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Electric Armor Tested For Light Armored Vehicles

joncrie writes "The Telegraph is reporting that British MoD scientists are now testing a new electric armor to protect light armored vehicles against RPGs. The new electric armour is made up of a highly-charged capacitor that is connected to two separate metal plates on the tank's exterior. When an RPG warhead fires its jet of molten copper, it penetrates both the outer plate and the insulation of the inner plate. This makes a connection and thousands of amps of electricity vaporises most of the molten copper. The rest of the copper is dispersed harmlessly against the vehicle's hull. The initial development was mentioned previously."

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  1. Using Iraq as an example.. by Tuvai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The heavily armoured divisions of the US and British armies had little to fear of the iraqi armed forces RPGs, the most "devastating" weapon in their limited arsenal.
    However once the initial resistance was swiftly dealt with, the all new threat came from roadside bombs, suicide bombers, and mines. This will make some difference, but most terrorists will strike at the troops outside of their vehicles anyway.

    1. Re:Using Iraq as an example.. by 3263827 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      All vehicles have a "flaw" when dealing with close combat situations. The M1A2 is fortunately for US forces, one of the most protected tanks, especially against HEAT charges like the one employed by the RPG. Tank protection is a matter of choosing your battles. You can't provide 360 degree protection. That's why tanks operate with infantry in urban ops. Take away the infantry, and you'll have situations like Grozny where the Chechen rebels massacred entire divisions due to poor tactics on the part of the Russians.

    2. Re:Using Iraq as an example.. by demachina · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I know you've had the word terrorist drilled in to your head the Bush administration and the media using it about a 1000 times a day but when someone is attacking occupying soldiers in a war zone they are not "terrorists", they are guerillas or insurgents. Guerilla is probably the word you are looking for:

      WordNet (r) 2.0 [wn]
      guerilla
      adj : used of independent armed resistance forces; "guerrilla warfare"; "partisan forces" [syn: guerrilla(a), guerilla(a), underground, irregular]
      n : a member of an irregular armed force that fights a stronger force by sabotage and harassment [syn: guerrilla, irregular, insurgent]

      In the early 20th century the fear word the government used to "terrorize" the populace was anarchist. In the 1950's it was communist. Today it is terrorist. In all three cases the words were whipped to death, misused and misapplied. They are the words the U.S. government uses to "terrorize" their population and to tag everyone that isn't on their side.

      I would be inclined to say that the Bush administration are as much terrorists as the people they tag with this word, because they are governing by constantly stoking the fears of the American people, are using that fear to stay in power, and are governing by intimidation:

      Terrorist \Ter"ror*ist\, n. [F. terroriste.]
      One who governs by terrorism or intimidation; specifically, an agent or partisan of the revolutionary tribunal during the Reign of Terror in France. --Burke.

      adj : characteristic of someone who employs terrorism (especially as a political weapon)

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      @de_machina
    3. Re:Using Iraq as an example.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      the real problem with terrorist vs insurgent/guerilla/freedom fighter is that you're not allowed to apply it to the Israel/Palestine situation without being labelled an extremist, a zionist or an anti-semite (depending on the stance you take)

      i fucking hate the media.

  2. Re:Two Shots? by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Alternatively, what if 2-3 shots are fired simultaneously at different locations in an attempt to overload the electrical system?"

    Then it takes 9 shots to take out 3 tanks, instead of one per tank. Meanwhile, the tesla-tank can return fire.

    Don'tcha think you're trying a bit hard to find the gotcha in it?

    --
    "Derp de derp."
  3. Re:Two Shots? by Have+Blue · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Anyway, nobody ever promised this would make tanks absolutely invulnerable to RPGs. If it significantly reduces damage (and casualties) and gives the tank a better chance to return fire, it's a success.

  4. That's what I was wondering. by khasim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If they make the outer armour thick enough to stop small arms fire, then they're adding significant weight to the vehicle. Particularly the HMMWVs and such. If you add 2,000lbs of armour, you're facing other, structural, problems with the vehicles.

    If you use 1/4 of your carrying capacity for armour, then that means that your convoys are going need 25% more vehicles.

    Which means 25% more targets and (at least) 25% more breakdowns.

    Which is exactly what you do not want in the "long-lasting, low-grade, hostile civilian population," scenario you mentioned. :(

  5. Re:Interesting... by Wes+Janson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The big problem with that idea is threefold. First, when the breach occurs it's going to require a non-trivial amount of time for the system to begin applying current, heating the pellets, and congealing together.

    This leads to our second problem: a frigging bomb just went off next to (or within) the plating. The hull, and pellets contained therein, are no longer on their original plane. The pellets that were in the positions now left empty (the hole), are going to be either vaporized or massively displaced. More specifically, many weapons detonate after penetration. The result being an outward blast that creates a bulge in the hull, and distorts the original shape of the hull into a roughly conical form.

    Which leads to the third problem: the metal will need to be in place before it cools and solidifies. In our hypothetical scenario, we have a large gap in the hull, a temporarily displaced sea, and ragged edges of now-melting liquid metal. If the pellets could move into place, melt together, then solidify within a tenth of a second or less, the idea might work. And longer than that, and water pressure will act like a machine gun and a grindstone at the same time, moving with enough force to rip away anything that isn't extremely solid and secure.

    Ultimately, while an interesting idea it just won't work. If anything it might well weaken the ship, both on the long term and in case of attack. Sorry.