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Hotel Tycoon Pushes Inflatable Space Stations

heptapod writes "Reclusive millionaire and motel tycoon Robert Bigelow has announced launching inflatable space stations through his personal aerospace firm. He's working off of NASA's TransHab designs and hopes to get launch one as early as November 2005! I'm sure after someone wins the X Prize they'll need someplace to stay the night. I wonder if each inflatable station module won't come with complimentary bibles."

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  1. Gideon's in Spaaaaaceeee... by NecroPuppy · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder if each inflatable station module won't come with complimentary bibles.

    But will the bibles be inflatable as well?

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    1. Re:Gideon's in Spaaaaaceeee... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Zealotry != (strong) religious faith. You may find it hard to understand, but others don't always want what you've got. That's why I keep my strong religious convictions to myself, and don't cram them down others throats, unlike many others.

    2. Re:Gideon's in Spaaaaaceeee... by mdwh2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well if you are going to be a truly logical person you cannot discredit the theory that God exists because there is not logical proof that God doesn't exist as well. They are plenty of mathematical problems that cannot be proven but they seem to be true, because no one has found a way to disprove it. By saying I don't believe in God because there is no 100% proof that God exists. Is like saying I believe there has to be God 100% because of these small reasons.

      Yes, but all that applies to unicorns too - but I don't see people arguing for existance of unicorns. In fact, it applies to an infinite number of things, anything that we could conceive, but can't disprove.

      The poster didn't say he believed God didn't exist, but rather implied that he simply didn't believe in God.

      Not believing on the basis of a lack of evidence is perfectly reasonable, unless you're willing to believe in absolutely anything and everything that hasn't been disproved.

      But because I believe that I am in a real universe so must I assume it is real because I cannot disprove that I am not.

      But you can't disprove that you're a brain in a jar, so why don't you believe that too?

    3. Re:Gideon's in Spaaaaaceeee... by NonSequor · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Don't tell people about your religion. Give them a reason to ask about your religion.

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    4. Re:Gideon's in Spaaaaaceeee... by amber_of_luxor · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What are you talking about? Most mathematical and scientific breakthoughs throughout history happened due to the work of Christians.

      Which explains why Chinese Science was more advanced than Western Science was till roughly 1800.

      And also explains why Islamic Scholars preserved the Greek and Roman classics.

      And also explains why Algebra has its foundations in the work done by Islamic scholars.[OK, a specific Islamic scholar, if you want to quibble.]

      Traditionally, it has been organized Christianity that has opposed scientific progress in the west.

      Even Blaise Pascal spent a part of his life as a priest.

      There is no correlation between being a priest, and being a Christian. From roughly 500 CE to roughly 1800 CE, the Holy Roman Catholic Church was the dominant institution in the west. It was the institution that provided education. The net result is that one became a priest, in order to study, or to gain political power. Spiritual conviction had nothing to do with the decision.

      And in passing, I'll note that spiritual conviction still is a minor consideration for those who do become priests.

      The fact is that irregardless of scientific progress, Non-believers will always hold a backlash towards Christianity

      Perhaps if Christians would actually practice the teachings of their holy book, there might be less backlash against them. But when they pick and choose what they want to practice, and believe, then why should they get any respect?

      The reason we Christians condemn this [stem cell research] is because it is murder in our eyes.

      a: That is objecting to something, purely because of the source of the thing.

      b: Why don't Christians practice the only diet that the First Testament states does not violate the Aseret ha-Debrot?

      It [cell stem research] has the moral equivalent as, say, a person in need of a heart transplant going up to you and telling you, "I need your heart to live, so I'll be taking yours."

      a: By that reasoning,organ transplants should be illegal to perform.

      b: The First Testament also talks about taking a needed body part from an individual, for the use of another individual --- a body part that the second person needed, in order to live.

      OTOH, consistency has never been a strong point with christians, of any sect, religion, creed, dogma, or theology.

      Amber

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  2. Inflatable Church by maestro371 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who needs bibles when you could put one of these up there?

  3. Hrmm by acehole · · Score: 4, Funny

    It'd be worrying if you saw a sign before leaving with

    "bring a bike pump.... your life may depend on it!"

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    1. Re:Hrmm by CdBee · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What good is a bike pump in a vacuum?

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    2. Re:Hrmm by turgid · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe they could recycle digestive and other waste gasses to top-up the supply to keep the structure inflated.

  4. Gideon Bibles by Kymermosst · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hotels do not place bibles in the rooms, the Gideons do.

    So you'd have to wait for them to visit the place and put some bibles there first.

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    1. Re:Gideon Bibles by WoodenRobot · · Score: 4, Funny
      Obligatory Bill Hicks quote:

      "Who are the f**king Gideons? Ever met one? No. Ever seen one? No. What are they? Ninjas? Where are they from? Gidea?"

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  5. X-Prize == sub-orbital by jeroen94704 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The x-prize is for a sub-orbital shot only. So they won't need a place to stay for a while yet.

    Of course, once the proposed yearly x-prize competitions get going (races for height, shortest turnaround etc), it may only be a few years before a private party is able to launch people into actual orbit. Then it will be cool if someone has an of-the-shelf inflatable habitat ready for use.

