Mozilla Project Officially Releases Firefox 0.9
_xeno_ writes "The last release candidate was apparently good enough, because Mozilla Firefox 0.9 has now been officially released. New features since 0.8 are, of course, basically the same as in the Release Candidate, including the new Pinstripe theme for Windows and the GTK+ installer for Linux users. The biggest change since the Release Candidate is that this release should ask you to migrate your profile instead of just trashing it. So head over to the Firefox homepage and get downloading, or check out the Release Notes to find out exactly what's new."
mE123 adds "You can get it from plain old HTTP or from fancy new BitTorrent", and points out that (compared to 0.8), "this release includes tons of bug/stability fixes, a %3 speed up, a new theme and plugin management system, a new standard windows theme, and a smaller windows installer."
They really need a proper pagerank feature in the moz googlebar. There was a recent hack to googlebar that showed pagerank for a page by querying a central server which returned a gif image. That doesn't work so well and is really slow.
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The smartest thing I have heard all day.
Firefox is the best imho for multi platform browsers. Very small-footprint, fast, versatile
I use Firefox exclusively here, and it's great. I use it on Solaris/U2, Slackware/P3, OpenBSD/P2, Slackware/K6. It seems to fly on X Terminals/Thin-clients. Multimedia is handle well too, imho.
I look forward to trying 0.9. I'd have to say that for an 0.X release of software, it works like a 2.X release =)
Stop the spread of IE.
I cleared all my bookmarks upgrading a previous version, after reading rave reviews about reimporting old bookmarks (appearently on Windows).
Before I update from 0.9RC to 0.9, is there a way to save bookmarks? Perhaps as an HTML file?
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I was going to complain the same thing, until I saw the "also show potentially incompatible icons" link.
:)
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You know, I could almost grow to like tabs if you didn't have to have such precision with the mouse to choose one (I know you can use the keyboard to flip between them). The huge thing I like about my taskbar is that I can throw the mouse to the bottom of the screen and it will be over a button. Has anyone, by any chance, made a firefox extension that "grabs" the mouse when it hits the tab bar to make it easier to target them?
I don't think I'll stop using Konqueror any time soon (I don't have any reason to), but I figure I may as well play around with new stuff.
The thing I miss the most from the Mozilla is the ability to type something to search directly in the address bar press the down arrow (selecting: search google for...) then [enter]... No need to add another space wasting thingy just for searches.
... Then again, just check MSIE, they are at 6.x and they still can't get everything right, hehehe
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Sorry but I really can't get over it, I loved that feature. I was using it all the time...
Also, I still have some rendering problems with slashdot, sometimes the page renders on two side-to-side pages, very weird, it's happening right now, when I click preview, I have to scroll right to see the preview and the post comment boxes, all the rest is at the left, very weird...
Well, we're still under 1.0
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I have been using Pheonix -> Firebird -> Firefox for a while now which much adore, but I am skepitcal of this release. I do not like the new theme so much but changing to small icons is better.
I not so sure about this new "Software Update" section under Tools -> Options -> Advance.
"Periodically check for updates"? No thanks.
"Allow websites to install software"? Is this now another IE? No thanks. Well, maybe it's much more secure.
"Select new tabs opened from links" What does that mean? Oh, I think it was the old "Open new tabs in the background" option which was more intuitive.
Well that's just what I see on the front end so far. As long as they fixed some of the bugs, like "the page / can not be found" when hittting the back button. I also hope mouse over text for the tabs no longer gets in my way of pressing a tab. I have seen many websites freeze the browser which is very annoying, so hopefully those bugs are fixed to.
It has to do with maintainability. If you compile every program yourself, you have to be completely responsible for tracking the versions and dependencies of every application. Say you have 200 packages on your computer (fewer than a standard desktop system). Six months from now, do you really want to be tracking down where you got all those from, whether or not they've changed, and then install them all by hand?
./configure; make; make install if you want. Issuing those three commands is not why people like Gentoo. Some like building their system from the ground up (this teaches you a bit about the different layers of your system). Others like the package management system, for source or binary packages. Others like having programs optimized for their specific processor.
Sure, you're free to do
IE is hardly a benchmark to compare anything to. How does FireFox compare with Opera?
Engineering is the art of compromise.
I hate to sound, er, metrosexual, but that Noia theme is truly fabulous. The gestures extensions are pretty stellar too.
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Is it just me or the download manager feels clunky? On top of that it is a resource hog.
.7 type downloads (a separate window for each download) until the DM is less resource intensive and more visually appealing.
