested the company took advantage of an uneven playing field to win the contract over Lockheed Martin and Computer Sciences.
"If companies truly want to contribute to our nation's security, they can pay their fair share of taxes. If they want a slice of the American pie, they had better help bake it," he said in a statement.
A spokesman for Accenture said that the company paid United States taxes.
Representative Richard E. Neal, a Massachusetts Democrat and a senior member of the House Ways and Means Committee, also questioned the award.
"This decision is outrageous," he said, in a statement. "The Bush administration has awarded the largest homeland security contract in history to a company that has given up its U.S. citizenship and moved to Bermuda. The inconsistency is breathtaking."
the stock markup FraUD/softwar gangster payper liesense hostage grab 'business plan' is looking a little hapless now?
fauxking billyonerrors. sheesh.
lookout bullow. tell 'em robbIE?
all is not lost.
consult with/trust in yOUR creators.... the returns are immeasurable/infinite.
see you there?
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You stupid, google will hurt itself if it follows the idiots in mozilla and opera. Mozilla guys were talking about isolating Microsoft, they are going to be isolated in the end. Only few slashdot idiots will cheer for them, the rest of the world will ignore them.
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CRCError> right
heartless> Right.
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Fuck, why the hell is it ok for mozilla and opera to work outside the W3C and leave other browsers behind? W3C is there for making sure that everybody has equal access to the same standards. If these two browsers support and implement the standards and then submit them to the W3C, then what do you think will happen? W3C will either accept or reject the proposals. If they accept they will risk being labeled as anti-Microsoft, which idiots like you have no problem with, but the world will be ok with Microsoft going alone in this field and make W3C irrelevant, since W3C effectively will turn into a slashdot, biased against the Microsoft. Many windows users will not tolerate this, Microsoft and many other companies will ditch W3C.
W3C is relevant today, because Microsoft supported its standards. It could easily develop its own standard and implement that one. There is lots of bullshit that IE is not standard-complaint, but that's pretty much bullshit. The W3C in fact created the worst standards in the history, and yet continue to receive credit for its bullshit. I think W3C should be irrelevant, and we should really have a kick-ass web application development standard, and only Microsoft can do that. Anti-Microsoft people will hold us back. For example mozilla group doesn't implement many javascript stuff just to be able to make Mozilla work on linux the same way it does on windows. So screw Mozilla, Opera. They will become irrelevant soon, mozilla wanted this though, since they were actively trying to isolate microsoft in a stupid manner. I am glad they are progressing on that one. I support Microsoft on this one 100%. Mozilla and opera have been mean too much recently, we don't have space for such slashdot type of idiots in the IT market.
I think you'll find that Safari represents KHTML now.
Apple are a Real Actual Company with money. Konq is part of a dinky open-source project.
KHTML is being used by more people in Safari now, and that's KHTML's future.
Wrong. You dont know what are you doing. Sorry. Just like all those "rich user experience" wankers in all these other posts, you cannot be bothered to use the existing standards in a way that provides functional application interface. We developed a series of in-house web based MRP applications (yes the whole shebang including order processing, GL, scheduling etc etc) by using PHP and HTML 3. NO CSS. So that an ancient web browser running on an ancient computer can access it. Subsequently we dont upgrade workstations (err.. terminals really) until they fall apart. The IT expenditures went down by 90% yearly. That is the "rich" experience the business owners are after.
Your kind of "rich user experience" crap and business do not mix. In business, old green screen WYSE terminals were quite acceptable for vast majority of the tasks until some snake oil salesmen like Bill Gates managed to create a race as to whose company's clerical staff would fuck around with screen savers and browse porn more. The winner gets to have hundrends of vocational school MSCE's running arround all over the place, consuming 40% of company revenues in salaries. Plus to have Microsoft and Dell on the company's list of main creditors.
There are very, very few areas that even demand graphics, never you mind SVG or XAML. A web based interface is a questionable luxury already. But there is a lot of money to be squeezed out of clueless people with the phrase "rich user experience". Think endless sales of OSs that support the crap. Each of course demanding 25GHz Pentium 7 with 25GB of RAM. I can hear the cash registers going "cha-ching" already.
Your boss should read your posts, and mark you down firmly in the "frivolous, excessive expense" field on his next P&L report.