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    1. Re:X-Prize == sub-orbital by delong · · Score: 4, Interesting

      it may only be a few years before a private party is able to launch people into actual orbit.

      Someone is already working on it.

  6. Re:I wonder how many stars this hotel is gonna be. by twr21 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Space debris could be very catastrophic, but the chances of being hit by it are still miniscule (compared to say a launch failure or being killed on the way to the launch pad).

  7. Re:Living in a bubble by MBAFK · · Score: 4, Informative

    The NASA Transhab design uses "multiple layers, which consist of Mylar, Kevlar, Nextel and foam rubber, provide better protection from micrometeorites than a metal shell."

    Source

    There is quite a bit of info out there about the Transhabs, NASA are taking this quite seriously.

  8. Forget space stations by dysprosia · · Score: 5, Funny

    Truly, we need space inflatable jumping castles. Inflatable space stations? Bah!

  9. Re:I wonder how many stars this hotel is gonna be. by Firethorn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just because it's "inflatable" doesn't mean that it can't take a hit. You're not talking about a penny rubber ballon here. Even a rigid structure doesn't take hits well at the velocities encountered in space. And you'd actually have less chance of a breach with low impact collisions with a non-rigid structure. And the 2000 number awfully low, I think that's the activly tracked stuff.

    By not having to send up a rigid structure, you can save on weight and space, resulting in considerable savings, as you can send up a larger structure with less assembly in space required.

    Besides, by the time you inflate one of these to 1 atmosphere, the pressure difference between that and outside you'll have a very rigid structure. From looking at the articles, parts of the structure are rigid, providing points for preset 'utilities'. The expandable portions would be to provide space.

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  10. Yeah, by King_of_Prussia · · Score: 5, Funny

    but the lack of gravity might put a slight damper on your plans there.

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  11. still a long way to go by brucehoult · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While the X-Prize is a great thing -- and I'm personally crossing the Pacific this weekend to watch SS1's flight on Monday -- the current and upcoming generation of private spacecraft are still a very long way from being able to visit an orbiting hotel.

    The good news though is that some companies do have a business plan for how to get from here to there in incremental, low risk, steps, and while making a profit along the way. XCOR, for example, has such a plan, financing later development with suborbital tourist flights and a few small satellite launches and sounding rocket replacement flights.

    Scaled Composites may well have such a plan, though they haven't said yet what it is. But a story in today's Dominion Post (Wellington, NZ) originally from the Washington Post) (free registration required) quotes Burt Rutan as saying that suborbital flights are likely to start at US$30k - US$50k and drop to US$8k - US$12k in a second generation vehicle. That's a) a lot lower than the US$98k Space Adventures is planning to sell XCORs initial flights for, and b) indication that Scaled do in fact have an ongoing plan (d'oh).

  12. Re:I wonder how many stars this hotel is gonna be. by richie2000 · · Score: 5, Funny
    The expandable portions would be to provide space.

    Providing space? That must be like shipping ice to the north pole. ;-P

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  13. Jokes aside by tmortn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Folks there are plenty of jokes about an inflatable structure but they need not be so fragile as one might think. After all bullet proof vests are largely kevlar.

    Transhab had to deal with the problem of micrometerite impacts same as any manned space structure. Not to mention once you deal with much besides a micrometeorite it dosn't matter what the building material is.

    On the positive side this could be a serious boost to private space ventures. This guy wants a 3/4 hab up next year ? Falcon V can boost 4000kg+ to Stations orbit for 12 million if all goes well.

    http://www.spacex.com/index.html?section=falcon& co ntent=http%3A//www.spacex.com/falcon_overview.php

    If they make this work then in short order they could have a station with more inhabitable volume than ISS for a fraction of the cost.

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    1. Re:Jokes aside by aallan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If they make this work then in short order they could have a station with more inhabitable volume than ISS for a fraction of the cost.

      That's great, but how are you going to get people to your new station?

      To put people into space you have to send them up on a man rated launcher. The only people with those right now are NASA, RKA (Russia) and CNSA (China). There are no private launchers capable of putting people into orbit and won't be for a considerable amount of time.

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    2. Re:Jokes aside by savuporo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "To put people into space you have to send them up on a man rated launcher. The only people with those right now are NASA, "

      You may or may not have been noticed, but NASA does not have the capability of putting humans on orbit in 2004. Its doubtful that they will have this capability in 2005.

      Even worse, US government organizations, like NASA, are not allowed to purchase a seat for their astronauts on Soyuz, and i doubt that Shenzou seats are for sale at the moment.

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    3. Re:Jokes aside by Smallpond · · Score: 4, Funny

      Really, all jokes aside.

      I hate to burst your bubble, but I think you're full of hot air. Costs will balloon, profits will float away, and resources will be stretched too tight. Greenspan is predicting renewed inflation, which will cause investors to gasp for breath. I expect this project to be strung along until it hits a snag, then its finished.