I wish there was an option for reverting to
Maybe the problem is that I'm used to GetRight as a download manager (a comercial one, one of the best in my opinion) and I don't stand anything worse. Check it out here: www.getright.com
I love Firefox on Windows, but it's just really too bad they can't match Mac OS X's look on Mac OS X. In particular, the boxy little Windows-like buttons and ugly popup menus have to go.
While the Firebird name did not last for many versions, the name was chosen in April 2003 and was first used on a formal release of the standalone browser with the release of Firebird 0.6 (NOT 0.7) in May 2003. The Firebird name, used for over 9 months, was actually the LONGEST lived name for, outliving both Phoenix (6 months; September 2002-April 2003) and Firefox (4 months and counting; February 2004-date). It also helps to remember that the earliest Phoenix-named versions were released in very close succession.
Why do they bother wasting screen real estate?
Because the developers have their computer screens set at high resolutions. This results in everything looking great at 1280x1024 or 1600x1200, but looking really bad and even being non-functional at 800x600 or 640x480. This shows up repeatedly in the sizing of controls and windows and in generally bad graphics. There is a problem of the "okay" button being invisible below the screen and the top bar to move the window being invisible above the screen in Thunderbird for the message rules screen, among other sizing issues. And Mozilla's screen eating toolbars. At least Firefox has adjustable toolbars. But the problem of developers being clueless as to how their product looks to the average home and business user because of the difference in screen resolution used is a constant problem with a lot of Linux based software that I have seen. And I think it has a detrimental effect on Linux's acceptance by the larger population of computer users.
i agree with you on that one. i REALLY loved that feature. it was SO damn simple open browser/tab type search term press the "down" key until you get "search on $search_engine" and hit enter.
i REALLY hope someone decides to bring it back. it made life so much easier for me, and along with tabbed browsing and popup blocking was one of the things that made the switch away from IE SO much easier
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or one out of three ain't bad
The one flaw I've noticed so far, though, is that the extensions options frame is a little buggy.
Yes, i's "a little buggy". Most of my extensions no longer work. At all.
The upgrade moved my bookmarks, cookies, etc, but failed to deal with my extensions. So I went and reinstalled all of them.
Googlebar, bugmenot & mousegestures don't work. This seems not quite ready for primetime.
I'm on Win2k
Now I have to stretch or use two hands. Time to start looking for the change I need to make...
But a closed source one...
Look out!
I still prefer Opera 7.x to Firebird. Opera seems faster, has more keyboard shortcuts which I use, seems to be more compliant (with the pages I visit), has better Java integration (for coorporate Intranet sites), seems to remember customized layouts better, looks better, etc. In my book, Opera 7.x is still #1 browser.
But for BeOS/Zeta (my #2 platform), I dont get Opera, so Firebird is my only option there. I can live with it, but I miss Opera.
Revolution = Evolution
I just came across the Web Developer plugin - I think this just may be the happiest day of my life. From little things like resizing the window quickly to popular resolutions, to the live CSS editing, it's hard to overstate how useful this plugin is for web development.
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Man does it ever look fugly!!!
:( Gah I take it back -- Firefox heathens, burn in hell for your sins!! I want the old default theme back!
I'm not advocating the death penalty for the people who both worked on the theme and those in charge of Firefox who decided to switch to it, but obviously they have no artistic ability or taste.
If anything, it is uglier than the default theme that comes with Windows XP. The triangular buttons for Back and Forward remind me of the old Motif widgets. It looks like they were drawn using MS Paint. Heheh can anything good be said about it?
I installed the old Qute theme but now all the icons on the toolbar are corrupted.
You know what would be really good? Every web browser using the same bookmark directory. Then you could switch from one to the other and they would all stay in sync. Phwoar. :-)"
Easy to do if you know how. I use this.
When the Mozilla team were trying to change the name from Phoenix (because of the BIOS manufacturer of the same name), they looked into Firebird and were told early on there was already a FOSS project with that name.
Rather than say "Oh, ok, let's think of something else", they took legal advice and having determined that what they were doing was technically not illegal they settled on Firebird anyway. Because, as we all know, if it's not illegal, it's morally fine. ;-) [This type of thinking is the major problem I have with libertarianism, the fact is people will be arseholes, people will not suddenly magically start being nice to one another because there are no longer any laws compelling them to do so.]
There was an uproar. The pseudo-libertarians argued that as there was no law against it, it was perfectly fine and the other project should just "get over it". Anyone trying to find the database project would just have to add a few keywords to their Google search ("database" wouldn't have been enough as that's almost as generic a term as "program".) Another half of the FOSS community said this was particularly scummy and wanted little to do with Firebird.
Eventually the Mozilla team listened to reason and changed the name again.
I'm glad they did. I don't understand the logic of deliberately switching to a name you know is used, especially when you know it'll just cause harm to another group that really doesn't deserve that.
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