Slashdot Mirror


Providing Access to Info in Developing Countries

matt writes "Widernet is a program run at the University of Iowa to provide developing countries access to information. Most of the universities they work with (mainly in Nigeria) have no internet access or have a very expensive, limited one. So Widernet ships hard drives with a data dump of about 100G to place on the local network. Students have access through the eGranery. Some the of the problems they are dealing with are how to provide updates to the already distributed libraries, how to provide the eGranery such that it can be setup with little or no IT knowledge, and how to stretch a limited budget and donations. I sadly had to turn down an internship with them, but would still like to contribute. Surely we can help with time, resources, and/or knowledge." And you thought sneakernet was dead.

16 of 102 comments (clear)

  1. Sneakernet dead? Definitely not. by Moderation+abuser · · Score: 4, Informative
    --
    Government of the people, by corporate executives, for corporate profits.
  2. Nigeria has a lot of money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This article is lying. I know several people in Nigeria that have Internet access, they send me messages every day. They also seem to have a lot of money to send me, so Nigeria is not really developing country.

    1. Re:Nigeria has a lot of money by Teun · · Score: 4, Interesting
      You are right. And yes it is funny.

      But also very sad, it seems Nigeria has the IP rights (SCO-style) on corruption (and is clearly not able to enforce them).
      It is such a rich country in many aspects, diverse cultures, fertile nature and lots of oil and gas.

      Yet as long as the western world does not act against these utterly corrupt leaders Nigeria will remain in its present state were even universities have difficulty to, for example, accessing the internet.

      It is nice to see projects like this were the needed information still reaches the students.
      But knowing Nigeria I wonder for how long these hard disks will remain at the university.

      --
      "The likes of Facebook and WhatsApp are free to those whose privacy is of zero value."
    2. Re:Nigeria has a lot of money by pangian · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why does it have to be the western world that stands up to corrupt Nigerian leaders? Not that western leaders shouldn't stand up to them, but aren't the best people for this the Nigerian people? Maybe the best way to change the situation is to get Nigerian citiznes information about which of their leaders are screwing them over and what they can do about it.

    3. Re:Nigeria has a lot of money by Hatta · · Score: 3, Funny

      We're too busy with our own corrupt leaders.

      --
      Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
  3. This is a good thing for developing areas. by big+tex · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now that they have the granary, they won't loose all of their food every time the city goes up a level.

    Either that, or I've been playing too much civ.

    --
    I think I need a new sig here.
  4. TeraScale SneakerNet by Ann+Elk · · Score: 4, Informative

    Jim Gray (Microsoft researcher, grand Poo Bah of transactions, etc) cowrote an interesting paper 2 years ago entitled TeraScale SneakerNet: Using Inexpensive Disks for Backup, Archiving, and Data Exchange. (Word .DOC file) which analyzes the economics of transferring huge amounts of data by shipping hardware.

    (Insert obligatory "never understimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of 9-track tapes" reference here.)

  5. Only Nigeria ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful


    or thats what it seems, what about other developing countries that dont have access at all, surely they would be better served with project like this ?, dont get me wrong im all for charity (if you can call 120$ for a 120gig hard drive and $112 p&p charity) but Nigeria already has quite good network access, (judging by the amount of internet cafes and budding enterprise) perhaps we should let them develop with what they already have and concentrate on bringing computing and networks to those who are even less fortunate

    120$ for a 120gig hard drive seems rather steep (and 75$ for a demo USB box) as this is more than a complete computer in the local classifieds, (not to mention a shitload of cash in developing countries) is this a charity or a commercial profit making venture ?
    i always am suspicious when i see the face of a charity/good cause but then they charge for the service at above-cost especially when other companies are supplying their services for free)

    cough*scam*cough ?

  6. Give them info, and teach them to USE it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Give them info, and teach them to USE it. Having one without the other will just lead to a duplication of the situation we have here. Wired 100% of the time, unprecedented access to so much information... but still lead down a path of war by a bible bashing president and allowing our own government to turn over and beg for the RIAA, MPAA, ignoring our own rights at home AND those of prisoners of war overseas.

    Information is one thing. Using it is something else entirely.

    1. Re:Give them info, and teach them to USE it by flimnap · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I know someone who went to Nigeria (and other nearby countries) as part of setup for an Africa-wide online learning university (computer science components). It was a miserable failure because none of the Nigerian universities were able to meet the requirements for computing, most notably steady electricity supply.

      Rather then shipping developing countries information, it is much more important to get them set up with infrastructure so that they will eventually have the access required to retrieve the information themselves.