  14. Embarassing... by xsupergr0verx · · Score: 4, Funny

    I saw the headline "Hotel Tycoon Pushes Inflatable Space Stations" and thought it was about a video game (Railroad Tycoon-esque) with hotels where you could build inflatable space hotels too.

    Disappointment runs rampant!

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  15. it could work... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Never underestimate the power of gas filled bags. The Mars rovers even use them!

    Space, for the most part is an empty environment. Once in space, the aerodynamics of the craft don't matter much. We have very strong synthetic fibers, make huge kevlar-like inflated bubbles. Big enough to dissipate the energy, or deflect the object. Use honeycomb like layers, and it could probably be made from replaceable pieces, in the (I'm thinking, unlikely) event of a puncture.

    It would have to be assembled in space, and even large enough to encompase the craft to get to, and for use on the planet surface.

    If your going to go anywhere REALLY far away....wear a bubble!

  16. X prize winners don't go into orbit by Nick+Barnes · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'm sure after someone wins the X Prize they'll need someplace to stay the night.

    After someone wins the X prize they will be back on the ground very soon, because the X prize is just for 100km altitude, not entering orbit. Entering orbit is very much harder (8 km/s delta-V instead of about 1 km/s). I dare say there will be follow-on competitions (such as the X Prize Cup) but it'll be quite a while before a privately-developed launcher makes it to orbit.

  17. In related news... by Anonymous+Writer · · Score: 5, Funny

    NASA has decided that astronaut food rations will now include a large supply of beans.

  18. Re:Living in a bubble by MBAFK · · Score: 4, Informative

    My understanding is that the modules have a metal docking collar at one end as shown in these two pictures:

    Pic 1
    Pic 2

  19. First my girlfriend.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...now this! This whole inflatable tech is really taking off!

  20. Contract with the Gideon Bible by adzoox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "I wonder if each inflatable station module won't come with complimentary bibles."

    Actually hotels sign contracts for the Gideon Bible. I would imagine Budget Suites/Bigelow Properties is under this contract.

    The author of the slashdot post may not enjoy reading the Bible, the editor that didn't remove the blatant phishing comment may not enjoy reading the Bible, but there are those of us who do read. Even if it is for diversity rather than spiriutual growth.

    I mean honestly, you are either going to have to take some reading material or a gameboy - you're not going to be able to go out on the beach for a stroll or to get a picture with Mickey.

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    1. Re:Contract with the Gideon Bible by 0123456 · · Score: 4, Funny

      "there are those of us who do read. Even if it is for diversity rather than spiriutual growth"

      I read the Bible for the sex and violence, myself.

  21. One word: by unorthod0x · · Score: 4, Funny

    POP!

  22. Re:I wonder how many stars this hotel is gonna be. by wickedj · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Well, a 5 star hotel is considered the cream of the crop but what about a hotel full of stars?" In other news, Motel 6 has changed their slogan from "We'll leave the light on for you." to "My God, it's full of stars!"

  23. Re:I wonder how many stars this hotel is gonna be. by jcr · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Space debris could be very catastrophic,

    Well, put it this way: a pressurized metal container can shatter if you hit it with enough force. An inflated structure would most likely take a pair of small punctures.

    Of course, wither way you don't want to be in the way of that micrometeoroid while it's shooting through your space station, but if you're in a metal can, it might be coming at you with additional shrapnel that you've provided.

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  24. Bigelow = genius by J05H · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Mr. Bigelow is brilliant. Maybe not as an aerospace engineer (he pays others for that), but as a man of vision and implimentation. Bigelow Aerospace has been working quietly for several years now, and it looks like they are finally ready to roll out some product. The Genesis pathfinder looks to be a very interesting testbed.

    I've been looking over the Bigelow patents on USPTO site. Check out "inflatable satelite", "...thermal management" and "spacecraft sleeping berth" for some of the things they have been working on. The most revolutionary item so far seems to be building an inflatable Transhab-type module, but putting the solid core to the edge of the inflated cylinder. The core has two sets of fold-out floor panels that form two floors, plus the core has a vac-safe section. If there is a puncture, the crew can seal it up and evacuate into another section of their station.

    Bigelow on USPTO.gov

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  25. Space stations from balloons not a bad idea by Rei · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Really, it's not such a bad idea. If they can stop micrometeorites as well as a metal frame, that's what really matters. I can't see a good reason why rigidity should be important across the whole station - only at key points, such as docking ports, and perhaps a hollow frame to mount inflatable modules on.

    There's another real advantage to this method that hasn't been mentioned yet: radiation shielding. If you build your station out of plastic instead of aluminum, you'll get far better radiation shielding (it's the hydrogen atoms that do the best job!). Furthermore, aluminum is a kind of nasty metal to use in extreme circumstances because as it warps, it stiffens and eventually will break (metal fatigue). I don't know the sort of stresses that a station is subject to, but I'd imagine that at least the day/night temperature changes provide some stress.

    Now they just need to get Dr. Schlock involved... he'll know what to do. :)

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  26. DEMRON by zentinal · · Score: 4, Informative

    I believe that you're referring to RST's (Radiation Shield Technology) product Demron. It is not a film, it is a fabric, not quite the film that you referred to, but the closest I could find.