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Spokane Gets Unwired

prostoalex writes "Spokane International Airport is getting wireless connectivity just before the city will expand WiFi coverage to 100 blocks in Spokane downtown. It will be the largest urban Wi-Fi zone in the United States, said Bob Conley, a founder of Vivato, the company that made the antennas for both installations. Vivato's press release mentions the service will be useful not only to casual downloaders. The downtown 'Hot Zone' will improve city services by facilitating intelligent policing, quicker fire and rescue response, and will support e-government initiatives and a more productive mobile workforce."

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  1. w00t by sxtxixtxcxh · · Score: 0, Interesting

    i live in spokane..:D

    i've been waiting for it to get it's recognition for being so... wired... and now unwired.

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  2. Re:Awesome! by sxtxixtxcxh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    indeed! that's what i'm waiting for ;)

    in the news yesterday, they mentioned the engineers setting up the wifi antennae attracted the attention of the secret service.

    i guess sitting around on the street with a laptop is suspect.

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  3. Quality? by nial-in-a-box · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I still have yet to hear about how reliable this stuff actually is. Putting an AP at every intersection simply isn't good enough. I'm not saying that's what they are doing, but if it is than it's basically pointless. To deliver speeds of greater than 1Mbps for all users there would need to be essentially thousands of access points to handle this, seeing as the signal strength issues lie mainly on the client side. Policing (at any level) via WiFi sounds like a recipe for disaster.

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    1. Re:Quality? by mcrbids · · Score: 2, Interesting

      To deliver speeds of greater than 1Mbps for all users there would need to be essentially thousands of access points to handle this, seeing as the signal strength issues lie mainly on the client side.

      Do you have any idea how FEW people would need anything aywhere NEAR a Mb of bandwidth?

      I'm a fairly heavy user - MRTG reports my monthly usage on my 1.5 Mbit DSL line as ~ 50 GB or so of traffic per month, on an internal, home network of 7 computer systems.

      (whip out calculator)

      50 GB of transfer /month
      8 bits per byte,
      400 Gb of transfer in a month.
      30 days in a month(13,333,333,333 bits/day)
      24 hours in a day, (555,555,555 bits/hour)
      60 minutes per hour (9,259,259 bits/minute)
      60 seconds per minute, (154,320 bits/second)

      So, what we're really talking about here, is average usage almost 10 times what I, a fairly heavy Internet user consume.

      In theory, a single 11 Mbps access point could provide the bandwith to supply all 7 computers in my house, 71 times over!

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  4. Re:Double-edged sword -- mad cell phone disease by rawdirt · · Score: 2, Interesting
    the wi-fi and the cell system both collapse when power disappears for a couple of days.

    at least at&t maintained the batteries for rotary dial!

  5. Airport connectivity by Kludge · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I was in the Quad Cities "International" Airport yesterday, and HEY! free wireless internet. Score! But then in Detroit it was $7 to hook up. :P

    Then I thought, there should be some user maintained web page that summarizes what kind of networking airports have available. I couldn't find such a thing on google. Any hints?

  6. I'm in Spokane. by Darth+Muffin · · Score: 3, Interesting
    They mentioned this on the news earlier this week, said that downtown was already wired. So my wife and I went war driving downtown.


    Out of 4 random intersections downtown (well within the listed coverage area), 3 had no signal and the 4th was so weak it kept coming and going.



    I suppose you get what you pay for...

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  7. This is how we do it.... by rmarll · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Airport officials aren't sure how many people will sign up to use the service, but the system is equipped to handle hundreds of simultaneous users.

    The service is free until July 16, after which it will cost $6.95 a day.

    The airport spent no money to install the service, and will net at least $60,000 a year after Airport Network Solutions takes its cut.


    Oh and by the way, the federal government coughed up a cool million to finance this venture.

    For those of you who are unfamilar with Spokane we do math a little differently around here. The parking garage downtown for instance. Paid for by the city, for the Cowley family who own the River Park Square mall (and the local papaer) can only break even when it is near 100% capacity year round.

    No, it has never even come close to breaking even.

    1. Re:This is how we do it.... by gcaseye6677 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you think that's bad, check out Chicago's Soldier Field expansion. When all the cost overruns were calculated, taxpayers spent nearly a billion dollars for a stadium to benefit one private corporation, the forever-losing Chicago Bears. People here are completely immune to the effects of corruption, or so it seems. There was public outrage, but no officials lost their jobs over it.

  8. Great tourist idea by Stalke · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This would make a great tourist / sightseeing / shopping platform for many small towns or urban areas in general. You know those things they hand out at museums. What if something like that could be targetted so that someone would walk around a whole city and through gps they would be able to not only find out the history, but also (convinently) that the shops they were passing on the way to another historic spot were "the same place that so-body was caught doing to you know what". You don't always need a gui for this stuff. How much would a gps + cpu + speaker cost anyways?

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  9. Parking meter usage.... by yokem_55 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder if the Spo-compton parking meter nazis will use this. I wouldn't be surprised as when I was living there attending Gonzaga, they had an incredible and uncanny ability to pounce on an expired meter literally withing 60 seconds of expiration. They probably could cut that time down to a quarter of that if each meter had a wifi device and a simple program to broadcast when a meter has expired.....

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  10. Congratulations, idiots by ajp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Airports shouldn't be selling internet access. While $6.95 isn't a heady chunk of change in my budget it's not something I'm gonna pay when I need to save my batteries for that 4-hour cross country. And finding an open, accessible power socket in an airport is like finding a Krispy Kreme in the Friday bagel basket.

    Why do I want net access in an airport? To check flight times when I'm picking someone up. To check e-mail for a few minutes, maybe. But seven bucks for a 45-minute layover? Give me a break.

    If, say, Topeka International had free, casual wireless access and Fargo International didn't I'd be more likely to book my flights through Topeka. What would Topeka get? My landing fees (which is their core business.) My undying dedication to FooBar Air, who uses--and is more likely to maintain--Topeka as their hub. And happy passengers.

    IBM gives away an OS because they want to sell hardware and consulting services. Stick to your core business. Giving away wifi is inexpensive and high-profile.

  11. Re:Ehhh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Spokane International Airport was fine BEING wired.

    What a waste, nearly every waiting area had these desks with cat5 outlets near them that you could plug in to.

    I'd rather plug in with a 30 ft wired cat5 then have connectivity issues and dropping signals every 30 seconds.

    I like my "wire" thank you very much.

    Jump off the damn WIFI bandwagon, WIFI sucks and isn't as reliable as wires.