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RIAA Protests Digital Radio

prostoalex writes "Afraid that digital radio listeners might soon be able to cherry-pick certain songs and share them with others on the Internet, RIAA urged FCC to consider broadcast regulations that limit such copying. The National Association of Broadcasters is not too happy with RIAA's request, as more than three hundred broadcasters either have digital CD-quality radio, or are in the process of setting them up. Meanwhile, as MSNBC notes, products like The Bug from Pure Digital are already capable of recording digital radio."

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  1. People do this already! by reub2000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ever hear of taping a song off the radio. A lot of people do it.

    Git off ma fair use before aye shoot ya.

  2. Re:What would be cool... by Dun+Malg · · Score: 5, Insightful
    is if the RIAA created a new digital radio that had a CDR in it, and the user could select "download & rip" for 1$ like in iTunes and the radio would compress the song into FLAC, ogg, or mp3, and burn it to the next track.

    No, you see, that would be innovation. The RIAA isn't a company that comes out with products, it's an association of old-school record companies trying to protect their old-school business model.

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  3. Re:When will it ever end?? by rpozz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unfortunately, the main RIAA customer base is dumb kids who buy manufactured crap like Westlife etc. They will continue to buy that shit and continue to fund these retards.

  4. Re:When will it ever end?? by sarah_kerrigan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hello,

    They don't want it to end, that is the plain answer. The RIAA lives of the customers who buy "legal" music (they never remember the Creative Commons license, isn't that curious?). They are not interested in the earnings of the artists, of course; they only stand for their own earnings. Take into account that a musician earns more money playing in concerts, than selling discs.

    To sum up: money rules.

    Muaaaaaaaaks
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  5. CD Quality? by Detritus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    CD quality? I'd be happy if my radio produced FM quality. The typical American broadcaster takes a nice, clean audio signal and then proceeds to mutilate it beyond recognition with a "modulation optimizer" before feeding it to the transmitter. These devices ensure that the transmitter is run at 100% modulation, or greater, all the time, in every audio band. The result is badly distorted audio without the slightest trace of dynamic range. If they will not broadcast a clean FM signal, why should we expect them to broadcast a clean digital signal?

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    1. Re:CD Quality? by Theaetetus · · Score: 4, Insightful
      The typical American broadcaster takes a nice, clean audio signal and then proceeds to mutilate it beyond recognition with a "modulation optimizer" before feeding it to the transmitter. These devices ensure that the transmitter is run at 100% modulation, or greater, all the time, in every audio band. The result is badly distorted audio without the slightest trace of dynamic range.

      Most people call them "Compressors". Anyways, yes, they compress the dynamic range of the audio. However, most pop albums today do that anyways, prior to going through our processing. Garbage in, garbage out.

      If they will not broadcast a clean FM signal, why should we expect them to broadcast a clean digital signal?

      Because modulation doesn't matter so much for a digital signal. The technical requirements are drastically different.

      With an FM (or AM) analog signal, more modulation=more power=less noise=farther range=more listeners. Also, more modulation=louder, which many market studies have shown makes people more likely to listen to a station.
      With a digital signal, the modulation is determined by a matrix as the digital bits are divided across multiple carriers and set by phase and amplitude. To get more modulation, you'd need more 1s (not really, since the bits are not linear that way, but anyways) - and that's not audio, that's DC.

      So, there is no longer the technical requirement pushing for compressed audio sources. Both the NAB and the AES are currently discussing processing for digital audio, and in all likelihood, much will change in the way it's done.

      -T

  6. What else are we as a nation willing to discard? by dpilot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Remember Digital Audio Tape? Wanna go buy one?
    Look at what the DMCA is doing to reverse engineering.
    Look at what's being discussed to close the 'analog hole'.

    Our nation is sacrificing it's technological competitiveness in the name of the entertainment industries. We have already sacrificed a LOT, though it's still reversible.

    One of my Senators is Patrick Leahy, and maybe it's time for me to become a single-issue voter. His response to my last letter on this was not satisfactory, I need to try again - well before November.

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  7. Remarkably forthright, coming from them. by Aquillion · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The comment about fears of "cherry-picking" songs probably tells more about the industry's real fears than they intended. Their biggest fear, I think, isn't simply about piracy (which can always be fought as a crime) but that listeners will become accustomed to listen to what they want, when they want. The existing structure of the music industry depends on using the radio and favorable product placement to boost certain artists; that's why those artists are willing to sign such unfavorable contracts. If the people in charge of the music industry lose control of popular taste, they're finished no matter what else happens.

  8. Aren't they jumping to conclusions? by FullCircle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've had XM for over a year and listen daily in the car. The reason I got XM was because I absolutely hate the junk that is heard in Clearchanel dominated market I live in.

    Not once have I thought of recording anything from XM. Since most XM radios have line outputs for amplifiers, it would be easy to plug in a laptop and record to wav or even mp3 with no problem. This article put the idea in my head, courtesy of the RIAA. Good job guys.

    I've bought quite a few CD's from "new" artists that I actually had a chance to hear on XM. XM definately helps the labels sell more CD's since Clearchanel doesn't play what the public wants to hear anymore.

    The few decent artists that are played to death on broadcast radio don't seem worth the $15 to buy. Hell, I could hear the same song every time I turn on the radio anyway. But the ones that I hear on XM are new and aren't jammed down my throat. I WANT to buy the CD's. Nobody feels good ripping off the underdog artists, but we all write off the radio artists as the enemy, thus they are exploitable.

    The RIAA seems to want control over which artists are popular more than they want money from listeners. In any other business, the stockholders would have voted out anyone who repeatedly made such bad decisions. It just makes no sense.

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  9. Why are you all so concerned? by CdBee · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We're geeks, right? We're the sorcerers of the modern-day world. Without us, nothing happens and no-one works.

    The RIAA can try this all they like, but if they succeed in getting the restrictions they want, we'll break them, we'll show others how to break them and we'll pirate the content out over the web just to make sure they learn that if they fuck with us they'll get hurt.

    There's a lesson pending for the RIAA, and its this. Our rights as consumers are not up for renegotiation, and we don't want our rights to be protected (enforced) by expensive and unreliable DRM. RIAA, you can accept this, or you can pay up for the technology only to see us painlessely circumvent it. We will not be governed by you. That's not the way it works

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