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Why this? Yet Another vi-based Editor?

Poizon writes "The guys from freehackers.org have begun developing yet another vi-like editor, called Yzis (speak: "Why this?"). Their primary goal is to seperate the text processing engine and the GUI, in order to be able to integrate it into window managers like KDE as a native component. They have previously worked on KVim, a Vim port to KDE, so chances are good that they will succeed with Yzis. Sounds interesting, doesn't it?"

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  1. Re:Not really by Cthefuture · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was thinking the same thing. Maybe they are suffering from Not Invented Here syndrome.

    With that said, I wouldn't mind having a VI-like editor intregrated into Kdevelop. I like Kdevelop and the Visual-Studio-like features, but I often sorely miss my Vim functionality and I end up being forced to switch back and forth between a terminal and Kdevelop.

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  2. What's with the abnormal names already? by Ieshan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Geeks must have some sort of Advertising Impairment Syndrome, where in order to make a brand-name, they take the most unpronouncable and esoteric combinations of characters and stick them together.

    It's like all the crazies who go ballistic at people when people don't pronounce a hard "G" at the beginning of "Gnome". Why the fuck should they? It's pronounced differently in every other word beginning with "G-N".

    This might get modded flamebait, but every geek on slashdot knows it's true. Slashdot ITSELF is an example (tee hee! "http colon slash slash slash dot dot org!"). It IS cool, but it severely impedes the chances that anyone will ever recognize your product, or even download it, because if I had a conversation with a friend about this, I'd never be able to go google for it without specifically asking how to spell it.

    1. Re:What's with the abnormal names already? by JabberWokky · · Score: 2, Interesting
      So says the person with the metal sig line.

      Seriously, it makes perfect sense... Navigator, Explorer, Konqueror, Safari. They lead you out into that internet thingy. Mostly that part called the world wide web. Makes sense to me.

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  3. Re:The untold truth about text editors by kwench · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I agree that vi is a PITA when you are used to the new colorful world of windows, buttons and menus.

    But... this project is aiming at providing a plugin-like editor for all applications.

    Example: I am currently typing this text in a small textarea in Opera.
    Imagine I'd like to replace all occurences of "I" with "we". What can I do? Search and spell checking works fine in Opera (I don't know about other browsers), even on texts in textareas, which is already something. But a Find&Replace function is simply not there.
    Now imagine your browser with your favorite editor (like vi) as plugin. You do the great vi-magic like :s/I/we/g and you are done.

  4. Re:Not really by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I got the impression you could easily do this with vim already, which is why vim is now three separate projects kinda: vim-core, vim, and gvim. Couldn't they just wrap vim-core up and make it into a component right now?

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  5. Product, sell, market. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What about have fun, program, enjoy yourself?

    Frankly people that immediately go in market-speak mode are a real nuisance....

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  6. C++ by OmniVector · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ugh. of course the authors just HAD to do this in C++, making it a bitch to integrate into objective-c based programs. At the very least objective-c++ with os x will work, but the gnustep people are completely shut in the dark. why do people code in that unportable language? c LINKS WITH EVERYTHING. sigh.

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    1. Re:C++ by OmniVector · · Score: 2, Interesting

      i don't deny that C has it's fair share if issues. the problem is this project is a development library with the end goal of being integrated into text widgets. The only language that allows them to do this everywhere (GNUStep, gtk2, Qt) is C. C links with obj-c, obviously with other C libraries, and c++ libraries. The simple truth is by doing this project in c++ you make a port to other libraries extremely difficult and doesn't that defeat the purpose of why they are writing this in the first place as a portable, interchangable backend?

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  7. Re:Not really by frisket · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Sounds interesting, doesn't it?

    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

    Multimode editing in GUI editors would be fine, but that's not the issue.

    Dual-mode editors à la vi went out with the Ark. Imagine if you had to press i in Word before you could type text, and had to press Esc before you could do anything else.

  8. Re:Not really by Pedersen · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Dual-mode editors à la vi went out with the Ark. Imagine if you had to press i in Word before you could type text, and had to press Esc before you could do anything else.

    I don't imagine it, I do it. Oftentimes with annoying consequences. I much prefer the vi style of editing. I feel like I go a hundred times faster than any other mode.

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