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LWV Reverses Electronic Voting Machine Stance

sirshannon writes "Apparently caving to pressure from Slashdot readers (or maybe it was all their peeved members), The League of Women Voters rescinded its support of paperless voting machines on Monday."

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  1. How was that pressure applied? by Irvu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If /. Readers had an impact how was it done? Was there a petition link on the previous story that I missed? Was there a letter writing campaign that I missed? Or the the LWV leadership (and the hundreds of their members who oppose paperless ballots) simply derive all their impetus from the firestorm going on in the comments? Did thjey for example read them and think, "wow we have to move now or these people may moderate each other more heavily!"

    I am not minimizing the role of discussion here nor am I saying that posting a comment on /. is a waste of time.

    What I am saying is that comments on /. stay on /. If you want to pressure other groups don't expect that they will read your comments and change their minds. What you do is take action at the EFF, join the ACLU, get organization info from Blackboxvoting.org, or send letters to the appropriate people (Congress, Whitehouse) . You can even create your own online petition at PeitionOnline.com. The key is to branch out to others and raise their conciousness level not preach to the choir.

  2. Re:I remember the good old days. by frankie · · Score: 3, Interesting
    If it's any consolation, they haven't updated their web site:
    It has been suggested that DRE machines are inherently subject to fraud unless there is an individual paper record of each vote. This seems extreme. DREs are extremely sophisticated machines and most DREs store information in multiple formats and in multiple places within its program. To tamper with a DRE someone would need to know each and every format and storage capacity and be able to manipulate it undetected. Additionally, it must be remembered that DREs are not an election system unto themselves; they are simply an instrument within a complex election system. The key is to design an overall system that builds in multiple checks making it improbable that the system will be tampered with.
    Those "sophisticated" Diebold machines store all of the vote AND audit data in unencrypted MS Access databases. Various tiger teams have found it trivial to make undetectable changes (assuming you can break in to the Windows XP environment, har dee har harr)
    The LWVUS does support an individual audit capacity for the purposes of recounts and authentication of elections for all voting systems, including, but not limited to, DREs. The LWVUS does not believe that an individual paper confirmation for each ballot is required to achieve those goals; in fact this is unnecessary and can be counterproductive. An individual paper confirmation for each ballot would undermine disability access requirements, raise costs, and slow down the purchase or lease of machines that might be needed to replace machines that don't work. Simply because a voter verifies their vote on a piece of paper does not guarantee the same results have been be recorded within the machine and vice versa. And why would we assume that, if the total from a paper count and the total from a machine count are different, the paper count is accurate?
    Hopefully they delete the entirety of this paragraph except maybe the first sentence.