      Information is one thing. Using it is something else entirely.

      Part of using information effectively is learning how to get it properly, and extract effective information from it. That's what we do every time we use Google: filter the wheat from the chaff, if you will.

    2. Re:Give them info, and teach them to USE it by pangian · · Score: 3, Insightful

      How exactly do you get a national power grid to a country of 130 million people with extremely overcrowded cities and a rainy season that wipes out most of the roads and above ground power lines every year?

      I can tell you one thing, the University of Iowa and the U.S. government and the World Bank aren't going to give it to them. Perhaps the best way to move toward and infrastructure in Nigeria is to educate Nigerians the best you can so that you can create demand for these services and find creative solutions.

      Yes, there are problems with electricity provision. Power goes out several times a day. But Nigerians are very creative people (as all the forms of 419 attest), and they find ways around it. Most businesses and universities run off generators much of the day. A UPS is part of any computer purchase.

      Without knowing anything about your friend's project, I'd say that he/she wasn't trying hard enough. There are Internet cafes all over the major cities. There are some extremely talented computer technicians in the major universities. Setting up and maintaining a computer network is more *interesting* than in the developed world, but certainly not impossible.

  7. Broadcasting data. by dinodrac · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I used to work for an ISP offering one way satalite internet. Needless to say, it was rather difficult to support, usually not because of problems with the reciever, but because of the dialup issues and TCP/IP stack problems courtesy of whatever spyware the users have downloaded.

    As most of the issues that make one way satalite data delivery problematic for consumers don't exist for this type of application, it would seem like satalite technology is a good answer to the data delivery problem.

    Time could be leased on commercial communications satalites, or maybe some sort of agreement to use idle capacity at reduced rates could be reached.

    The reciever hardware for one way satalite systems is relatively inexpensive, in the $200-$500 range, so it would seem financially feasable as well...

  8. Optical drives!!! by JaF893 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Surely the best solution is to install a DVD drive and then simply post them a load of DVD-Rs. Perhaps it might even be cheaper to use a CD drive and a load of CD-Rs. As long as sufficient instructions are provided the installation of an optical drive should be fairly straight forward.

  9. "developing countries" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I hate that phrase. We are ALL in "developing countries", I hope - or we are screwed. The phrase sounds like the West has "finished developing" - which may be not be inaccurate as it drowns itself in a sea of intellectual "property" litigation, but I know I would like to see a guarantee of MY free access to information, as my fellow countrymen are doing their best to lock down that access and turn the country into a fascist police state that would have given Stalin wet dreams of joy.

  10. Re:Don't these by Wudbaer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Everytime something comes up about technology in developing countries someone or other posts something like this.

    Guess what ? The Western world and lots of Asian countries didn't get those necessities by some nice person donating them a 100 gallon container of fresh water, some cheap pills and some old school books. They got there by educating their people to a point where they become able to take their fate into their own hands. To do this, you need more than just basic schooling, you need something a project like this might provide.

  11. Nigeria is a rich nation by zogger · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Look at this info on nigeria, it's an opec member and has tremendous oil and natural gas reserves

    According to this DOE fact sheet article, until recently they were flaring off almost all the natural gas, yet local villages had little electricity. I think I see the problem here. Looks like government payola, ripping off the people, various ill will, begats violence, more bad vibes, back and forth.

    Just perhaps if they hadn't been ripped off for a long time maybe the people there wouldn't be so poor. Flaring off the gas for years instead of putting in generators to use the gas seems a scosh lame to me. I imagine this fact was not lost on the locals either. Who would be blamed then, the oil producers, the government doofus who gave them the contract? I have no idea, but right there you can see just one instance on how they got shafted.

    I also just read a few pretty current news articles when I was looking for that reference link. Your typical back and forth warfare,massacres, people tapping into pipelines to get fuel, oil spills and fires and explosions then, etc. Chaos and anarchy mixed with huge international money and corruption and fascism. I have no idea how to help those people there, tribalism and warfare and serious government/oil industry corruption look like the major problems. I think perhaps if they just scrap the oil contracts and renotiate and require some actual infrastructure be put in instead of just arranging more cash to whatever local warlord du juor happens to be there with his hands out might work better. The actual hardware for electricity and normal communications, make the oil companies put it in. I would bet in one day some millionaire trader sitting in an office far away from nigeria, making a bundle off the nigerian oil, swapping oil futures commodites around could pay for this localised internet deal and then some, a lot of "then some". It's this whole system that causes the problems, so it's the whole system that needs to change. There's no excuse for a nation that wealthy to have such poor people and lack of the basics.